I would not label sanhiem as an offensive d man.
- Peter Richards

I would. What is he, a defensive defenseman?

This team has no play drivers. I've noticed without Voracek not one of their forwards carries the puck into the zone. I wanted him out of here, but I was concerned that this could indeed be a problem. None of their forwards can do it and that's why they spend most of the game chasing the puck. The only two guys I see carrying the puck into the zone are Sanheim and Provorov. Eh what?

This team has no play drivers. I've noticed without Voracek not one of their forwards carries the puck into the zone. I wanted him out of here, but I was concerned that this could indeed be a problem. None of their forwards can do it and that's why they spend most of the game chasing the puck. The only two guys I see carrying the puck into the zone are Sanheim and Provorov. Eh what??
- Phillywhiteout

You were all over Voracek. Wanted him gone. It wasn't just you. What did myself and others such as Tomahawk tell you guys?

Why do you say that? Suppose Risto plays just 1 shift in a game, team gives up 1 long range low danger shot during that shift, then he gets injured.

What will Risto's XGA be? It will be 0.
- PT21

But that is not reality! The reality is Risto plays as much as Provorov does 5 on 5! Provorov gets more ice time because he points the 1st PP unit, where his XGA should be negligible. So its an apples to apples comparison and frankly, Risto is better than the proclaimed best Flyers defenseman, plain and simple!

You were all over Voracek. Wanted him gone. It wasn't just you. What did myself and others such as Tomahawk tell you guys?

- MJL

Don't get me wrong. I don't want Voracek back cause most of the time he would get the puck in the zone and do nothing with it, but it is an element that this team misses. I thought Atkinson had more quicks and could be a play driver, but he is basically a guy that needs a puck carrier with him to feed him the puck. Goes back to my issue with the speed of the forwards on this team. Slooooooooow....just heard Hayes is out with the same injury. What a shocker! This team is toast with Ellis and Hayes out for what will probably amount to the rest of 2021, and who knows what happens when they do come back cause those type of injuries can linger on and on and on and on and on. Time to hit myself over the head!!

I didn't even look at expected goals and yes it does have to do with minutes played. LOL

Edit:

Here it is for you.

https://naturalstattrick....ines=single&draftteam=ALL

Ristolainen has a worse XGA/60 than Nick Seeler.
- MJL

You're just wrong .. you have no idea what you are talking about! Seeler only plays about half the minutes Risto plays in a game. I was comparing Risto with Provorov, and when you remove Provorov's PP time, they are even in minutes, and Risto is better!

This team has no play drivers. I've noticed without Voracek not one of their forwards carries the puck into the zone. I wanted him out of here, but I was concerned that this could indeed be a problem. None of their forwards can do it and that's why they spend most of the game chasing the puck. The only two guys I see carrying the puck into the zone are Sanheim and Provorov. Eh what?
- Phillywhiteout

we had the same issues with jake last year, just had more turnovers and even less compete level than this year

You were all over Voracek. Wanted him gone. It wasn't just you. What did myself and others such as Tomahawk tell you guys?

- MJL

Oh please .. Jake was a DOG and needed to go. He is not the reason the forwards are not scoring right now. The Flyers lack of center depth has caught up to them, plain and simple and frankly Couts has underperformed this year so far IMO.

pretty sure we got a good player back, you think he will be hurt for 6 years because hes been hurt for 10 games now?
- bradster

Good to know you’ve been paying attention to Ryan Ellis’ entire career.

Brassard has filled in very nicely, I still would take Laughton over him, especially moving forward
- ClaudeFather

Anyone would move forward with the younger player but labeling Laughton as the much better player is ridiculous.

I would. What is he, a defensive defenseman?
- MJL

Two way.

