100%..

Patrick busting has seriously set them backu
- THE BLACK HAND

Say something once.....why say it again?

Whatever Ronnies job was he didn’t do it well. He was average. It’s sad that this team has been totally irrelevant for close to a decade
- ClaudeFather

correct, average. Results validate this imo. Over a decade.

Say something once.....why say it again?

- Phillywhiteout

psycho killer

Been meaning to ask this for awhile since I don't have access to the attendance figures, but how are the Flyers drawing this year? A buddy asked me to go a couple of weeks ago cause he had a connection for cheap tickets and I said nah(went out to a local establishment instead)....not wasting any money until I see a real team on the ice. Was a season ticket holder from 1985-2005, but I haven't been to a game since the 2012 playoffs against the Pens.

psycho killer
- hello it's me 2050

Whatever Ronnies job was he didn’t do it well. He was average. It’s sad that this team has been totally irrelevant for close to a decade
- ClaudeFather

He did do it well. He cleared up the cap situation, added draft picks and drafted a good number of talented NHL players. He was not allowed to finish his job. Now the team is positioned with older, aging and injured players, less draft picks and is mired in mediocrity while capped out under Dave Scott's great correction. What's next if this season doesn't turn out well? Give Fletcher more carte blanche?

correct, average. Results validate this imo. Over a decade.
- hello it's me 2050

Yup
Since 2012:
9 seasons
Missed the playoffs 5 times
Out in the first round 3 times
A grand total of one series win

Pathetic

He did do it well. He cleared up the cap situation, added draft picks and drafted a good number of talented NHL players. He was not allowed to finish his job. Now the team is positioned with older, aging and injured players, less draft picks and is mired in mediocrity while capped out under Dave Scott's great correction. What's next if this season doesn't turn out well? Give Fletcher more carte blanche?
- MJL

wasn't allowed to finish the job because he wasn't doing a good enough job.

He earned his firing. Saint Ronnie had them mired in mediocrity with no end in sight. Yeah he had a plan, get the phuck out of here..

Amazing the felating Saint Ronnie still gets from some

Would say horrible but average. It was all the hype they sold for the prospects. Really his first couple drafts weren’t bad. Then he outsmarted himself with some of his picks.
- Peter Richards

Well his job was to build prospects and get out of cap hell.
but signed jvr and jake or huge contracts.
Prospects - traded schenn who would fill a huge need, wouldve prevented us needing to sign Hayes. For Farabee and Frost....not even sure if we can call that an even trade. Its funny, if we judge that trade today its a loss....we can give it more time before we judge it, even though its already been almost 5 years.

He shouldve went full rebuild at that time. That was his huge mistake, but he mightve screwed that up also

he did a very good job , get the phuck out of here with that nonsense. Very good job good lord.
- hello it's me 2050

I know right, thats total nonsense. He calls everyone out when they spew nonsense, time for him to take his BS.

He will defend hextall to the end..... i have no idea why

Yup
Since 2012:
9 seasons
Missed the playoffs 5 times
Out in the first round 3 times
A grand total of one series win

Pathetic
- BiggE

Yes, and to add insult to mediocrity that one playoff series win was under extenuating circumstances in which they ended up beating a team that wouldn't have even made the playoffs if not for the shutdown. And they were outplayed by them a good bit and very well may have lost if not for the stellar goaltending of one Carter Hart.

Can you explain why he’s now working for pitt as a gm? Certainly not perfect but saying he was horrible is like saying he’s on par with milbury.
- Hextall271

'They hope he learned from his mistakes, thats the best way to learn, and they brought in Burke to make sure he doesnt colossally screw it up.

'They hope he learned from his mistakes, thats the best way to learn, and they brought in Burke to make sure he doesnt colossally screw it up.
- bradster

You beat me to it. I was gonna say that they brought in Burke to babysit him. Pretty weird situation there.

He did do it well. He cleared up the cap situation, added draft picks and drafted a good number of talented NHL players. He was not allowed to finish his job. Now the team is positioned with older, aging and injured players, less draft picks and is mired in mediocrity while capped out under Dave Scott's great correction. What's next if this season doesn't turn out well? Give Fletcher more carte blanche?
- MJL

This is hyperbole.

Yup
Since 2012:
9 seasons
Missed the playoffs 5 times
Out in the first round 3 times
A grand total of one series win

Pathetic
- BiggE

Start with his hiring of a college coach. I myself didn't mind it at all. Turned out to be a mistake. He did a piss poor job managing the NHL club and the product on the ice shows this t be true. Look at the nh level players he acquired. Laughable overall.

He made some good draft picks. That is great. Hold a parade. He didn't do anything to stand out among his peers with his drafting in any way. Didn't acquire or draft any star/elite level player. Maybe Hart becomes one we shall see. But hey he did a very good job!!!

Also wasted the primes of 3 very good players (and several others) who he could have built around instead of wavering on the fence with his half ass "rebuild". You do not trade Schenn and keep others. That is treading water at best.

wasn't allowed to finish the job because he wasn't doing a good enough job.

