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Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Nov 19 @ 9:47 AM ET
Being from Toronto obviously I have a lot of friends that are Leafs fans. Before the game in a group chat, one buddy asks if Alexander Lafreniere Daigle is playing tonight which I responded with, "That's the same question I ask about Matthews and Marner during the playoffs". They didn't like that too much lol
- Rangers99

And Laf was pretty noticeable during the game
Rangers99
New York Rangers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.01.2015

Nov 19 @ 10:01 AM ET
And Laf was pretty noticeable during the game
- airjan23


That 3rd line was their best line last night. Maybe that's why GG didn't move Gauthier up on the 1st line because they were generating a lot of chances. But yea I do agree that Goodrow needs to be dropped from the 1st line.
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Nov 19 @ 10:13 AM ET
And the team was annoyed at the face off disparity, which hopefully means they will continue to work at it. The frustration was pretty palpable, especially on Strome, which should be the case when you are 1 for 12 between the dots
- airjan23


not sure how you fix that without changing personnel in some fashion. doesn't seem like whatever they have been trying with the current centers has been working.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Nov 19 @ 10:46 AM ET
not sure how you fix that without changing personnel in some fashion. doesn't seem like whatever they have been trying with the current centers has been working.
- picklerick



I think it comes down to the right coaching. There's no way they can just keep getting unlucky all these years with players that can't win draws. Whoever they are bringing in for the coaching staff just isn't getting it done. The retired referee was a nice idea but he watched a lot of draws, he didn't take any, at least not at a pro level.
Greschnergy#4
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 12.10.2018

Nov 19 @ 10:53 AM ET
I think it comes down to the right coaching. There's no way they can just keep getting unlucky all these years with players that can't win draws. Whoever they are bringing in for the coaching staff just isn't getting it done. The retired referee was a nice idea but he watched a lot of draws, he didn't take any, at least not at a pro level.
- JRR1285


Call McTavish
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Nov 19 @ 10:55 AM ET
I think it comes down to the right coaching. There's no way they can just keep getting unlucky all these years with players that can't win draws. Whoever they are bringing in for the coaching staff just isn't getting it done. The retired referee was a nice idea but he watched a lot of draws, he didn't take any, at least not at a pro level.
- JRR1285




That seemed like a "we tried everything else now let's think outside of the box" approach
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Nov 19 @ 10:56 AM ET
Call McTavish
- Greschnergy#4



Seriously, get someone on staff that was solid/elite on draws. Preferably someone who has played somewhat recently since there have been some rule tweaks.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Nov 19 @ 10:57 AM ET
That seemed like a "we tried everything else now let's think outside of the box" approach
- picklerick



Can you think of anyone recently on staff that was an ex player that was legitimately good on draws? Because I can't.
Greschnergy#4
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 12.10.2018

Nov 19 @ 10:58 AM ET
Seriously, get someone on staff that was solid/elite on draws. Preferably someone who has played somewhat recently since there have been some rule tweaks.
- JRR1285


I really do think the outside the box approach would be to have players that are good at it take them regardless of position. Maybe its another thing that Fox is the best at ?
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Nov 19 @ 11:00 AM ET
I really do think the outside the box approach would be to have players that are good at it take them regardless of position. Maybe its another thing that Fox is the best at ?
- Greschnergy#4



Why not? I think Lafreniere looks good on draws. Maybe have him start taking them. He doesn't need to be the "Center". Thought it wouldn't hurt.
Greschnergy#4
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 12.10.2018

Nov 19 @ 11:01 AM ET
Seriously, get someone on staff that was solid/elite on draws. Preferably someone who has played somewhat recently since there have been some rule tweaks.
- JRR1285


i dont think the rules for draws have changed that much - stop being an age discriminator - there are a few things my generation could teach yours
MeltingPlastic
New York Rangers
Location: outside philthadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.17.2007

Nov 19 @ 11:11 AM ET
i dont think the rules for draws have changed that much - stop being an age discriminator - there are a few things my generation could teach yours

- Greschnergy#4

Don't think you can slash wrists and ankles like you could back then
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Nov 19 @ 11:41 AM ET
Don't think you can slash wrists and ankles like you could back then
- MeltingPlastic



