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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 22 @ 4:25 PM ET
This does NOT explain why the XGA is better for Risto .. that has nothing to do with minutes played!
- jd250


I didn't even look at expected goals and yes it does have to do with minutes played. LOL

Edit:

Here it is for you.

https://naturalstattrick....ines=single&draftteam=ALL

Ristolainen has a worse XGA/60 than Nick Seeler.


MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 22 @ 4:28 PM ET
I like Sanheim but he is what he is. Some folks thinks he’s gods gift and others think he’s the worst Dman on the team. Not the same exact player but he’s kind of like braydon Coburn
- ClaudeFather


Not really. Braydon Coburn over his career was a really solid strong skating defender. His strength was playing defense and using his speed to recover pucks. Which made him a good compliment for Timonen. Sanheim is more of an offensive defenseman.
BluehorseShoe64
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2018

Nov 22 @ 4:34 PM ET
Farabee s drop off is most shocking. I thought he was poised for a big year. Lindblom doesn’t shock me. I hope he can eventually get back contributing like he did before cancer but he may not ever.
- Hextall271

People have to stop bashing Farabee. If you are an opposing coach who watched film on their early games, who was scoring ? Farabee was on fire, and so was Atkinson. G had a great start, and is still producing. However, teams know who is producing, and know if they snuff them out with nobody else producing, you have what you see now, < 2g / game, losing hockey. The other posters have pointed out some glaring issues. As I see it, agree with the lack of skill up the middle to carry the puck, sustain possession. The task is then left to the wings, who are not in high percentage areas of the ice, or get pushed to the perimeter. This effects the power play too. Teams can play the same D against them whether full strength or short handed because we're stuck dumping & chasing - sending the puck around the boards, which I agree, is a 50-50 proposition, lacks consistency. Coots for some reason doesn't look to be full speed. Lindblom is not going to return to his previous level. Konecny has the guts to hold the puck, but he gets pounded on by bigger players. He shouldn't have to carry the puck, that is for bigger players. JVR hasn't caught any lightning so far, has been put on lines that were not designed for him or his style. I think this team needs to make a big trade, and also clear some caps space, plus buy out at least one dead weight player to get a legit scorer, or we're going to see a rerun of last season. Unfortunately, not much trade capital, unless we move some surprises. Doesn't matter, as this group, without Ellis - who we can't depend on at any time going forward. Who is to say after this injury, he won't get a new one ? That's exactly what happened the last 3 seasons with him. We tried to get a #1 d man for Myers & Patrick, which was not a high price when you look at other deals around the league. You get what you pay for.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 22 @ 4:38 PM ET
People have to stop bashing Farabee. If you are an opposing coach who watched film on their early games, who was scoring ? Farabee was on fire, and so was Atkinson. G had a great start, and is still producing. However, teams know who is producing, and know if they snuff them out with nobody else producing, you have what you see now, < 2g / game, losing hockey. The other posters have pointed out some glaring issues. As I see it, agree with the lack of skill up the middle to carry the puck, sustain possession. The task is then left to the wings, who are not in high percentage areas of the ice, or get pushed to the perimeter. This effects the power play too. Teams can play the same D against them whether full strength or short handed because we're stuck dumping & chasing - sending the puck around the boards, which I agree, is a 50-50 proposition, lacks consistency. Coots for some reason doesn't look to be full speed. Lindblom is not going to return to his previous level. Konecny has the guts to hold the puck, but he gets pounded on by bigger players. He shouldn't have to carry the puck, that is for bigger players. JVR hasn't caught any lightning so far, has been put on lines that were not designed for him or his style. I think this team needs to make a big trade, and also clear some caps space, plus buy out at least one dead weight player to get a legit scorer, or we're going to see a rerun of last season. Unfortunately, not much trade capital, unless we move some surprises. Doesn't matter, as this group, without Ellis - who we can't depend on at any time going forward. Who is to say after this injury, he won't get a new one ? That's exactly what happened the last 3 seasons with him. We tried to get a #1 d man for Myers & Patrick, which was not a high price when you look at other deals around the league. You get what you pay for.
- BluehorseShoe64


Farabee deserves the criticism. He has not been playing well and it doesn't have anything to do with any special attention being paid to him
Buying a player out is the worst possible thing this team could do.

