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PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Nov 23 @ 12:07 PM ET
I ain't got no respect
For people that are politically correct
They say that we got rights and we need em
But there taken away all of our freedom

- hello it's me 2050


would your life truly be free
if stoopid libruls just stopped talking about CRT?
is that all that really stood
between you now and your dreams in the hood?

if you ever wanna get angry,
then homey, follow the money
its ain't left, it ain't right, and stuff thats PC
only blinds losers from reality

on that note I say this
i teach a class in a few minnits
till we meet again, open yur mind
improve your thinkin', work on that jive.














Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Nov 23 @ 12:08 PM ET
actually you need to look at how they ended the year with how much cap space they had no? As that is what you have to spend once the off season starts ?
- hello it's me 2050


The cap to end the season, with cap space does not include future extensions or ufas does it?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 23 @ 12:09 PM ET
would your life truly be free
if stoopid libruls just stopped talking about CRT?
is that all that really stood
between you now and your dreams in the hood?

if you ever wanna get angry,
then homey, follow the money
its ain't left, it ain't right, and stuff thats PC
only blinds losers from reality

on that note I say this
i teach a class in a few minnits
till we meet again, open yur mind
improve your thinkin', work on that jive.

- PT21

Wake up everybody no more sleepin in bed
No more backward thinkin time for thinkin ahead
The world has changed so very much
From what it used to be so
There is so much hatred war an' poverty
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Nov 23 @ 12:09 PM ET
So now we’re reduced to arguing adjectives. Fine but saying he did it well. Or a very good job. No. He was average.

But good to know that very good is not equivalent to great…….lol sure thing. Keep spinning.

- Peter Richards

At the very least he alludes to it constantly.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Nov 23 @ 12:11 PM ET
At the very least he alludes to it constantly.
- bradster


Exactly. He’s just reaching now
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Nov 23 @ 12:12 PM ET
So now we’re reduced to arguing adjectives. Fine but saying he did it well. Or a very good job. No. He was average.

But good to know that very good is not equivalent to great…….lol sure thing. Keep spinning.

- Peter Richards


I can live with him being average, but when you are average when your goal is to restock the prospects while other GMs were trying to win the cup. You are average compared to them........, that is a huge failure
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Nov 23 @ 12:13 PM ET
Right now all he has to show for it are Ivan Sanheim Hart Joel and TK. That is it. The rest is just white noise at this point.

5 players. What a very good job he has done. Get the phuck out of here.

edit: 5 players

- hello it's me 2050

Sanheim is OK, but not driving the team by any means. TK is a top 9 forward but has not demonstrated to me that he is a consistently good top 6 forward. Hard not to draft a good player with the 7th overall pick in a very deep draft. Overall, Hextall did not do a good job, and we all know it because of his blunders that have resulted in the team we currently have.
konalover711
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PHX, AZ
Joined: 10.20.2015

Nov 23 @ 12:16 PM ET
It will never change here until the Flyers stop sucking again.
- Bendecko

It is a constant stream of looking up a dead dog's A$$, with this whole GM disertation.

The team is below average. It took a village to get to this level of suck.
A village will be needed to change.
I like Santa's....cause that's what kind of fantasy we will need to sniff a Cup any year soon.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 23 @ 12:17 PM ET
So now we’re reduced to arguing adjectives. Fine but saying he did it well. Or a very good job. No. He was average.

But good to know that very good is not equivalent to great…….lol sure thing. Keep spinning.

- Peter Richards


Like I said, you can disagree with my opinion but that's not what you did. I challenged you to show how what I said was hyperbole. You failed to do and in the end responded with hyperbole. I gave simple facts. There is no spin provided. You are the person reducing the argument to nonsense and exposing your true agenda.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 23 @ 12:24 PM ET
Sanheim is OK, but not driving the team by any means. TK is a top 9 forward but has not demonstrated to me that he is a consistently good top 6 forward. Hard not to draft a good player with the 7th overall pick in a very deep draft. Overall, Hextall did not do a good job, and we all know it because of his blunders that have resulted in the team we currently have.
- jd250


I agree that Sanheim is not driving the team but he has still developed into a top 4 NHL defenseman. So how is that not a hit with a 1st round pick?
Konecny showed a steady growth as a player including leading the team in scoring in 19/20. He has 3 24 goal seasons under his belt. How is that not a hit?
If some can criticize Hextall for not hitting with a 2nd round pick than is it no fair to give him credit for a successful use of a 7th overall pick? That's what guys like you do. Apply a different standard and contradict yourself.

The majority of the future of this team currently is due to Hextall. Actually the team that we currently have is mostly due to the impatience of the organization.

