At the end of the day, the Flyers have had 5 top 15 picks since taking Couts in 2011:
From highest to lowest
2017 Patrick 2OA: utter bust
2015 Provorov 7OA: excellent pick
2013 Morin 13OA: utter bust
2018 Farabee 14OA: good pick, could still get better
2019 York 14OA: good prospect, too soon to judge
So 2 complete busts, one good D prospect though probably not a top pair guy, a middle 6 wing who might, or might not, work his way higher up the lineup and a top pair Dman.
Not good enough, especially when 2 of the 3 highest picks are total fails.
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From current roster who I think they may possibly move with value: TK Sanheimsdasssssse
Phantoms: york zamula Frost any prospect really.
With them being capped out money has to go out as well. Unless they know one of ellis/hayes is likely done. - hello it's me 2050
That is the problem the Flyers are in, and have been in. They need an influx of talent and cap space but have little to offer other teams. If prospects were that good wouldn't they already be playing? As far as cap ramifications they can waive anyone and bring up a player in the AHL and the cap hits would wash. They waive, for the sake of argument, Lindblom at 3.9 amd bring up frost. They would save a million on linblom to pay frost 900K so it would be a net cap space gain.
*numbers are rounded, I did not do a deep dive into the whole cap ramifications, please calm down and smoke a blunt or something*
At the end of the day, the Flyers have had 5 top 15 picks since taking Couts in 2011:
From highest to lowest
2017 Patrick 2OA: utter bust
2015 Provorov 7OA: excellent pick
2013 Morin 13OA: utter bust
2018 Farabee 14OA: good pick, could still get better
2019 York 14OA: good prospect, too soon to judge
So 2 complete busts, one good D prospect though probably not a top pair guy, a middle 6 wing who might, or might not, work his way higher up the lineup and a top pair Dman.
Not good enough, especially when 2 of the 3 highest picks are total fails. - BiggE
The Patrick pick was just sheer bad luck. Nobody saw that coming. Turned out to be a complete head case.
At the end of the day, the Flyers have had 5 top 15 picks since taking Couts in 2011:
From highest to lowest
2017 Patrick 2OA: utter bust
2015 Provorov 7OA: excellent pick
2013 Morin 13OA: utter bust
2018 Farabee 14OA: good pick, could still get better
2019 York 14OA: good prospect, too soon to judge
So 2 complete busts, one good D prospect though probably not a top pair guy, a middle 6 wing who might, or might not, work his way higher up the lineup and a top pair Dman.
Not good enough, especially when 2 of the 3 highest picks are total fails. - BiggE
good thing you didnt just look at 1st round picks, you might be shocked how we screwed it up
The Patrick pick was just sheer bad luck. Nobody saw that coming. Turned out to be a complete head case. - MJL
It was, but OTOH Hextall did overrule his scouts who were leaning towards Heiskanen and just imagine Heiskanen on their blue line instead of an aging Ellis.
And, there is no defending the Morin pick. Not when much more highly skilled players were still on the board.
That is the problem the Flyers are in, and have been in. They need an influx of talent and cap space but have little to offer other teams. If prospects were that good wouldn't they already be playing? As far as cap ramifications they can waive anyone and bring up a player in the AHL and the cap hits would wash. They waive, for the sake of argument, Lindblom at 3.9 amd bring up frost. They would save a million on linblom to pay frost 900K so it would be a net cap space gain.
*numbers are rounded, I did not do a deep dive into the whole cap ramifications, please calm down and smoke a blunt or something* - corduroy
Lindblom's cap hit is 3M. If the Flyers waived Lindblom, they would save all of it because he would be claimed.
It was, but OTOH Hextall did overrule his scouts who were leaning towards Heiskanen and just imagine Heiskanen on their blue line instead of an aging Ellis.
And, there is no defending the Morin pick. Not when much more highly skilled players were still on the board. - BiggE
Heiskanen would be awesome.
Vancouver peeps starting to grumble about Petterson though. but hes prob just getting off to a slow start
I think Myers suffers from low hockey IQ and I'm not sure that can be fixed. I also don't like the fact that he is physically challenged. What I mean is despite the fact that he is a big guy it seems he's the one that gets dinged up every time he throws a big hit. Out of the two that they lost he has a chance to be something, but I wouldn't bet on it. - Phillywhiteout
Agree. He has the nhl size and speed. But loses coverage. His physical gifts only go so far at the nhl level. He is effective when he keeps it simple. Not the 1 st pairing guy some thought he would be. Wonder if he’ll be a regular for them later this year. Interesting he keeps getting scratched.
It was, but OTOH Hextall did overrule his scouts who were leaning towards Heiskanen and just imagine Heiskanen on their blue line instead of an aging Ellis.
And, there is no defending the Morin pick. Not when much more highly skilled players were still on the board. - BiggE
As Bill related, there was no consensus on the pick among the scouts. Some wanted Patrick, some Heiskanen. Hextall made the decision but he didn't overrule anyone.
There were other opportunities that they could've explored this past off season other than trading for Ellis and Ristolainen.
As Bill related, there was no consensus on the pick among the scouts. Some wanted Patrick, some Heiskanen. Hextall made the decision but he didn't overrule anyone.
There were other opportunities that they could've explored this past off season other than trading for Ellis and Ristolainen. - MJL
Semantics, at the end of the day Hextall made the wrong choice. It’s 100% on him.
As Bill related, there was no consensus on the pick among the scouts. Some wanted Patrick, some Heiskanen. Hextall made the decision but he didn't overrule anyone.
There were other opportunities that they could've explored this past off season other than trading for Ellis and Ristolainen. - MJL
that goes against everything weve heard about hextalls time here. How do you know he didnt overrule anyone
As Bill related, there was no consensus on the pick among the scouts. Some wanted Patrick, some Heiskanen. Hextall made the decision but he didn't overrule anyone.
There were other opportunities that they could've explored this past off season other than trading for Ellis and Ristolainen. - MJL
not sure nobody saw it. Jersey did, some of our own scouts did. And who knows about the other teams. Teams do their homework. - bradster
I remember the consensus was either hischier or Patrick as number 1 with the other going 2. The concern was Patrick injuries but the flyers didn’t go off the board with Patrick. I would say that the scouts didn’t predict that he’d end up going through the motions like he didn’t like playing the game at all. Bad luck imo. If I had it to do over I’d take makar.
At the end of the day, the Flyers have had 5 top 15 picks since taking Couts in 2011:
From highest to lowest
2017 Patrick 2OA: utter bust
2015 Provorov 7OA: excellent pick
2013 Morin 13OA: utter bust
2018 Farabee 14OA: good pick, could still get better
2019 York 14OA: good prospect, too soon to judge
So 2 complete busts, one good D prospect though probably not a top pair guy, a middle 6 wing who might, or might not, work his way higher up the lineup and a top pair Dman.
Not good enough, especially when 2 of the 3 highest picks are total fails. - BiggE
I know he wasn’t top 15, but where does tk fit? Decent pick top 6 forward? I’d like to see more from him but he’s a good pick.
As Bill related, there was no consensus on the pick among the scouts. Some wanted Patrick, some Heiskanen. Hextall made the decision but he didn't overrule anyone.
There were other opportunities that they could've explored this past off season other than trading for Ellis and Ristolainen. - MJL
Sorry if I missed it, but I saw that Hayes is out “week to week.” Did the Flyers have another forward in Florida at practice today? Do they have 12 available to play?
