sigh
- PT21

this was addressed in detail. the lack of critical thinking skills is woeful

I have zero problem him moving out ghost and bobby abreau. Though with Ghost they are seeing what he can do when coached properly.

Though he did not focus on the offense at all. Cliff Claven is right in that regard. He ignored it completely.
- hello it's me 2050

well moving Jake was right. But also woulda thought oskar would have a couple goals by now. Hayes being hurt.....but ya

Also needed to prioritze the D after watching myers run around like he had no idea what he was doing last year. Work from the goal out. If he can move Jvr out i will be astonished. Might be time to move on from Laughton also if he can get a good return.

First glance, those new Devils unis are horrible
- ClaudeFather

Worse than Dallas' third jerseys?

well moving Jake was right. But also woulda thought oskar would have a couple goals by now. Hayes being hurt.....but ya

Also needed to prioritze the D after watching myers run around like he had no idea what he was doing last year. Work from the goal out. If he can move Jvr out i will be astonished. Might be time to move on from Laughton also if he can get a good return.
- bradster

JVR will be a buy out candidate imo. Or a Ghost type deal next summer.

The time to move Laughton has passed. Major mistake imo. Could have received back a 1st imo.

Worse than Dallas' third jerseys?
- hockeylover

Yes? Kind of lol . Looks like a copy cat of one of the blackhawks outdoor jerseys

he was average. we were a cap team almost every year except for one under hex. one year picks were traded and you make it seem like we are doomed for forever now. used that cap space he had to sign jvr...right back to no space.....why? And to say he say he didn't get to finish his plan...ridiculous. every gm fired could claim the same. he had plenty of time....we are in the same position as 7 years ago.

his plan from him was to retool while staying competitive. for that he failed. a few years ago we were said to have one of the deepest prospect pools. well when they don't pan out where are we.....yes what you're selling is hyperbole.
- Peter Richards

How is it that you don't understand that moving the team from the cap position it was in when Hextall took over is a process and doesn't happen overnight. Hextall took the team and cleaned up the cap situation and built up the prospect base. That alone is 4-5 year process if you're lucky.
After he signed JVR, the Flyers still sat with 8M in cap space. It's speculation but in my opinion, he signed JVR to appease upper management.
Team management, which included Holmgren, lacked insight into the time it would take to clean things up and build the team back up from the position Holmgren himself put the team in. They were unprepared to see it through and to give Hextall the time needed. His plan did not fail, he wasn't given the chance to see it through. As I said in a previous post, Hextall's drafting gave the Flyers 5 quality players, as well as a number of other NHL players. The one real blemish is the Patrick pick which I don't fault him for selecting a consensus top 2 ranked players in the draft.

The only thing that has failed here is your effort to support that what I posted is hyperbole.

JVR will be a buy out candidate imo. Or a Ghost type deal next summer.

The time to move Laughton has passed. Major mistake imo. Could have received back a 1st imo.
- hello it's me 2050

we'll see how scotty is doing around the trade deadline. Might have an opportunity again.
Agree on JVR, probably a buyout, or just take what you can get. id throw in a pick to move him, but not a 1st.

Worse than Dallas' third jerseys?
- hockeylover

I would say no because that Dallas green is hideous.

But these are really bad, too.


https://twitter.com/GTAC1...res-about-newark-bulldogs

https://twitter.com/GTAC1...res-about-newark-bulldogs

Exactly.

Would you blame a business for making money? I don't understand this Dave Scott hate. He acted like a corporate stooge. HULLO PEOPLE! that is exactly what his role is, and even what his aim is!


- PT21

Dave Scott should stay out of the hockey decisions. He has no expertise in that area.

The rest of your post was inappropriate for hockeybuzz and was just an excuse for you to post on your political agenda.

The jury is still out on Farabee. Last season was not real. Same as I didn’t count it for Hart.
- ClaudeFather

I agree that the jury is still out but a 20 goal season is a 20 goal season. Hart looks like a top 5 NHL goalie right now.

