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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 17 @ 1:55 PM ET
Let me guess they are still living in the past by honoring former players? You mean like every other organization ever, anywhere does?
- mickel25


His basic premise is that the organization disrespected past players by not waiting until 7 to hold the ceremony when there would be more fans in the stands.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Nov 17 @ 1:55 PM ET
Let me guess they are still living in the past by honoring former players? You mean like every other organization ever, anywhere does?
- mickel25


Opposite - they didn't schedule the HoF event at a time when more fans would be there
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Nov 17 @ 1:59 PM ET
Opposite - they didn't schedule the HoF event at a time when more fans would be there
- Scoob


I would rather them do the ceremonies on the weekend games. Does give time for more folks to get in the stands. However, I do not think the Flyers disrespected anyone last night.
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Nov 17 @ 2:03 PM ET
Opposite - they didn't schedule the HoF event at a time when more fans would be there
- Scoob


Yeah...or do it the first or last game of the year.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 17 @ 2:04 PM ET
His stance on that is really preposterous. I think it's pretty clear based on this and previous work that he has a bug up his ass.
- MJL

that may feel kind of good
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Nov 17 @ 2:17 PM ET
Oh look, the office clown is back and once again the discussion is over his head. Maybe you should try to learn to read, so then you can read a book on the difference between team stats and advanced metrics ...
- jd250

Ill stick with what I know I know over what you think you know
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Nov 17 @ 2:30 PM ET
https://www.crossingbroad.com/2021/11/a-big-night-that-should-have-been-bigger-thoughts-after-flyers-2-flames-1-ot.html
- Lawless18

He's not wrong. I was disgusted when they showed the crowd during Tocchet's speech....it was empty. Tocchet and Holmgren deserved better.

and, again, to the JO's complaining on the board last night about the ceremony pushing back the start time , (frank) YOU
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 17 @ 2:52 PM ET
He's not wrong. I was disgusted when they showed the crowd during Tocchet's speech....it was empty. Tocchet and Holmgren deserved better.

and, again, to the JO's complaining on the board last night about the ceremony pushing back the start time , (frank) YOU

- THE BLACK HAND

Why not just have the ceremony at 7 and the game time at 7:45, or whatever it needs to be. Listing the game at 7 and having a ceremony then is asinine. Do they have to trick people for them to attend the ceremony?
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Nov 17 @ 3:01 PM ET
https://www.crossingbroad.com/2021/11/a-big-night-that-should-have-been-bigger-thoughts-after-flyers-2-flames-1-ot.html
- Lawless18


Their marketing has been atrocious for years. I can't stand Gritty. I agree about making it about the players.

As for the bathroom commercial, I just roll my eyes.

Hey but at least at intermission I get to find out what my betting odds are after 20 minutes of hockey.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 17 @ 3:07 PM ET
Why not just have the ceremony at 7 and the game time at 7:45, or whatever it needs to be. Listing the game at 7 and having a ceremony then is asinine. Do they have to trick people for them to attend the ceremony?
- ClaudeFather


Game time was pretty much at 7:45. Have to remember that the players need to warm up before the game.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 17 @ 3:24 PM ET
Game time was pretty much at 7:45. Have to remember that the players need to warm up before the game.
- MJL

Yes but the game is listed at 7.
Boyer83
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ft Worth, TX
Joined: 12.16.2011

Nov 17 @ 3:26 PM ET
The Flyers continue to be a good 3rd period team. I really want to see if some different line combinations can solve some of their issues.

Farabee/Couturier/JVR
Giroux/Hayes/Atkinson
Lindblom/Laughton/Konency
Brassard/Thompson/McEwen

- MJL


I like those lines
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 17 @ 3:28 PM ET
I like those lines
- Boyer83

I’m pretty sure in the past Giroux and Hayes did not play well together
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 17 @ 4:03 PM ET
Yes but the game is listed at 7.
- ClaudeFather



Yes, so if they listed the game to start at 7:45, would that have meant more fans in the stands or less at 6:30 when they started the ceremony?
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Nov 17 @ 4:20 PM ET
Yes, so if they listed the game to start at 7:45, would that have meant more fans in the stands or less at 6:30 when they started the ceremony?
- MJL


Point being that the game start time should've been listed appropriately for the events taking place prior to the game.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 17 @ 4:23 PM ET
Point being that the game start time should've been listed appropriately for the events taking place prior to the game.
- Scoob


The context of the conversation is that when they held the ceremony, there weren't many fans in the stands at 6:30 PM. If they had listed the actual game time at 7:45, there would've been even less fans in the stands at 6:30PM.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 17 @ 4:28 PM ET
The context of the conversation is that when they held the ceremony, there weren't many fans in the stands at 6:30 PM. If they had listed the actual game time at 7:45, there would've been even less fans in the stands at 6:30PM.
- MJL

My point was that they should be transparent with the game time, if people want to go to the ceremony they can choose to. I’m talking about me sitting at home having no idea when this game is starting. You’re essentially saying they need to trick people to go to the ceremony lol
Joe Nardone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Medicine Hat
Joined: 07.05.2018

Nov 17 @ 4:39 PM ET
Looks like the National Media agrees Risto is playing well…

/

The Flyers beat the Calgary Flames on Tuesday in exactly the type of game that they envisioned in their mission to get “harder to play against” this offseason. Ristolainen finished the night with nine hits, three blocked shots, and an assist. His agile play at the blue line to stop a clearing attempt set up a second-period goal by Kevin Hayes that tied the game. However, his contributions went well beyond that.

