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hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 24 @ 10:15 AM ET
You know, I hate your guts and wouldnt care if horrible things happened to you but ill give you credit for this post
- THE BLACK HAND

big yawn king kenso
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 24 @ 10:15 AM ET
When will the List be posted? I would like to see it.
- hello it's me 2050

What is this list
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Nov 24 @ 10:16 AM ET
It’s time for g to move back to center for a bit imo.

hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 24 @ 10:17 AM ET
Only problem with that is... usually teams would name an interim. We don't want CF hiring another coach before he gets fired.

There's no Scott Gordon to step in anymore. There's only Lappy lol.

- Tomahawk

holmgren - interim GM and coach!!!

or make CC the player coach. would be fitting.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 24 @ 10:18 AM ET
What is this list
- ClaudeFather

The list that Cliff Claven keeps.
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Nov 24 @ 10:19 AM ET
If AV were to get fired i'd bet even money that Yeo would be the interim.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Nov 24 @ 10:22 AM ET
It's way too early to be pulling any plugs. Lot of season left, stranger things have happened, yada yada yada.

But... we know this is a team with some fundamental flaws. The issues with own-zone coverage last season, their lack of goal scoring, the PP, etc... they are all symptomatic of not having the puck enough, not taking care of the puck, not playing with enough structure and support.

Throw more talent at this thing, more shooters, more defenders, and it's not gonna fix a damned thing until they get on the right/same page.

- Tomahawk


I thought this was supposed to be fixed with practice time. The team still looks slow as well. And can’t keep pace with others. When a pick is in open ice. Always seems like we only have one or two players that can skate to get there.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Nov 24 @ 10:22 AM ET
holmgren - interim GM and coach!!!

or make CC the player coach. would be fitting.

- hello it's me 2050


Wonder what cote is up too. Lol
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Nov 24 @ 10:26 AM ET
Shuffle the whole deck

Oscar coots Atkinson
Jvr Scott. Tk
Bee. G. Mac.
Will Thompson ??


We all think it’ll be frost. Watch us all be fooled.


And didn’t look. Any update on brass or if anyone was recalled.
RajaAmpat
Joined: 12.16.2018

Nov 24 @ 10:29 AM ET
Little bit of historical coaching saga stuff ( elsewhere)

Can you name the franchises in modern times where the coaches were replaced mid-season or a little later and went on to win the Cup that year..

off the top of my head

Pittsburgh 09-- Blysma replacing ( barf) Therrien
NJ 2000 Larry Robinson replacing Robbie Ftorek ??
Craig Berube- Blues 2019
Daryl Sutter 2012 Kings ( after Terry Murray and interim John Stevens)
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Nov 24 @ 10:33 AM ET
So Brassard was injured last night.... who is the slug that replaces him now? Just ensures Thompson will keep playing night after night.... Dumpster fire.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Nov 24 @ 10:38 AM ET
ALL teams go through bad stretches, it is time for the Flyers to man up and show they are better than they were last year. Injuries and all, Fxck the excuses, man up.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 24 @ 10:38 AM ET
It's way too early to be pulling any plugs. Lot of season left, stranger things have happened, yada yada yada.

But... we know this is a team with some fundamental flaws. The issues with own-zone coverage last season, their lack of goal scoring, the PP, etc... they are all symptomatic of not having the puck enough, not taking care of the puck, not playing with enough structure and support.

Throw more talent at this thing, more shooters, more defenders, and it's not gonna fix a damned thing until they get on the right/same page.