How is it that you don't understand that moving the team from the cap position it was in when Hextall took over is a process and doesn't happen overnight. Hextall took the team and cleaned up the cap situation and built up the prospect base. That alone is 4-5 year process if you're lucky.
After he signed JVR, the Flyers still sat with 8M in cap space. It's speculation but in my opinion, he signed JVR to appease upper management.
Team management, which included Holmgren, lacked insight into the time it would take to clean things up and build the team back up from the position Holmgren himself put the team in. They were unprepared to see it through and to give Hextall the time needed. His plan did not fail, he wasn't given the chance to see it through. As I said in a previous post, Hextall's drafting gave the Flyers 5 quality players, as well as a number of other NHL players. The one real blemish is the Patrick pick which I don't fault him for selecting a consensus top 2 ranked players in the draft.

The only thing that has failed here is your effort to support that what I posted is hyperbole.
- MJL

blah blah blah, there is no defending his ineptitude. Try all you want, no one is buying what you're selling......as usual....
"5 quality players"........8 first round draft picks. Your version of doing well and mine are 2 different things.

I would say no because that Dallas green is hideous.

But these are really bad, too.


https://twitter.com/GTAC1...res-about-newark-bulldogs

https://twitter.com/GTAC1...res-about-newark-bulldogs
- Scoob

Yeah, they are bad. Wow.

How is it that you don't understand that moving the team from the cap position it was in when Hextall took over is a process and doesn't happen overnight. Hextall took the team and cleaned up the cap situation and built up the prospect base. That alone is 4-5 year process if you're lucky.
After he signed JVR, the Flyers still sat with 8M in cap space. It's speculation but in my opinion, he signed JVR to appease upper management.
Team management, which included Holmgren, lacked insight into the time it would take to clean things up and build the team back up from the position Holmgren himself put the team in. They were unprepared to see it through and to give Hextall the time needed. His plan did not fail, he wasn't given the chance to see it through. As I said in a previous post, Hextall's drafting gave the Flyers 5 quality players, as well as a number of other NHL players. The one real blemish is the Patrick pick which I don't fault him for selecting a consensus top 2 ranked players in the draft.

The only thing that has failed here is your effort to support that what I posted is hyperbole.
- MJL

This cap space that Saint Ronnie allegedly created is a falsehood when you look at the RFA that needs to be signed.

Always an excuse for Saint Ronnie. He failed. Accept it. He had no plan. Oh my bad draft and develop. Then pray and hope your picks hit. The same plan for every team. What a brand new concept he created. Wasn't give a chance is a total crock of fn schit.

Doesn't happen overnight. So can this be applied to the current GM?

we'll see how scotty is doing around the trade deadline. Might have an opportunity again.
Agree on JVR, probably a buyout, or just take what you can get. id throw in a pick to move him, but not a 1st.
- bradster

He has like 10 points in his last 50 games. That isn't worth a long term deal for 3 million per. He needs to pick it up big time for any team to even consider trading for him.

Also the GM loves him so.....

I agree that the jury is still out but a 20 goal season is a 20 goal season. Hart looks like a top 5 NHL goalie right now.
- MJL

He will be 60+ point player this season right?

Dave Scott should stay out of the hockey decisions. He has no expertise in that area.

The rest of your post was inappropriate for hockeybuzz and was just an excuse for you to post on your political agenda.
- MJL

On the contrary, it provided a precise economic and institutional reason for the sports stagnancy discussed on a forum today called hold your breath... Hockeybuzz,

Once the semblance,
Of a cerebellum,
sprouts inside,
that thick-walled cranium

Then you will see
that the relation
you find irrelevant
is actually essential.

😘

On the contrary, it provided a precise economic and institutional reason for the sports stagnancy discussed on a forum today called hold your breath... Hockeybuzz,

Once the semblance,
Of a cerebellum,
sprouts inside,
that thick-walled cranium

Then you will see
that the relation
you find irrelevant
is actually essential.