Matthew Tkachuk and the Flames took liberties during the first period, especially in goaltender Carter Hart’s crease. Ristolainen led the charge to stifle the pesky agitator and his teammates in the defensive zone for the remainder of the game. He even kept Tkachuk from trying a flashy, lacrosse-style move from behind the Flyers net in the third period. When asked about his defensemen stepping up to protect the crease, Hart praised them.

Ristolainen played a similar role against an intimidating Washington Capitals team on Nov. 6. His reverse hit on feared tough guy Tom Wilson as the second-period horn sounded set a physical tone for a tight-checking third period and a Philadelphia victory. Flyers color commentator Keith Jones pointed out that Ristolainen is “starting to get more comfortable in a Flyers uniform” as a guest on the Jeff Marek Show last week. He emphasized the need for the 6-foot-4 defenseman’s toughness in matching up with bigger, stronger teams when Marek mentioned the “old school” style of the Metropolitan Division.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 17 @ 4:40 PM ET
My point was that they should be transparent with the game time, if people want to go to the ceremony they can choose to. I’m talking about me sitting at home having no idea when this game is starting. You’re essentially saying they need to trick people to go to the ceremony lol
- ClaudeFather


I don't know if I would call it tricking people but yeah, they wanted fans in the seats.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 17 @ 4:42 PM ET
Looks like the National Media agrees Risto is playing well…

/

The Flyers beat the Calgary Flames on Tuesday in exactly the type of game that they envisioned in their mission to get “harder to play against” this offseason. Ristolainen finished the night with nine hits, three blocked shots, and an assist. His agile play at the blue line to stop a clearing attempt set up a second-period goal by Kevin Hayes that tied the game. However, his contributions went well beyond that.

Matthew Tkachuk and the Flames took liberties during the first period, especially in goaltender Carter Hart’s crease. Ristolainen led the charge to stifle the pesky agitator and his teammates in the defensive zone for the remainder of the game. He even kept Tkachuk from trying a flashy, lacrosse-style move from behind the Flyers net in the third period. When asked about his defensemen stepping up to protect the crease, Hart praised them.

Ristolainen played a similar role against an intimidating Washington Capitals team on Nov. 6. His reverse hit on feared tough guy Tom Wilson as the second-period horn sounded set a physical tone for a tight-checking third period and a Philadelphia victory. Flyers color commentator Keith Jones pointed out that Ristolainen is “starting to get more comfortable in a Flyers uniform” as a guest on the Jeff Marek Show last week. He emphasized the need for the 6-foot-4 defenseman’s toughness in matching up with bigger, stronger teams when Marek mentioned the “old school” style of the Metropolitan Division.

- Joe Nardone


Who do you think are the best defenseman in the Metro division?
Joe Nardone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Medicine Hat
Joined: 07.05.2018

Nov 17 @ 4:44 PM ET
he was good. I will say this. I live out of market but in comcast. I usually have to watch the other teams stream. I can say, the announcers for the other teams bring him up a lot. not that it matters much, but he has been constantly praised by others.

we shall see by the end of the year how he does now that he is out of buffalo and isn't relied on as much.

- Peter Richards


Funny you said that, cause I listen to the away feed a ton while traveling myself and his name always comes up as someone the flyers opponent needs to watch out for.


MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 17 @ 4:48 PM ET
Funny you said that, cause I listen to the away feed a ton while traveling myself and his name always comes up as someone the flyers opponent needs to watch out for.
- Joe Nardone


Remember when the Flyers had Radko Gudas? He was also a player that always came up as someone the Flyers opponent needs to watch out for.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 17 @ 4:59 PM ET
Knowing the way your mind works, I would for now rather have the Qb1, who I suspect is the handsome dude who squats 600 lbs, played for 5 coaches in 6 years, shows tremendous poise and crunch time moxie, and is improving steadily (and hope his weak arm, his inability to read pre-snap coverages, his penchant to lock in on the 1st read, and not be able to throw the slant can be overcome with learning) over Carson Wentz.
- PT21

1 is Hurts
2 is Wentz
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 17 @ 5:00 PM ET
Neither is really good.
- mickel25

one was drafted in the 2nd round
one got us at least a 1st round pick
OldBay
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.11.2020

Nov 17 @ 5:06 PM ET
Looks like the National Media agrees Risto is playing well…



Ristolainen played a similar role against an intimidating Washington Capitals team on Nov. 6. His reverse hit on feared tough guy Tom Wilson as the second-period horn sounded set a physical tone for a tight-checking third period and a Philadelphia victory. Flyers color commentator Keith Jones pointed out that Ristolainen is “starting to get more comfortable in a Flyers uniform” as a guest on the Jeff Marek Show last week. He emphasized the need for the 6-foot-4 defenseman’s toughness in matching up with bigger, stronger teams when Marek mentioned the “old school” style of the Metropolitan Division.

- Joe Nardone


Risto, and the defense in general was very noticeable in the Caps game. I didn't notice the hit, but there was a scrum that got the fans up in front of us. The defense allowed Jones to see the shots clearly for the most part. Good rebound control keeps the net front scrambles down too.
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