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Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON Joined: 02.12.2013
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This site is effectively non-functional on mobile these days. - Zezel
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TheMussel
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 09.24.2013
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a 3C who plays against top lines and comes out net positive and has the kind of mistake free carry outs in the D and NZ at 1.5M is cheap. Danault does it for 5.5M with better offensive output.
Danault had 5 goals last regular season and 1 goal in the playoffs in his contract year and still received 5.5M for his work against top lines. Shows the type of market value that can bring. - Santo_44
I'm not saying I hate David Kampf, but based on the small sample size on the Leafs he's a minus, has a negative giveaways to takeaways differential, and hitching the remainder of his contract to one game where he had a positive shot differential with zero offensive zone starts might make me question the narrative that he is certain to outperform his contract |
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This site is effectively non-functional on mobile these days. - Zezel
Curious when it became the most fragile website on the entire internet. My God, this thing crashes every 5 to 10 minutes. π€¦π»ββοΈ |
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I'm not saying I hate David Kampf, but based on the small sample size on the Leafs he's a minus, has a negative giveaways to takeaways differential, and hitching the remainder of his contract to one game where he had a positive shot differential with zero offensive zone starts might make me question the narrative that he is certain to outperform his contract - TheMussel
He's just doing what he accuses you and everyone else of doing, latching on to a relatively minor player in the grand scheme of things and going out of his way to over value him and grind it into everyone else's face.
Day 3 of going full max. π€¦π»ββοΈ |
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Fakepartofme
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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- senstroll
Hoping the ray conference is just as heartfelt |
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dmnted
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Location: Rented to Bruce Banner ;) Joined: 08.30.2006
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Curious when it became the most fragile website on the entire internet. My God, this thing crashes every 5 to 10 minutes. π€¦π»ββοΈ - joel878
bad updates |
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senstroll
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Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON Joined: 02.22.2008
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Hoping the ray conference is just as heartfelt - Fakepartofme
senstrolls odds at re-signing
Ray - 15%
Semian - 5%
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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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senstrolls odds at re-signing
Ray - 15%
Semian - 5% - senstroll
Ya after watching his post cy award interviews, im pretty sure he'll be signing elsewhere |
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Canada Cup
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Location: Macrodata Refinement , ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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I'm not saying I hate David Kampf, but based on the small sample size on the Leafs he's a minus, has a negative giveaways to takeaways differential, and hitching the remainder of his contract to one game where he had a positive shot differential with zero offensive zone starts might make me question the narrative that he is certain to outperform his contract - TheMussel
I guess that depends on what you think he was signed to do. That line consistently starts in the D zone and ends play in the offensive zone. He keeps possession and is up with Matthews, JT and Nylander with the fewest dump outs and dump ins and has the fewest possession losses except for Matthews. He and Kase are doing their jobs. If Kase can add some goals, cool. |
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Monkeypunk
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Location: Whenever, wherever, ON Joined: 06.27.2013
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He's just doing what he accuses you and everyone else of doing, latching on to a relatively minor player in the grand scheme of things and going out of his way to over value him and grind it into everyone else's face.
Day 3 of going full max. π€¦π»ββοΈ - joel878
I don't know. Kampf is bringing exactly what you wanted him to bring.
Kampf has had 12.3% of his starts in the offensive zone and still has a positive xGF. His _actual_ is -1, but when you're playing against the other team's top lines, rarely start in the offensive zone, and start a significant number of times in the defensive zone, and have positive play generation numbers (xGF and SCF%; HDCF is -3 over 17 games), you're doing alright.
Kampf, Kase and Engvall have the lowest offensive zone start totals in the league - by a significant margin - and have mostly positive numbers. The big guns have stepped up and are scoring, but the third line is doing a good job of shutting the other team's best players down as well.
I mean we want him to win faceoffs (57%), we want him to shut down the opposition's top offensive players (he's fourth on the team in GA/60 @ 5v5) and we don't want his line hemmed in our zone - which we see them way more often than not leave the ice with an offensive zone faceoff after starting in our zone.
Small sample size, but so far - that line is bringing what we've been missing for years. |
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senstroll
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Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON Joined: 02.22.2008
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Benning/Canucks stuff really feels like the Nonis Leafs... no answers...thinks the poorly built team is good and cant explain why
no idea how you can have him in charge of a billion dollar corporation.
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PatC80
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Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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I don't know. Kampf is bringing exactly what you wanted him to bring.
Kampf has had 12.3% of his starts in the offensive zone and still has a positive xGF. His _actual_ is -1, but when you're playing against the other team's top lines, rarely start in the offensive zone, and start a significant number of times in the defensive zone, and have positive play generation numbers (xGF and SCF%; HDCF is -3 over 17 games), you're doing alright.
Kampf, Kase and Engvall have the lowest offensive zone start totals in the league - by a significant margin - and have mostly positive numbers. The big guns have stepped up and are scoring, but the third line is doing a good job of shutting the other team's best players down as well.
I mean we want him to win faceoffs (57%), we want him to shut down the opposition's top offensive players (he's fourth on the team in GA/60 @ 5v5) and we don't want his line hemmed in our zone - which we see them way more often than not leave the ice with an offensive zone faceoff after starting in our zone.
Small sample size, but so far - that line is bringing what we've been missing for years. - Monkeypunk
Agreed... Kampf has been doing the things this Leafs team needs. I think he's handled his role here really well, and done a really good job of being the shutdown guy..