I'll also remind you that you were a guy who was lauding the off season moves of that the team made. You raved on and on about the moves. Now you're admitting that the team isn't good? Remember is not that long ago when you were touting their record. What happened?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 23 @ 12:25 PM ET
Like I said, you can disagree with my opinion but that's not what you did. I challenged you to show how what I said was hyperbole. You failed to do and in the end responded with hyperbole. I gave simple facts. There is no spin provided. You are the person reducing the argument to nonsense and exposing your true agenda.
- MJL

Like Saint Ronnie did a very good job. Go remodel your parents basement.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Nov 23 @ 12:27 PM ET
Like I said, you can disagree with my opinion but that's not what you did. I challenged you to show how what I said was hyperbole. You failed to do and in the end responded with hyperbole. I gave simple facts. There is no spin provided. You are the person reducing the argument to nonsense and exposing your true agenda.
- MJL


lol..you're delusional and trying to change the focus. as you said it's your opinion. i supplied facts.





Bendecko
Location: Cave Putorium
Joined: 02.29.2020

Nov 23 @ 12:28 PM ET
I guess Bill gave up on the too haha
- ClaudeFather

Can't blame him for not Buzzting.

He needs to pay attention to his professional obligations first and foremost.

With the economy these days:



Meanwhile, here's his morning's 5-Things article:
https://www.nhl.com/flyer...elphia-flyers/c-328254114
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 23 @ 12:28 PM ET
I agree that Sanheim is not driving the team but he has still developed into a top 4 NHL defenseman. So how is that not a hit with a 1st round pick?
Konecny showed a steady growth as a player including leading the team in scoring in 19/20. He has 3 24 goal seasons under his belt. How is that not a hit?
If some can criticize Hextall for not hitting with a 2nd round pick than is it no fair to give him credit for a successful use of a 7th overall pick? That's what guys like you do. Apply a different standard and contradict yourself.

The majority of the future of this team currently is due to Hextall. Actually the team that we currently have is mostly due to the impatience of the organization.

I'll also remind you that you were a guy who was lauding the off season moves of that the team made. You raved on and on about the moves. Now you're admitting that the team isn't good? Remember is not that long ago when you were touting their record. What happened?

- MJL

Is he a top 4 on a contending team? Look at the last 5 final 4 teams. Where would he slot on those teams?

The future of this team is bleak. That is due to Saint Ronnie. No the team currently is due to Saint Ronnie not doing his job better.
konalover711
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PHX, AZ
Joined: 10.20.2015

Nov 23 @ 12:32 PM ET
I agree that Sanheim is not driving the team but he has still developed into a top 4 NHL defenseman. So how is that not a hit with a 1st round pick?
Konecny showed a steady growth as a player including leading the team in scoring in 19/20. He has 3 24 goal seasons under his belt. How is that not a hit?
If some can criticize Hextall for not hitting with a 2nd round pick than is it no fair to give him credit for a successful use of a 7th overall pick? That's what guys like you do. Apply a different standard and contradict yourself.

The majority of the future of this team currently is due to Hextall. Actually the team that we currently have is mostly due to the impatience of the organization.

I'll also remind you that you were a guy who was lauding the off season moves of that the team made. You raved on and on about the moves. Now you're admitting that the team isn't good? Remember is not that long ago when you were touting their record. What happened?

- MJL

Who cares!!!
You win man change the phucking subject
Ronnie won us a cup end of story!
You're phucking ponderous!
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 23 @ 12:35 PM ET
Who cares!!!
You win man change the phucking subject
Ronnie won us a cup end of story!
You're phucking ponderous!

- konalover711

I miss Ponderosa steakhouse...
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Nov 23 @ 12:54 PM ET
[quote=MJL]I agree that Sanheim is not driving the team but he has still developed into a top 4 NHL defenseman. So how is that not a hit with a 1st round pick?
Konecny showed a steady growth as a player including leading the team in scoring in 19/20. He has 3 24 goal seasons under his belt. How is that not a hit?
If some can criticize Hextall for not hitting with a 2nd round pick than is it no fair to give him credit for a successful use of a 7th overall pick? That's what guys like you do. Apply a different standard and contradict yourself.



Its expectations. I expect a top 10 pick to be good. You want to give ronnie credit for hitting on a top 10 pick. Big difference.

