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mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Nov 18 @ 7:39 AM ET
i like hurts but the team is outperforming my expectations right now
- 2Real


Really? Not competing against good teams and beating up on terrible teams? That was your expectation?

I like Hurts. I do not think he takes this team to a Super Bowl. He is not a good enough passer.

The Eagles are setup to stand pat going into next year. No doubt they will win some games down the stretch and possibly make thee playoffs. That is the wrong move.


PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Nov 18 @ 7:45 AM ET
Really? Not competing against good teams and beating up on terrible teams? That was your expectation?

I like Hurts. I do not think he takes this team to a Super Bowl. He is not a good enough passer.

The Eagles are setup to stand pat going into next year. No doubt they will win some games down the stretch and possibly make thee playoffs. That is the wrong move.

- mickel25


What would you have them do? Be specific...
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Nov 18 @ 7:48 AM ET
What would you have them do? Be specific...
- PT21


Be good enough to beat the good teams? Seems like the ideal scenario right?
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Nov 18 @ 7:56 AM ET
Be good enough to beat the good teams? Seems like the ideal scenario right?
- mickel25


Thats not very specific. That's like saying: what they need to do is win the Supe...😂


It boils down to draft and develop or trade. I thought you were in the former camp...
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Nov 18 @ 8:00 AM ET
Thats not very specific. That's like saying: what they need to do is win the Supe...😂


It boils down to draft and develop or trade. I thought you were in the former camp...

- PT21


I am. Roseman is not very good at drafting players. Specifically WR's. DeVonta Smith not included.

So specifically. I would go back three years in time and fire Roseman.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Nov 18 @ 8:06 AM ET
Oh Great! Now we've turned into Eagles talk!! As if those loser talk radio stations don't beat Eagles talk to death enough for us! If it's not borearsye politics it's the Eagles. Snooze! Luckiest SB win in the history of the NFL. Totally average QB has the game of his life at the right time.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 18 @ 8:08 AM ET
Morning Flyers fans, what's on the breakfast menu today?
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Nov 18 @ 8:10 AM ET
I am. Roseman is not very good at drafting players. Specifically WR's. DeVonta Smith not included.

So specifically. I would go back three years in time and fire Roseman.

- mickel25


Well. He has had many, many misses. Hard to argue. But a lot of good players after the first: Sanders, Goedert, Mailata, Josh Sweat.

You don't say: we are awful in drafting so we will trade away our picks.

Remember: they are rebuilding, after all.

My concern is that they and Colts and Dolphins keep winning.

hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 18 @ 8:19 AM ET
https://twitter.com/billm...5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

Call them both up and have a 4t line of Willman-Frost-Zac. Speed skill and grit. Much rather see it than the slop they continue to roll out. Will never happen with this archaic coaching staff.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Nov 18 @ 8:24 AM ET
Well. He has had many, many misses. Hard to argue. But a lot of good players after the first: Sanders, Goedert, Mailata, Josh Sweat.

You don't say: we are awful in drafting so we will trade away our picks.

Remember: they are rebuilding, after all.

My concern is that they and Colts and Dolphins keep winning.

- PT21


I would fire Roseman and keep the picks. Use the picks to get younger on defense and on the O-Line. Not sure there is a stud QB in this draft. Colts and Eagles are going to win more games. Dolphins defense is really good. Not sure how they are as bad as they are record wise. So probably three picks in the 8-16 range for the Eagles. I am fine with that.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Nov 18 @ 8:25 AM ET
Oh Great! Now we've turned into Eagles talk!! As if those loser talk radio stations don't beat Eagles talk to death enough for us! If it's not borearsye politics it's the Eagles. Snooze! Luckiest SB win in the history of the NFL. Totally average QB has the game of his life at the right time.
- Phillywhiteout


To be fair he had two games of his life.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 18 @ 8:37 AM ET
https://twitter.com/billmeltzer/status/1461137505957392392?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1461137505957392392%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

Call them both up and have a 4t line of Willman-Frost-Zac. Speed skill and grit. Much rather see it than the slop they continue to roll out. Will never happen with this archaic coaching staff.

- hello it's me 2050

This
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Nov 18 @ 8:43 AM ET
https://twitter.com/billmeltzer/status/1461137505957392392?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1461137505957392392%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

Call them both up and have a 4t line of Willman-Frost-Zac. Speed skill and grit. Much rather see it than the slop they continue to roll out. Will never happen with this archaic coaching staff.

- hello it's me 2050
I liked Willman during a couple of those preseason games. I noticed his speed and the Flyers could certainly use all that they can get with this forward group. I actually noticed him more than Frost in those games.
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Nov 18 @ 8:44 AM ET
Oh Great! Now we've turned into Eagles talk!! As if those loser talk radio stations don't beat Eagles talk to death enough for us! If it's not borearsye politics it's the Eagles. Snooze! Luckiest SB win in the history of the NFL. Totally average QB has the game of his life at the right time.
- Phillywhiteout

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 18 @ 8:45 AM ET
This
- ClaudeFather


No, don't call up Frost yet. Willman wasn't anything special. Play Brassard at center on the 4th line.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
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Nov 18 @ 8:49 AM ET
No, don't call up Frost yet. Willman wasn't anything special. Play Brassard at center on the 4th line.
- MJL

yes call them both up. Willman not anything special (whopping 2 game sample size)l, please describe nate and brown.

