I can't imagine a deal for Terry right now. He's one of the hottest players in the game right now and his efficiency is unsustainable. Ducks would be silly not to try maximize value. As mentioned by khawk, he's playing significant time with an established centre in Getzlaf rather than playing centre himself. However, even if he plays on the wing, it's a step up from what the Sens have after Batherson.

Sens are between a rock and a hard place. Everyone and their sister knows this club didn't have a complete NHL roster when the season opened and it's even more true now with injuries and COVID cases. You can smell the desperation from a mile away. There are some really impressive pieces on this team but Dorion has not been able to insulate them effectively. Other rebuilding/retooling teams like the Ducks, Wings, and Kings have been able to have a good running start this year but the Sens have not. Declaring a rebuild as 'over' was premature.

KHAWK - why don't you go cheer for another team? You hate the owner, you hate the GM, you hate the coach, the 2021 draft is giving your mental health a going over...

Seriously. Just go somewhere else.

That goes for all of you complainers. Go cheer for Tampa.
- HoweHatrick

I don't hate anything, and I'm not exclusively negative - I just have a relatively good understanding of the difference between the team making good decisions, and the team making bad decisions. For instance, when Kevin's blog cites Scott Wheeler referring to the recent draft as an "unmitigated disaster" that "looks worse today than it did on draft day", at some point you might want to consider the possibility that it wasn't a good draft, instead of accusing people who've already come to that conclusion of being complainers. See, this is a discussion forum to share thoughts on the major topics and issues affecting the team, not a place for snowflake fanboys who can't bear to read a critical opinion... or worse yet, bother to form one of their own.

and khawk has pretty much been spot on with all of his "complaining".


Kevin I was wondering if they (the team) got a bad batch of tests? What are the symptoms like for the tenacious ten? If they're all asymptomatic......

I don't hate anything, and I'm not exclusively negative - I just have a relatively good understanding of the difference between the team making good decisions, and the team making bad decisions. For instance, when Kevin's blog cites Scott Wheeler referring to the recent draft as an "unmitigated disaster" that "looks worse today than it did on draft day", at some point you might want to consider the possibility that it wasn't a good draft, instead of accusing people who've already come to that conclusion of being complainers. See, this is a discussion forum to share thoughts on the major topics and issues affecting the team, not a place for snowflake fanboys who can't bear to read a critical opinion... or worse yet, bother to form one of their own.
- khawk

Well I am glad that you can self recognize as an expert on all things hockey. Good for you.

I wish I could peer into a crystal ball and determine the outcome of a draft and know with certainty how players' careers in the NHL will pan out well before they ever play a game. That would be amazing. You must be a millionaire as well.

I don't hate anything, and I'm not exclusively negative - I just have a relatively good understanding of the difference between the team making good decisions, and the team making bad decisions. For instance, when Kevin's blog cites Scott Wheeler referring to the recent draft as an "unmitigated disaster" that "looks worse today than it did on draft day", at some point you might want to consider the possibility that it wasn't a good draft, instead of accusing people who've already come to that conclusion of being complainers. See, this is a discussion forum to share thoughts on the major topics and issues affecting the team, not a place for snowflake fanboys who can't bear to read a critical opinion... or worse yet, bother to form one of their own.
- khawk

You're one of, if not the best poster on these blogs. Your posts are never without supporting facts and are not entirely negative. It would be naive to not be critical of a teams decisions who are currently in the bottom of the standings.

If fans want to continue to go around the merry-go-round of perpetual mediocrity, so be it. Other fans look a teams that have won championships or are consistently contenders and want that.

Well I am glad that you can self recognize as an expert on all things hockey. Good for you.

I wish I could peer into a crystal ball and determine the outcome of a draft and know with certainty how players' careers in the NHL will pan out well before they ever play a game. That would be amazing. You must be a millionaire as well.
- HoweHatrick

These blogs and comment sections are a great centre for back and forth debate. If you feel last year's draft was strong, rather than condemn someone's point of view that it wasn't great, feel free to post why it was strong?

I'd like to give the 2021 class more time to develop but it's hard to not be skeptical of the at least the Boucher pick when we was such a leap of a pick and a player like Sillinger who was taken after him is playing alright in the NHL.

That said, there was a couple of NCAA guys on twitter say Boucher is playing ok but the puck luck isn't going his way, but he's been positionally sound.

These blogs and comment sections are a great centre for back and forth debate. If you feel last year's draft was strong, rather than condemn someone's point of view that it wasn't great, feel free to post why it was strong?

I'd like to give the 2021 class more time to develop but it's hard to not be skeptical of the at least the Boucher pick when we was such a leap of a pick and a player like Sillinger who was taken after him is playing alright in the NHL.

That said, there was a couple of NCAA guys on twitter say Boucher is playing ok but the puck luck isn't going his way, but he's been positionally sound.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

KHAWK has been crying about that draft for months. It is getting old. Skeptical is fine. Being a broken record and rehashing the same points ad nauseam is worthless outside of traffic on the site. There is nothing to debate until the kids play some hockey.