Good to know you’ve been paying attention to Ryan Ellis’ entire career.
- SuperSchennBros

yep i have

But that is not reality! The reality is Risto plays as much as Provorov does 5 on 5! Provorov gets more ice time because he points the 1st PP unit, where his XGA should be negligible. So its an apples to apples comparison and frankly, Risto is better than the proclaimed best Flyers defenseman, plain and simple!
- jd250

There is both a failure of fact here and pure fantasy on your part. Ristolainen does not play as much as Provorov does 5 on 5. He plays about a minute less per game. Stating that Ristolainen is better than Provorov is pure absurdity. Ristolainen is at best, the 3rd best defenseman on this team.

There is both a failure of fact here and pure fantasy on your part. Ristolainen does not play as much as Provorov does 5 on 5. He plays about a minute less. Stating that Ristolainen is better than Provorov is pure absurdity. Ristolainen is at best, the 3rd best defenseman on this team.
- MJL

day 33 of RR bashing, good job troll

You're just wrong .. you have no idea what you are talking about! Seeler only plays about half the minutes Risto plays in a game. I was comparing Risto with Provorov, and when you remove Provorov's PP time, they are even in minutes, and Risto is better!
- jd250

The link is right there for you. I know you like fantasy more than you like facts. You are wrong again. They are not even in minutes if you remove Provorov's PP time

Your posts are equivalent of a child having a temper tantrum. You threw out a stat XGA that you obviously know nothing about. In fact your attempt to use two different stats were both wrong. But here you are telling me I'm wrong. Can't make it up.

we had the same issues with jake last year, just had more turnovers and even less compete level than this year
- bradster

Yes. Not even sure why it’s still being discussed. Something had to change. In the move we got cap space as well. No cam can’t carry the puck the same. Jake can’t defend as well. Can can’t set up plays as well. Jake can’t score like cam. They are different players. And imo jake needed a change as well.

The cap space was very helpful. Allowed us to sign additional players.

Oh please .. Jake was a DOG and needed to go. He is not the reason the forwards are not scoring right now. The Flyers lack of center depth has caught up to them, plain and simple and frankly Couts has underperformed this year so far IMO.
- jd250

Yea, he's still a DOG in Columbus, racking up assists. Trading Voracek and not replacing his ability in transition was a major miscalculation on the GM's part.

Two way.
- Peter Richards

Fine with that but he's more offensive than defensive in my opinion.

Yes. Not even sure why it’s still being discussed. Something had to change. In the move we got cap space as well. No cam can’t carry the puck the same. Jake can’t defend as well. Can can’t set up plays as well. Jake can’t score like cam. They are different players. And imo jake needed a change as well.

The cap space was very helpful. Allowed us to sign additional players.
- Peter Richards

thats just mjl trolling, its a daily occurance
id be happy with jake gone for nothing, getting cam for him was just a bonus

Will the flyers make a trade before xmas to address any of their needs?
- hello it's me 2050

Honest question -- what of value do they have to trade? Draft picks?

For those keeping tabs. Myers’s healthy scratch.

Honest question -- what of value do they have to trade? Draft picks?
- corduroy

there some value, TK Laughton Sandheim. There are some pieces
they may need to trade to start a rebuild though. Or maybe for someone like Horvat, or someone from a struggling team like vancouver

Honest question -- what of value do they have to trade? Draft picks?
- corduroy

Nate Thompson. Hands of stone, I mean gold, I mean pyrite.

For those keeping tabs. Myers’s healthy scratch.
- Peter Richards

saw he didnt play on the weekend, wasnt sure if he was hurt or scratched, dont really care either. I had hoped for him a couple years ago, but last year, and seeing he couldnt correct any of those horrendous mistakes he made, there might have been a reason he wasnt drafted, then just put together a decent year or two after, now back to normal. Not really sure

Honest question -- what of value do they have to trade? Draft picks?
- corduroy

From current roster who I think they may possibly move with value: TK Sanheimsdasssssse
Phantoms: york zamula Frost any prospect really.

With them being capped out money has to go out as well. Unless they know one of ellis/hayes is likely done.