Did you watch the recent game against Tampa Bay? Did you see how Brayden Point carried the puck? How big is he?
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Nov 22 @ 4:44 PM ET
Another prospect we will be talking about in 5 years and he’ll be given the he missed time treatment .
- ClaudeFather



It is like, you can't be a Flyer if you don't get hurt. Less clutching and grabbing more injuries LOL. You want goals or do you want your players in the lineup.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Nov 22 @ 4:48 PM ET
Isles lost 6 in a row, wow, almost dead last in the East
BluehorseShoe64
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2018

Nov 22 @ 4:55 PM ET
Farabee deserves the criticism. He has not been playing well and it doesn't have anything to do with any special attention being paid to him
Buying a player out is the worst possible thing this team could do.

Did you watch the recent game against Tampa Bay? Did you see how Brayden Point carried the puck? How big is he?

- MJL

I have watched every game, been doing so for the last 40+ years. We may have to agree to disagree. What else do you want from a player who is in the last year of his entry level deal? He now plays on the pk, was already on the pp why ? The pp has stunk dating back to last year. He plays top 6, has a high TOI. All that for 5+ million - starting NEXT year. My friend, that is what players making 7-8 mill do.
This team just does not have enough talent to go around. It is the reason why they have to chip the puck around the boards, pop up pucks to center ice, do wrap arounds etc. etc. Maybe you haven't played before. You need complimentary talent if you're going to succeed. Look at Voracek. I see he has 13 points, 5 on the pp. He is playing with different players ! With Hayes out of the lineup (someone who can carry the puck), there aren't enough puck carriers on this team. Give Farabee time, he's picked up every other skill, I'm sure he'll start eventually carrying the puck more consistently at this level.

BluehorseShoe64
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2018

Nov 22 @ 5:00 PM ET
Farabee deserves the criticism. He has not been playing well and it doesn't have anything to do with any special attention being paid to him
Buying a player out is the worst possible thing this team could do.

Did you watch the recent game against Tampa Bay? Did you see how Brayden Point carried the puck? How big is he?

- MJL


For 7, 8 million respectively, JVR / Giroux / Coots should be able to carry the puck. If not, then why those salaries ? Somebody has to carry the puck, or else, they're just chasing (isn't that what they're doing?). Why are we expecting smaller, lower paid players to do it ? You know who used to do it ? Voracek. Now, I was not against the trade, but some bad luck has followed. What we're seeing with the possession game is a result of having both him and Hayes out of this lineup. And to a degree, Ellis, who would carry from their own end.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 22 @ 5:05 PM ET
Will the flyers make a trade before xmas to address any of their needs?
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Nov 22 @ 5:05 PM ET
A v confirmed. Hayes out due to same injury. Week to week. Starting rehab in Tampa. This seems promising….,
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Nov 22 @ 5:06 PM ET
Not really. Braydon Coburn over his career was a really solid strong skating defender. His strength was playing defense and using his speed to recover pucks. Which made him a good compliment for Timonen. Sanheim is more of an offensive defenseman.
- MJL


I would not label sanhiem as an offensive d man.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Nov 22 @ 5:10 PM ET
Will the flyers make a trade before xmas to address any of their needs?
- hello it's me 2050


Either way I’m sure it’s the wrong answer.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 22 @ 5:11 PM ET
A v confirmed. Hayes out due to same injury. Week to week. Starting rehab in Tampa. This seems promising….,
- Peter Richards

Keep Frost in the minors they don't need his skillset in anyway.