KHAWK has been crying about that draft for months. It is getting old. Skeptical is fine. Being a broken record and rehashing the same points ad nauseam is worthless outside of traffic on the site. There is nothing to debate until the kids play some hockey.
- HoweHatrick

Everything is up for debate, at all times.
Consider the repeated posts as a form of therapy. It has been a horrible start to the year. The organization has some very obvious blindspots and issues that threaten a real shot at contending for a cup and the outlook for the past draft is questionable.

KHAWK has been crying about that draft for months. It is getting old. Skeptical is fine. Being a broken record and rehashing the same points ad nauseam is worthless outside of traffic on the site. There is nothing to debate until the kids play some hockey.
- HoweHatrick

With a team rebuilding, or done rebuilding as Dorion has suggested, discussing the current crop of prospects seems like an area worthy of discussion.

By your definition, I suppose we cannot get excited about Jake Sanderson's play in the NCAA either?

With a team rebuilding, or done rebuilding as Dorion has suggested, discussing the current crop of prospects seems like an area worthy of discussion.

By your definition, I suppose we cannot get excited about Jake Sanderson's play in the NCAA either?
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

You are allowed positive talk about prospects without needing a crystal ball but if you are negative then you need a crystal ball or be the reincarnation of Nostradamus to do so.

When a team isn't doing well, debating about prospects is one of the few fun things left to talk about. Talking about a teams problems can get boring when those problems are not getting solved year after year and everyone agrees about what those problems are.

Debating the Boucher pick should not be off limits given that it was the 2nd biggest wtf (imo) moment of the first round of that draft. Biggest one being the Habs drafting a player that requested not to be drafted. I guess you can also make a case for the Wings moving up to draft Cossa instead of Wallstedt as a wtf but i wasn't that shocked by it.

I guess we shouldn't be all that shocked by GM's going off the board on this draft. Wasn't it universally panned as being a weak draft outside the top 2 or three guys? If this was a draft to reach or pontificate based on some secret scout mission...then this is what we've got.

Additionally.
Lassi Thompson was practically called a bust AT the draft and for the next 2-3 seasons by most of Ottawa's on-air 1200 know-it-alls.

Looked pretty good the other night.

I guess we shouldn't be all that shocked by GM's going off the board on this draft. Wasn't it universally panned as being a weak draft outside the top 2 or three guys? If this was a draft to reach or pontificate based on some secret scout mission...then this is what we've got.
- Octavarium

True enough, but I think it's valid to criticize why they picked those players - it's like the shade of the 2006 defeat to the Ducks dominates the Sens front office: 'bigger, tough to play against'. This mentality doesn't win games in the modern NHL. It's like everybody thinks they need to draft a Tom Wilson but they forget that on top of being a goon, Wilson can also actually play hockey. I also think that Dorion 'hitting' on Pinto and Batherson in recent years has overinflated his perception of his ability to read the tea leaves and that a 2021-esque draft was inevitably going to come down the pipeline.

The 21 draft will in hindsight be overall for every team a crap shoot outside of the top 3-5. However the shrewd Sens did go way off the charts.
I flip flopped at the time wether to trade the pick and get real assets or keep the pick. Thinking they would not be picking in the top 10 again for awhile. I chose keep. I am a victim of fools gold. Good thing a smarter nhl person is making the proffesional decisions . Dorion is the best gm for this team.

Well I am glad that you can self recognize as an expert on all things hockey. Good for you.

I wish I could peer into a crystal ball and determine the outcome of a draft and know with certainty how players' careers in the NHL will pan out well before they ever play a game. That would be amazing. You must be a millionaire as well.
- HoweHatrick

I love reading rumour sites, prospect reporting, and generally all things linked to the Sens. What turns the switch a bit is this type of personal, smarmy childish post. No need for it and while I'm at it, as I seldom post, let's drop the Covid politics as well
This is best served up as a hockey site. I find the differences in opinion worth the read and those that are better informed and prepared like Khawk Spatso, Gord Wilson, Octavium are worth reading as well as many others.
I learn a bit, enjoy the banter, gather insights and like most of you start planning the Sens parade route in my head. A couple things I've picked up along the way: The Sens will not win the cup this year. Sad but true
The sky is Not falling.
It might be true that Dorion has missed the mark on the draft pick here and there but I thought Alexander Daigle was blue chip,Alfredsson..who's he ?...and Brady T was a reach. Shows what I know.
As a group we are sitting here doing this and are afforded the luxury of armchair critiquing the professionals, who are usually 22yr old kids playing a game chasing a piece of frozen rubber
. Last thing, if you think finding hope is rough in this room, imagine being a leafs fan!