- Tomahawk


Not sure about that. I still believe with the right structure and coaching and getting the injured players back, they can improve drastically and make the playoffs. I still don't think they have the right mix of players to be a contender and still don't agree with the direction the team has taken. If they don't get the ship righted quickly, it could be all over
Bendecko
Location: Cave Putorium
Joined: 02.29.2020

Nov 24 @ 10:46 AM ET
Don't worry. Fletcher changed the culture of the team this past off season. That is going to kick in any minute now. Last night's lack of compete was just a bump in the road. The lack of goal scoring and poor PP is just a little mini offensive slump.
- MJL

Careful! You're mixing up your StepfordSam account with this account.
Bendecko
Location: Cave Putorium
Joined: 02.29.2020

Nov 24 @ 10:46 AM ET
Completely delusional to think Giroux gets traded. So the GM maxed out the credit card only to sell at the trade deadline? If that's what you think you haven't been paying attention.
- StepfordSam

Careful! You're mixing up your MJL account with this account.
Fopa21
Joined: 05.12.2021

Nov 24 @ 10:47 AM ET
Not sure about that. I still believe with the right structure and coaching and getting the injured players back, they can improve drastically and make the playoffs. I still don't think they have the right mix of players to be a contender and still don't agree with the direction the team has taken. If they don't get the ship righted quickly, it could be all over
- MJL


Keep telling yourself it’s the coaching
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 24 @ 10:50 AM ET
Careful! You're mixing up your StepfordSam account with this account.

- Bendecko


Hey, that battle is between you and PT21.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Nov 24 @ 10:51 AM ET
If AV were to get fired i'd bet even money that Yeo would be the interim.
- StepfordSam


Yeah. Would make sense. Also won’t happen til at least x mad time.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 24 @ 10:51 AM ET
Keep telling yourself it’s the coaching
- Fopa21

it is a cumulative effort of failure across the board. Coaching is just 1 piss poor aspect.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 24 @ 10:53 AM ET
Firing Vigneault and naming Yeo the head coach would be a waste of time in my opinion. Need someone from the outside. I believe the Flyers struggle to play Vigneault's overload system.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 24 @ 10:55 AM ET
Little bit of historical coaching saga stuff ( elsewhere)

Can you name the franchises in modern times where the coaches were replaced mid-season or a little later and went on to win the Cup that year..

off the top of my head

Pittsburgh 09-- Blysma replacing ( barf) Therrien
NJ 2000 Larry Robinson replacing Robbie Ftorek ??
Craig Berube- Blues 2019
Daryl Sutter 2012 Kings ( after Terry Murray and interim John Stevens)

- RajaAmpat


This is not a Stanley Cup team with any coach. They need to turn around the stagnation.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Nov 24 @ 10:56 AM ET
This is not a Stanley Cup team with any coach. They need to turn around the stagnation.
- MJL


Same was said about St. Louis.
Joe Nardone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Medicine Hat
Joined: 07.05.2018

Nov 24 @ 10:56 AM ET
Not sure about that. I still believe with the right structure and coaching and getting the injured players back, they can improve drastically and make the playoffs. I still don't think they have the right mix of players to be a contender and still don't agree with the direction the team has taken. If they don't get the ship righted quickly, it could be all over
- MJL


I would agree w that. I would have tanked AV after last year. The Flyers just laid down towards the tail end of last year w 0 fight. They got destroyed by NYR at home down 5, 6, 7 goals and no one seemed to care.

Miss the playoffs or not, the way they played while still in contention was a disgrace. Sh8t after that 2nd ranger blowout that would have been it for me.

Even when they are playing well (2 years ago) they just don’t posses the puck enough. They still look bad. I just don’t see it with AV.

And can someone explain to me why JVR is not parking in front while Prov fires wrist shots on the pp? Seems to be a pretty basic pp strategy. JVRs hands did not magically disappear over the summer.


Fopa21
Joined: 05.12.2021

Nov 24 @ 11:00 AM ET
This is not a Stanley Cup team with any coach. They need to turn around the stagnation.
- MJL


How can you continuously talk about stagnation yet defend captain stagnation after multiple coaches, gms, & roster shuffles. Walks like a duck & talks like a duck it must be a red headed duck
Bendecko
Location: Cave Putorium
Joined: 02.29.2020

Nov 24 @ 11:03 AM ET
Hey, that battle is between you and PT21.
- MJL

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