I'll give Ronnie credit for Hart falling to him in the 2nd round. I'll give him credit for TK too, trading up to grab him. TK is solid but always leaves me wanting a little more.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 23 @ 1:00 PM ET
[quote=MJL]I agree that Sanheim is not driving the team but he has still developed into a top 4 NHL defenseman. So how is that not a hit with a 1st round pick?
Konecny showed a steady growth as a player including leading the team in scoring in 19/20. He has 3 24 goal seasons under his belt. How is that not a hit?
If some can criticize Hextall for not hitting with a 2nd round pick than is it no fair to give him credit for a successful use of a 7th overall pick? That's what guys like you do. Apply a different standard and contradict yourself.



Its expectations. I expect a top 10 pick to be good. You want to give ronnie credit for hitting on a top 10 pick. Big difference.

I'll give Ronnie credit for Hart falling to him in the 2nd round. I'll give him credit for TK too, trading up to grab him. TK is solid but always leaves me wanting a little more.

- bradster


hart was luck,,,,otherwise why not draft him earlier like cliff likes to say
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Nov 23 @ 1:04 PM ET
Hawaiian punch or Tahitian treat?
- hello it's me 2050


Tahitian treat
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Nov 23 @ 1:05 PM ET
I miss Ponderosa steakhouse...
- hello it's me 2050


https://pon-bon.com/
jaws1955
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Blairstown, NJ
Joined: 12.30.2015

Nov 23 @ 1:09 PM ET

- Phillywhiteout

Interesting band. I have a buddy from north Jersey had a band back in the 70s. Opened for Talking Heads around 1976. I was the road crew. We partied with them all night. That was before their first album. Strange group.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 23 @ 1:32 PM ET
lol..you're delusional and trying to change the focus. as you said it's your opinion. i supplied facts.
- Peter Richards


LOL. It couldn't be more clear what you're attempting to do. Hey if you don't want to have an adult conversation, I'll just add you to the list.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Nov 23 @ 1:37 PM ET
[quote=MJL]I agree that Sanheim is not driving the team but he has still developed into a top 4 NHL defenseman. So how is that not a hit with a 1st round pick?
Konecny showed a steady growth as a player including leading the team in scoring in 19/20. He has 3 24 goal seasons under his belt. How is that not a hit?
If some can criticize Hextall for not hitting with a 2nd round pick than is it no fair to give him credit for a successful use of a 7th overall pick? That's what guys like you do. Apply a different standard and contradict yourself.



Its expectations. I expect a top 10 pick to be good. You want to give ronnie credit for hitting on a top 10 pick. Big difference.

I'll give Ronnie credit for Hart falling to him in the 2nd round. I'll give him credit for TK too, trading up to grab him. TK is solid but always leaves me wanting a little more.

- bradster



This is a good point.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Nov 23 @ 1:38 PM ET
I agree that Sanheim is not driving the team but he has still developed into a top 4 NHL defenseman. So how is that not a hit with a 1st round pick?
Konecny showed a steady growth as a player including leading the team in scoring in 19/20. He has 3 24 goal seasons under his belt. How is that not a hit?
If some can criticize Hextall for not hitting with a 2nd round pick than is it no fair to give him credit for a successful use of a 7th overall pick? That's what guys like you do. Apply a different standard and contradict yourself.

The majority of the future of this team currently is due to Hextall. Actually the team that we currently have is mostly due to the impatience of the organization.

I'll also remind you that you were a guy who was lauding the off season moves of that the team made. You raved on and on about the moves. Now you're admitting that the team isn't good? Remember is not that long ago when you were touting their record. What happened?

- MJL

Wait .. I never said the team is not good, what I said is the injuries to Ellis and Hayes have really paid a toll on this team and their forward depth is not good enough, especially a center. Hextall's 5 years of drafting tons of players have not made this better, in fact its responsible for the state the team is in. Fletcher had to sign Hayes to a stupid contract because Hextall missed on Patrick. Fletcher had to trade for Ellis and Risto because Hextall did not draft and develop enough defenseman to fill in the holes on the team, including bottom pairing roles. Fletcher had to sign Thompson and Brassard, and pick up Brown and MacEwen on waivers because Hextall failed to even draft forwards that could fill in the bottom 6! These are facts, these are not opinions. Yes Hextall drafted Hart, Provorov, Sanheim, Farabee and TK, all good to very good players. But in 5 drafts, is this enough? I say honestly ... NO!
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Nov 23 @ 1:44 PM ET
LOL. It couldn't be more clear what you're attempting to do. Hey if you don't want to have an adult conversation, I'll just add you to the list.
- MJL


Please explain. I laid out facts why hex was an average gm.

You then come back with the I never said he was great…… stating it was you’re opinion but that very good is not equivalent to great. Sure thing man. I supplied facts. You acknowledge speculation and opinion on your part.

Get back ti the point instead of changing the subject or trying to spin a semantics argument.

Your bias is overwhelmingly evident.
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