By your definition, I suppose we cannot get excited about Jake Sanderson's play in the NCAA either?
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

I seem to recall a bunch of people displeased with the Sanderson pick. How could he have climbed so high up the charts without playing any games? What was PD thinking?! Now we have a bunch of people loving the player. He could get to the NHL and flop. He could be the best D the Sens have rostered in a few years. No one can predict how he will pan out. Cheer for him? Sure. Have at it.

Same for Lassi Thompson. He was awesome. Then he sucked - he was a wasted pick. Now he is back as a great prospect. Three weeks from now he might suck again. You can never tell who will be a great addition to a team.

Alfredsson was a 133rd 6th rounder who became the team captain for 13 seasons.

Alexandre Daigle was a 1st overall, the next coming and then a bust.

No one can predict how a player will pan out. That includes khawk, Scott Wheeler and Kevin Francis.

If I have to read khawk's negative comments repeatedly dwelling on a player or a draft when there is absolutely no way that can be called until well down the road then s/he can read mine calling them out for being foolish. That only seems fair to me.

All drafts are a crap shoot. The 2021 draft was beyond a crap shoot. Claiming you can tell which way any of these players will go in their careers is simply displaying ignorance. The truth is most of the players drafted are never going to be NHL players. You have a better chance in Vegas than predicting draft success.

I am doing my research and number crunching for betting tonight. I always go through injury reports, etc.
Has anyone on here seen how 2 Vegas players are in covid protocol? They played Ottawa 10 days ago, or so. This lines up with the fact that the league never should have let Ottawa play these games. Lets see what happens when LA, Calgary, Pitt start having positive covid tests in a week. Nice job Gary Bettman.

The Ducks are In a rebuild and they have some darn good players! Not so sure Terry would be available, When or If the Sens make a deal It would be In their best Interest to get a solid defender, There offense will be just fine when everyone gets healthy, Not sure If DJ gets Ottawa to the next level.

I don't hate anything, and I'm not exclusively negative - I just have a relatively good understanding of the difference between the team making good decisions, and the team making bad decisions. For instance, when Kevin's blog cites Scott Wheeler referring to the recent draft as an "unmitigated disaster" that "looks worse today than it did on draft day", at some point you might want to consider the possibility that it wasn't a good draft, instead of accusing people who've already come to that conclusion of being complainers. See, this is a discussion forum to share thoughts on the major topics and issues affecting the team, not a place for snowflake fanboys who can't bear to read a critical opinion... or worse yet, bother to form one of their own.
- khawk

You frickin tell him! Testify, brother!

KHAWK has been crying about that draft for months. It is getting old. Skeptical is fine. Being a broken record and rehashing the same points ad nauseam is worthless outside of traffic on the site. There is nothing to debate until the kids play some hockey.
- HoweHatrick

Maybe there’s a blog of happy rainbows and unicorns that would better suit your sensitive nature. Poor thing. I’m so sorry you’ve had to be subjected to Khawk’s brooding negativity. Life must be very hard for you.

Maybe there’s a blog of happy rainbows and unicorns that would better suit your sensitive nature. Poor thing. I’m so sorry you’ve had to be subjected to Khawk’s brooding negativity. Life must be very hard for you.
- PavohnDatsvares

Not so much. I simply like to remind khawk that he is full of it.

How many times do people want to read that he is not happy with the Sens 21 draft? We get it already. He is still pissy on being rejected as the blogger and that Francis got the gig. Can you imagine if he were the blogger? One rant after another on the same tired post. Thankfully that didn't happen.

Not so much. I simply like to remind khawk that he is full of it.

How many times do people want to read that he is not happy with the Sens 21 draft? We get it already. He is still pissy on being rejected as the blogger and that Francis got the gig. Can you imagine if he were the blogger? One rant after another on the same tired post. Thankfully that didn't happen.
- HoweHatrick

In all fairness, I wouldn’t have given him the job either. Lol I wouldn’t have given any of us that job. MAYBE Gord2.0

But seriously now, why do you let him bother you so much? Just skip his comments maybe.

Also; apparently Clifford is a Leaf now. Sports Net is showing he was TRADED to the Leafs from St. Louis for “future considerations.” NOT a waiver claim.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/trade-tracker

In all fairness, I wouldn’t have given him the job either. Lol I wouldn’t have given any of us that job. MAYBE Gord2.0

But seriously now, why do you let him bother you so much? Just skip his comments maybe.
- PavohnDatsvares

It's not so much that he bothers me. It is about khawk the broken record. If he can post about the 2021 Draft being a bust I can point out that he is full of it. Seems fair to me.

In all fairness, I wouldn’t have given him the job either. Lol I wouldn’t have given any of us that job. MAYBE Gord2.0

But seriously now, why do you let him bother you so much? Just skip his comments maybe.
- PavohnDatsvares

I'm honoured for the callout.

I think khawk wrote a guest blog that was great.

Kevin has been doing.a bang up job with the blogs. Consistent content and breaking rumours as they happen.The Sens blogs haven't been this vibrant since the Travis Yost days.

To many more debates ahead!