Or use your hand to move the puck.
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Nov 19 @ 12:05 PM ET
Can you think of anyone recently on staff that was an ex player that was legitimately good on draws? Because I can't.
- JRR1285

Messier still around?
TommyGTrain
New York Rangers
Location: Part of NJ where its Taylor Ham not pork roll
Joined: 05.19.2017

Nov 19 @ 12:10 PM ET
i dont think the rules for draws have changed that much - stop being an age discriminator - there are a few things my generation could teach yours

- Greschnergy#4



Feet placement on the line is a BIG change for the old timers! Now get off my lawn!
Greschnergy#4
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 12.10.2018

Nov 19 @ 12:15 PM ET
Messier still around?
- Fenrir


sorry - too old
climbdenali12
New York Rangers
Location: MSG sec 226 Row 17 Seats 23-24
Joined: 11.18.2008

Nov 19 @ 12:16 PM ET
Messier still around?
- Fenrir


I think it would be better to find a guy currently in the league that can win faceoffs right now. It was mentioned a few weeks ago about Pavelski possibly from Dallas. Dude is awesome on faceoffs and can slot in as a top six winger.

On a more direct note, maybe getting someone like Glendening from Dallas would work as well. Great on faceoffs but a bottom six player. Knows his role and does it well. When Chytil and Strome and Mika faceoff against this guy in practice the will get better.
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Nov 19 @ 12:19 PM ET
I think it would be better to find a guy currently in the league that can win faceoffs right now. It was mentioned a few weeks ago about Pavelski possibly from Dallas. Dude is awesome on faceoffs and can slot in as a top six winger.

On a more direct note, maybe getting someone like Glendening from Dallas would work as well. Great on faceoffs but a bottom six player. Knows his role and does it well. When Chytil and Strome and Mika faceoff against this guy in practice the will get better.

- climbdenali12


Glendening and Pavelski in one trade would be awesome. Glendening bumps hunt out of the lineup and moves Rooney to wing. Pavelski can play RW on the Panarin line and take the faceoffs. Boom.

This is what Drury is saying though:


“Chris Drury, the general manager for the New York Rangers, is looking for a middle-six forward, which isn’t a term we use often in hockey,” Darren Dreger explained on TSN’s Insider Trading. “That can be a third-line player or someone who can punch into the top six.”

The choice of words sounds like Drury is getting the word out that he isn’t panicking by qualifying the need as a “middle six” forward. In truth, he is likely looking for a second line right wing.
Greschnergy#4
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 12.10.2018

Nov 19 @ 12:20 PM ET
Glendening and Pavelski in one trade would be awesome. Glendening bumps hunt out of the lineup and moves Rooney to wing. Pavelski can play RW on the Panarin line and take the faceoffs. Boom
- picklerick


who is going the other way?
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Nov 19 @ 12:22 PM ET
who is going the other way?
- Greschnergy#4


it's probably too early for Dallas to pack it in so it's unlikely that trade will occur anytime soon anyway
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Nov 19 @ 12:23 PM ET
who is going the other way?
- Greschnergy#4

That's my question too.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Nov 19 @ 12:24 PM ET
who is going the other way?
- Greschnergy#4



Kravtsov and a pick.
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Nov 19 @ 12:26 PM ET
Kravtsov and a pick.
- JRR1285


Kravtsov and a pick have to be worth more than one year of Pavelski and 2 of Glendenning. I'd say something like Robertson and a mid-late rounder or I look elsewhere.

JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Nov 19 @ 12:28 PM ET
Kravtsov and a pick have to be worth more than one year of Pavelski and 2 of Glendenning. I'd say something like Robertson and a mid-late rounder or I look elsewhere.
- picklerick



You have a need/want you're going to pay.

Just Kravtsov?
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Nov 19 @ 12:28 PM ET
You have a need/want you're going to pay.

Just Kravtsov?

- JRR1285


Looking at their roster, seems like Gurianov would/could be a good swap for Kravtsov. A little older, plays both wings, showed promise last year but could benefit from a change in scenery. Gurianov + Glendening for Krav???? Get some more G's up in this lineup
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