Look at the last Nashville game, his play in the D-zone was strong, I like what he brings.. Plus, he's supplying some offense this season (5 points in 17 games) considering he's getting 87% D-zone starts, 5 points is rather impressive.. |
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winsix
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Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine Joined: 04.03.2016
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Santo_44
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Joined: 10.20.2014
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I'm not saying I hate David Kampf, but based on the small sample size on the Leafs he's a minus, has a negative giveaways to takeaways differential, and hitching the remainder of his contract to one game where he had a positive shot differential with zero offensive zone starts might make me question the narrative that he is certain to outperform his contract - TheMussel
takeaways? As a player that is meant to start in his zone and bring the puck out of the zone and into the O zone I reference James Mirtles stats from his article in the athletic. Where he ranks 2nd to Matthews in lowest puck losses. and 1st in his own zone despite spending so much time there, which directly relates to his net positive SA/SA despite always starting in his own end.
Another interesting from the article is how well he holds onto the puck, he rarely dumps it in as one of his strongest skill is holding onto the puck, which again results in more puck possession.
He plays against top lines and neutralizes them...something the Leafs have been missing. At 1.5M its going to be a steal of a contract if the above remains true.
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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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Benning/Canucks stuff really feels like the Nonis Leafs... no answers...thinks the poorly built team is good and cant explain why
no idea how you can have him in charge of a billion dollar corporation. - senstroll
wait, wait, wait.... Is this a fan and media driven narrative? Or does that apply only to the Maple Leafs? |
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Santo_44
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Joined: 10.20.2014
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I don't know. Kampf is bringing exactly what you wanted him to bring.
Kampf has had 12.3% of his starts in the offensive zone and still has a positive xGF. His _actual_ is -1, but when you're playing against the other team's top lines, rarely start in the offensive zone, and start a significant number of times in the defensive zone, and have positive play generation numbers (xGF and SCF%; HDCF is -3 over 17 games), you're doing alright.
Kampf, Kase and Engvall have the lowest offensive zone start totals in the league - by a significant margin - and have mostly positive numbers. The big guns have stepped up and are scoring, but the third line is doing a good job of shutting the other team's best players down as well.
I mean we want him to win faceoffs (57%), we want him to shut down the opposition's top offensive players (he's fourth on the team in GA/60 @ 5v5) and we don't want his line hemmed in our zone - which we see them way more often than not leave the ice with an offensive zone faceoff after starting in our zone.
Small sample size, but so far - that line is bringing what we've been missing for years. - Monkeypunk
Stop it, Joel will think you are going full Max.
But in all seriousness I agree with you 100%. Hard to argue against real numbers |
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winsix
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Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine Joined: 04.03.2016
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Benning/Canucks stuff really feels like the Nonis Leafs... no answers...thinks the poorly built team is good and cant explain why
no idea how you can have him in charge of a billion dollar corporation. - senstroll
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Santo_44
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Joined: 10.20.2014
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wait, wait, wait.... Is this a fan and media driven narrative? Or does that apply only to the Maple Leafs? - PatC80
Your contribution to that convo is starting to hurt my brain. Please stop |
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Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Macrodata Refinement , ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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Your contribution to that convo is starting to hurt my brain. Please stop - Santo_44
I think itβs just a Pat driven narrative |
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Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Macrodata Refinement , ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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takeaways? As a player that is meant to start in his zone and bring the puck out of the zone and into the O zone I reference James Mirtles stats from his article in the athletic. Where he ranks 2nd to Matthews in lowest puck losses. and 1st in his own zone despite spending so much time there, which directly relates to his net positive SA/SA despite always starting in his own end.
Another interesting from the article is how well he holds onto the puck, he rarely dumps it in as one of his strongest skill is holding onto the puck, which again results in more puck possession.
He plays against top lines and neutralizes them...something the Leafs have been missing. At 1.5M its going to be a steal of a contract if the above remains true. - Santo_44
Interesting article also noting the bad numbers of those who have left (except for Hyman) |
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Santo_44
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Joined: 10.20.2014
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I think itβs just a Pat driven narrative - Canada Cup
I can appreciate some digs to me that actually make sense and are well thought out
But man oh man at least try to make sense Pat. |
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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC Joined: 02.25.2007
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Hi Mike: Niemela as you pointed out is putting up impressive numbers for Karpat. He looks like a lock to be an NHL dman. Is there any plan to get him to the Marlies this year? - winsix
Bold statement.
But he's looking good out there.
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Santo_44
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Joined: 10.20.2014
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Interesting article also noting the bad numbers of those who have left (except for Hyman) - Canada Cup
Yup, which is interesting. The players brought in this season are proving to contribute without making so many mistakes.
Which is why we are seeing so many low scoring games I think. One can hope this will translate into playoff success.
I am also willing to bet this is a new gameplay and in practice its working out well so far...Probably kicking themselves at the Foligno acquisition. |
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Garnie
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Location: ON Joined: 11.30.2009
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Hereβs some #βs for ya.
Cf%44
Shots for 43%
Expected goals 44%
Scoring chances 42%
High danger changes for 38%
GLG |
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The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 01.29.2008
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I make the analogy that the Kampf line starts every shift in the rough with a putter. If at the end of the game he's at even par at 5v5 he gets a (frank)ing trophy.
The big boys get upwards of 65-70% OZone starts. That's a driver on a tee on a short par 4. They finish the game at par at 5v5 and we should be disappointed. |
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