Well at least injuries will be the excuse this year. Probably buys the incompetent coach and management more time.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Nov 22 @ 5:15 PM ET
I would not label sanhiem as an offensive d man.
- Peter Richards



He is turning into Nick Leddy before our eyes.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 22 @ 5:16 PM ET
He is turning into Nick Leddy before our eyes.
- PT21

karl dykhius
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 22 @ 5:29 PM ET
Not really. Braydon Coburn over his career was a really solid strong skating defender. His strength was playing defense and using his speed to recover pucks. Which made him a good compliment for Timonen. Sanheim is more of an offensive defenseman.
- MJL

I said they weren’t the exact same player. they are that second pairing guy that has some limitations, Corburn didn’t have a ton of offense but made up for it defending and Sanheim is a little of the opposite. A solid second pairing guy. Sanheim probably has a little room to grow, specifically getting stronger. Hopefully it comes as he matures
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 22 @ 5:30 PM ET
A v confirmed. Hayes out due to same injury. Week to week. Starting rehab in Tampa. This seems promising….,
- Peter Richards

Frank this organization man, pathetic
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Nov 22 @ 5:32 PM ET
I said they weren’t the exact same player. they are that second pairing guy that has some limitations, Corburn didn’t have a ton of offense but made up for it defending and Sanheim is a little of the opposite. A solid second pairing guy. Sanheim probably has a little room to grow, specifically getting stronger. Hopefully it comes as he matures
- ClaudeFather




I think his best years are ahead, he just does not gain weight, the only way he will is when gets a little older. I think they have no choice but to put him on PP, what could it hurt. I think his best years will start around 27 ish
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 22 @ 5:33 PM ET
Keep Frost in the minors they don't need his skillset in anyway.

Well at least injuries will be the excuse this year. Probably buys the incompetent coach and management more time.

- hello it's me 2050

The center depth has to be bottom 5 in the league. Patrick and Rubstov haha, good picks
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 22 @ 5:34 PM ET
I think his best years are ahead, he just does not gain weight, the only way he will is when gets a little older. I think they have no choice but to put him on PP, what could it hurt. I think his best years will start around 27 ish
- wcorvette

I don’t think he will be the solution but every other Dman has sucked, give him a try
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Nov 22 @ 5:35 PM ET
Not really. Braydon Coburn over his career was a really solid strong skating defender. His strength was playing defense and using his speed to recover pucks. Which made him a good compliment for Timonen. Sanheim is more of an offensive defenseman.
- MJL

well i guess we need to label him something
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Nov 22 @ 5:36 PM ET
The center depth has to be bottom 5 in the league. Patrick and Rubstov haha, good picks
- ClaudeFather


good old ronnie, smartest guy in the room
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Nov 22 @ 5:37 PM ET
I knew I had seen you around town.



- PT21

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 22 @ 5:57 PM ET
I have watched every game, been doing so for the last 40+ years. We may have to agree to disagree. What else do you want from a player who is in the last year of his entry level deal? He now plays on the pk, was already on the pp why ? The pp has stunk dating back to last year. He plays top 6, has a high TOI. All that for 5+ million - starting NEXT year. My friend, that is what players making 7-8 mill do.


- BluehorseShoe64


So what you're telling me is that based on your 40+ years of watching hockey, it is unreasonable to expect more than 1 point out of Farabee over the last 13 games? Should I put together a list of players who put up high scoring totals while still on their entry level deal? Maybe you'll be familiar with them. If we paid him 7-8M a year he would score more than 1 point in 13 games? Or should we just ignore that because he's playing on the PP and the PK?


This team just does not have enough talent to go around. It is the reason why they have to chip the puck around the boards, pop up pucks to center ice, do wrap arounds etc. etc. Maybe you haven't played before. You need complimentary talent if you're going to succeed. Look at Voracek. I see he has 13 points, 5 on the pp. He is playing with different players ! With Hayes out of the lineup (someone who can carry the puck), there aren't enough puck carriers on this team. Give Farabee time, he's picked up every other skill, I'm sure he'll start eventually carrying the puck more consistently at this level.

- BluehorseShoe64


I agree, transition play is a major issue with this team.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 22 @ 5:59 PM ET
For 7, 8 million respectively, JVR / Giroux / Coots should be able to carry the puck. If not, then why those salaries ? Somebody has to carry the puck, or else, they're just chasing (isn't that what they're doing?). Why are we expecting smaller, lower paid players to do it ? You know who used to do it ? Voracek. Now, I was not against the trade, but some bad luck has followed. What we're seeing with the possession game is a result of having both him and Hayes out of this lineup. And to a degree, Ellis, who would carry from their own end.
- BluehorseShoe64


So Konecny can't carry the puck because he's too small and is not paid enough?
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