He earned his firing. Saint Ronnie had them mired in mediocrity with no end in sight. Yeah he had a plan, get the phuck out of here..

Amazing the felating Saint Ronnie still gets from some
- hello it's me 2050

He did an awful job and that doesnt even speak to the behind the scenes shenanigans he was doing, with his spies, and locking out alumni. That went beyond everything that Schnider tried to do with this team. Hextall totally made it toxic

He did do it well. He cleared up the cap situation, added draft picks and drafted a good number of talented NHL players. He was not allowed to finish his job. Now the team is positioned with older, aging and injured players, less draft picks and is mired in mediocrity while capped out under Dave Scott's great correction. What's next if this season doesn't turn out well? Give Fletcher more carte blanche?
- MJL

He did an awful job and that doesnt even speak to the behind the scenes shenanigans he was doing, with his spies, and locking out alumni. That went beyond everything that Schnider tried to do with this team. Hextall totally made it toxic
- bradster

Hextall's biggest, hugest, most hurtful blunder was not listening to his scouts but instead drafting Nolan Patrick when you had Cale Makar or Miro Heiskanen sitting there, two top pairing defenseman that could have paired with Provorov and been the best pairing in the league! Think about it, if Hextall drafts Miro or Makar, there is not need for Yandle, no need to make a trade for Ellis, maybe even no need to make a trade for Risto. This one blunder pushed this franchise back a decade!

He did an awful job and that doesnt even speak to the behind the scenes shenanigans he was doing, with his spies, and locking out alumni. That went beyond everything that Schnider tried to do with this team. Hextall totally made it toxic
- bradster

I am just looking at the hockey side. Shame he turned out to be a tyrant no one liked

The spying was the best. Shocked murphy was ever able to get a job again knowing he is a rat fink.

Hextall's drafting record was just about in line with the draft positions. Average draft positions: average draft picks. We are no worse than what can be expected.

NO team that was put together this century has won the cup with a purely competitive rebuild without getting at least 1 huge difference maker from a top 5 pick (whcih means that season drafting deviated from competitive rebuild plan, either by luck or design) or huge trades.

If you don't get that difference maker with your first dip in that pool (NoPa), its as though you never dipped. You have to try again.

Boston did not do a competitive rebuild, at lest, not solely. They shook the tree like crazy and continuously shuffled key pieces and were willing to lose top notch players who did not fit the mold. Thornton, Kessels, Axellson, Primeau and many others I forget out. Chara, Horton, Paille, Seidenberg, and many others in.

Hextall's biggest, hugest, most hurtful blunder was not listening to his scouts but instead drafting Nolan Patrick when you had Cale Makar or Miro Heiskanen sitting there, two top pairing defenseman that could have paired with Provorov and been the best pairing in the league! Think about it, if Hextall drafts Miro or Makar, there is not need for Yandle, no need to make a trade for Ellis, maybe even no need to make a trade for Risto. This one blunder pushed this franchise back a decade!
- jd250

sigh

this little tidbit from the athletic today

@notmcleafer: Take the projected Team Canada forward roster, but with clones of Ristolainen on defence and Carter Hutton in goal. Would this team make the playoffs/what does their goal differential look like?
Attack of the clones!

First of all, let’s give Rasmus Ristolainen some credit for the season he’s having. His projected value has drastically improved to 0.2 wins thanks to a shockingly positive expected goals differential on a team that struggles to outchance opponents. He is … currently leading the Flyers defence in expected goals percentage. I know, I’m scared too — but a change in role and scenery has clearly helped him out a lot. We’ll see if it sticks.

The entire organization needs an enema, from Dave Scott down to the training staff.
- BiggE

It's the fans that need the enema, not the organization. The organization is very well run: it has done exceptionally well indeed in its by far primary objective:

https://twitter.com/Sport...48589847577473025/photo/1


Until fans stay away from mediocrity, tell me why a BUSINESS has any incentive to change mediocrity?

It's the fans that need the enema, not the organization. The organization is very well run: it has done exceptionally well indeed in its by far primary objective:

https://twitter.com/Sport...48589847577473025/photo/1


Until fans stay away from mediocrity, tell me why a BUSINESS has any incentive to change mediocrity?
- PT21

I agree. Fans are dopes and need to wise up. Only way real change comes is when the $$ stops flowing into the pockets.

They are a business. As long as it makes money they will not change. They laugh their asses off really.

He did do it well. He cleared up the cap situation, added draft picks and drafted a good number of talented NHL players. He was not allowed to finish his job. Now the team is positioned with older, aging and injured players, less draft picks and is mired in mediocrity while capped out under Dave Scott's great correction. What's next if this season doesn't turn out well? Give Fletcher more carte blanche?
- MJL

He did it well? What do we have to show for his efforts? Middling talent and a good goalie. Provys draft was stacked , I’ll give him the TK and Sanheim picks. Ton of misses. No center depth at all. The jvr signing...