When you put a skill guy like willman, who also has speed, how do you think he will perform with 2 slugs on his line? Keep playing no upside bums like nate and brown. That strategy has worked wonders for the flyers the last ..

Either way Frost will add much needed skill and talent. Oh my bad they may ruin him if they put him in a role he isnt ready for....
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 18 @ 9:29 AM ET
No, don't call up Frost yet. Willman wasn't anything special. Play Brassard at center on the 4th line.
- MJL

I’m not in favor of playing Frost on fourth line but I’d like to call both those guys up. Maybe too early but he’s played well. Let’s get some speed in this lineup and get the fourth line a chance to score a goal. Brass willman and Mac would be a good one
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 18 @ 9:37 AM ET
I’m not in favor of playing Frost on fourth line but I’d like to call both those guys up. Maybe too early but he’s played well. Let’s get some speed in this lineup and get the fourth line a chance to score a goal. Brass willman and Mac would be a good one
- ClaudeFather

The upside of frost and willman is much greater than the 2 slugs. Both been playing the pk. Maybe just maybe they can help in that dept. as well. Nah keep rolling what "works".
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Nov 18 @ 9:39 AM ET
Oh Great! Now we've turned into Eagles talk!! As if those loser talk radio stations don't beat Eagles talk to death enough for us! If it's not borearsye politics it's the Eagles. Snooze! Luckiest SB win in the history of the NFL. Totally average QB has the game of his life at the right time.
- Phillywhiteout



In fairness to those loser talk radio stations, they also beat the Ben Simmons situation to death too.


Hell would be to have headphones surgically attached to your ears for all eternity listening to that stuff.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Nov 18 @ 9:46 AM ET
In fairness to those loser talk radio stations, they also beat the Ben Simmons situation to death too.


Hell would be to have headphones surgically attached to your ears for all eternity listening to that stuff.

- hockeylover
The Ben Simmons stuff is even worse cause it's literally the same ole drivel day after day about some fruitcake that wants to be paid to do nothing. Where have we heard that before? I took WIP off my presets years ago and recently took 97.5 and that snowflake Mikey miss off my presets too.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Nov 18 @ 10:09 AM ET
first losing streak, as long as Frost stays consistent, he will be called up
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 18 @ 10:23 AM ET
I liked Willman during a couple of those preseason games. I noticed his speed and the Flyers could certainly use all that they can get with this forward group. I actually noticed him more than Frost in those games.
- Phillywhiteout


Sorry, but last thing this team needs is more skill and speed.

I hope CF gets us some more replacement-level grinders.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Nov 18 @ 11:01 AM ET
Just a couple of years ago, I heard the story that Flyers D was set for years. What used to be a weakness for the club (home grown solid D) was now a future strength.

Between Provorov, Ghost, Myers, Sanheim and Morin, the the pool to draw the front 4 were largely set. Between Alt, Friedman and Hagg, and someone from above, so was the pool for the bottom pairing.

Leafs would "kill to have the young D we have", someone here was fond of saying. Multiple people pooh-poohed a Nylander for Sanheim trade.

Fast forward to today. 4 of our 6 are veteran D signed from outside. One of the remaining two is an above average #1 but not considered top tier. One is a below average 2nd pairing guy.

In the meantime, for two post-seasons in a row, Nylander has been the best Leafs forward, averaging ppg in the post-season. He is also averaging ppg in the regular season as well.

So, wise men of HB, wtf happened?
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Nov 18 @ 11:04 AM ET
I would fire Roseman and keep the picks. Use the picks to get younger on defense and on the O-Line. Not sure there is a stud QB in this draft. Colts and Eagles are going to win more games. Dolphins defense is really good. Not sure how they are as bad as they are record wise. So probably three picks in the 8-16 range for the Eagles. I am fine with that.
- mickel25



The odds of this happening are the same odds as Risto not being re-signed. Negligible to non-existent.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 18 @ 11:12 AM ET
Just a couple of years ago, I heard the story that Flyers D was set for years. What used to be a weakness for the club (home grown solid D) was now a future strength.

Between Provorov, Ghost, Myers, Sanheim and Morin, the the pool to draw the front 4 were largely set. Between Alt, Friedman and Hagg, and someone from above, so was the pool for the bottom pairing.

Leafs would "kill to have the young D we have", someone here was fond of saying. Multiple people pooh-poohed a Nylander for Sanheim trade.

Fast forward to today. 4 of our 6 are veteran D signed from outside. One of the remaining two is an above average #1 but not considered top tier. One is a below average 2nd pairing guy.

In the meantime, for two post-seasons in a row, Nylander has been the best Leafs forward, averaging ppg in the post-season. He is also averaging ppg in the regular season as well.

So, wise men of HB, wtf happened?

- PT21


that being said look at the future D " core"......wylie st ivany millman Attard Andrea ginning hogberg....

I dare you to find a brtter group elsewhere.
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