😘
- PT21

It was inappropriate.

psycho killer
- hello it's me 2050

Kiss-cool-say...

yeah, this site is a well-oiled machine
- THE BLACK HAND

Is that the excuse we're now supposed to make whenever we spill our bourbon on our keyboards?

The Asst. GM's comments regarding Frost and York:

Flyers prospects Morgan Frost and Cam York are progressing, but there’s no rush to call them up, says assistant GM

“He’s got the great hands and he can make cute plays, but you don’t have time and space at the NHL level to be able to make those plays unless you move your feet and play fast,” Flahr said. “That’s the biggest challenge for him right now.”

Flahr likes what he has seen from Frost recently, “but it’s a work in progress. He measures himself on points — I think any offensive player does — and obviously, a lot of the media and fans do, too,” Flahr said. “And that’s fine, but, unfortunately, in order to play at the NHL level, a lot of the details are where his game needs to improve.”

--------------------

Asked if he saw Frost or York joining the Flyers in a month or so, Flahr said, “I don’t think there’s any rush. These guys are so important to our future, and you have to make sure you’re doing it right. The last thing you want to do with these guys is put them on yo-yos. Every time you do that, it really hurts them in the long term.

“You may have a couple good games, and you read about how good you are, and then all of a sudden, your play falls off, and it takes a month and a half or two months to get them back [to playing well] when they get sent back down again.”​


https://www.inquirer.com/...ntoms-flahr-20211123.html

this was addressed in detail. the lack of critical thinking skills is woeful
- THE BLACK HAND

I don't understand why some cannot understand that there was a 'consensus against' any player he could have picked: including makar and miro, based on what Bill said.

On the contrary, it provided a precise economic and institutional reason for the sports stagnancy discussed on a forum today called hold your breath... Hockeybuzz,

Once the semblance,
Of a cerebellum,
sprouts inside,
that thick-walled cranium

Then you will see
that the relation
you find irrelevant
is actually essential.

😘
- PT21

Now I guess I'll have to tell 'em
That I got no cerebellum
Gonna get my Ph.D.
I'm a teenage lobotomy, yeah

Hextall was a good gm on tuesdays and wednesdays but had a trouble on Saturdays and fridays.
Clifford sucks during the summer solstice while he is Yoda during the winter solstice. He too has trouble on Saturdays.

WTF this Gm discussion is riveting.

Now I guess I'll have to tell 'em
That I got no cerebellum
Gonna get my Ph.D.
I'm a teenage lobotomy, yeah
- hello it's me 2050

You don't have to tell me
I got eyes, I can see
you already got that degree
in jaded ole skool bigotry.

How is it that you don't understand that moving the team from the cap position it was in when Hextall took over is a process and doesn't happen overnight. Hextall took the team and cleaned up the cap situation and built up the prospect base. That alone is 4-5 year process if you're lucky.
After he signed JVR, the Flyers still sat with 8M in cap space. It's speculation but in my opinion, he signed JVR to appease upper management.
Team management, which included Holmgren, lacked insight into the time it would take to clean things up and build the team back up from the position Holmgren himself put the team in. They were unprepared to see it through and to give Hextall the time needed. His plan did not fail, he wasn't given the chance to see it through. As I said in a previous post, Hextall's drafting gave the Flyers 5 quality players, as well as a number of other NHL players. The one real blemish is the Patrick pick which I don't fault him for selecting a consensus top 2 ranked players in the draft.

The only thing that has failed here is your effort to support that what I posted is hyperbole.
- MJL

The year he signed jvr the reason there was cap space at the end of the year was due to trades and waiving players like Jori. the rest of what you provided is opinion. Doesn't matter what the speculation was. he signed JVR...an aging player to a multi year contract. wasting a lot of the cap space he created. the needle was not moving.

how fast did the rangers or boston complete their retooling?