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hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 23 @ 2:23 PM ET
Yup, and he may only be in the lineup due to injury. Complainers got to complain
- bradster

Nate is in the lineup because AV wants him there, injuries or not. Amazes me people think otherwise.
Bendecko
Location: Cave Putorium
Joined: 02.29.2020

Nov 23 @ 2:26 PM ET
Hayes & Ellis being re-injured in their first game back is an awful look, and certainly not bad luck or coincidence. Just ridiculous.
- PLindbergh31

Was it the first game back for both?

You gotta pay attention to detail. I know exactly when in the season they were injured and I know exactly how many games they've played upon their return 'cause I pay attention to detail.

···
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Nov 23 @ 2:26 PM ET
Nate is in the lineup because AV wants him there, injuries or not. Amazes me people think otherwise.
- hello it's me 2050


you may be right. But i want to think with hayes and allison in the lineup, Nate would be sitting. But we may never have a full healthy roster to find out.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Nov 23 @ 2:31 PM ET
Let me know when they get to the level of being the best in the league. You badly missed the point.
- MJL

But that my point, they were not just a bad team last year, they were a laughing stock! It takes time to rebuild from that. This off-season was just a step towards building a better team. Unfortunately we have yet to experience what level this team is capable of because of key injuries. But even when Ellis and Hayes come back, this team may not have enough to contend for a cup. But they will be better and would have taken a step in the right direction. Hopefully when this season is over, more will be learned and then actions will be taken that constitute another step forward. The team is not going to blow it up, they will continue to build on the fly. Thus we just have to hope Fletcher makes the right decisions moving forward.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Nov 23 @ 2:33 PM ET
If and when Hayes comes back, I would prefer Brassard at 4C over Thompson. I also hope that maybe Allison can get back, maybe have some rehab time in the AHL and then come up and play with Brassard. Maybe with McEwen, that could make an improved 4th line.
- MJL

Maybe, but if the Flyers top 6 are not scoring, it really doesn't matter ...
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Nov 23 @ 2:33 PM ET
I said Tampa is playing their 3rd game in four nights.
- bmeltzer


I know you did -- my point is if the Flyers lose to Tampa, who is playing for the third time in four nights does that take away the constant excuses that are given that 3 in four, 4 or in six etc..
konalover711
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PHX, AZ
Joined: 10.20.2015

Nov 23 @ 2:33 PM ET
Was it the first game back for both?

You gotta pay attention to detail. I know exactly when in the season they were injured and I know exactly how many games they've played upon their return 'cause I pay attention to detail.

···

- Bendecko

Ellis was at the 46 minute and 36 second mark of game one back

Hayes was 93 minutes and 42 seconds.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 23 @ 2:34 PM ET
Evander Kane due back 11/30. Straight up for JVR. Make it happen Chuck.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Nov 23 @ 2:35 PM ET
you may be right. But i want to think with hayes and allison in the lineup, Nate would be sitting. But we may never have a full healthy roster to find out.
- bradster

I would not my breath on Allison, high ankle sprains are tough to gauge and come back from ... bummer for him but big bummer for the team this year, we really need his secondary scoring.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Nov 23 @ 2:40 PM ET
I would not my breath on Allison, high ankle sprains are tough to gauge and come back from ... bummer for him but big bummer for the team this year, we really need his secondary scoring.
- jd250


He’s practicing with Phantoms today
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Nov 23 @ 2:42 PM ET
But that my point, they were not just a bad team last year, they were a laughing stock! It takes time to rebuild from that. This off-season was just a step towards building a better team. Unfortunately we have yet to experience what level this team is capable of because of key injuries. But even when Ellis and Hayes come back, this team may not have enough to contend for a cup. But they will be better and would have taken a step in the right direction. Hopefully when this season is over, more will be learned and then actions will be taken that constitute another step forward. The team is not going to blow it up, they will continue to build on the fly. Thus we just have to hope Fletcher makes the right decisions moving forward.
- jd250


you know he is only saying he expects a deep playoff run in order to criticize chuck. He is just setting it up. Hard to go from dumpster fire to 2nd or 3rd round of the playoffs, but if you can take a big step forward would help. D has played considerably better this year, along with goalie.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Nov 23 @ 2:43 PM ET
Nate is in the lineup because AV wants him there, injuries or not. Amazes me people think otherwise.
- hello it's me 2050


Yeah, let's see him be healthy scratched once before anyone argues otherwise.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Nov 23 @ 2:45 PM ET
Evander Kane due back 11/30. Straight up for JVR. Make it happen Chuck.
- hello it's me 2050

bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Nov 23 @ 2:45 PM ET
I would not my breath on Allison, high ankle sprains are tough to gauge and come back from ... bummer for him but big bummer for the team this year, we really need his secondary scoring.
- jd250


He's practicing today with the phantoms
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Nov 23 @ 2:45 PM ET
Evander Kane due back 11/30. Straight up for JVR. Make it happen Chuck.
- hello it's me 2050

StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Nov 23 @ 2:47 PM ET
Evander Kane due back 11/30. Straight up for JVR. Make it happen Chuck.
- hello it's me 2050


Is your Perkins breakfast disagreeing with you today?
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Nov 23 @ 2:48 PM ET
Yup and you can thank Dave Scott, it’s on him.
- BiggE


Bendecko
Location: Cave Putorium
Joined: 02.29.2020

Nov 23 @ 2:55 PM ET
Ellis was at the 46 minute and 36 second mark of game one back

Hayes was 93 minutes and 42 seconds.

- konalover711

Hayes played 2 games this season: Nov 13 @ Dallas and Nov 16 against the Flames in Philly.

Just pointing out how some like to alter the facts just to suit their narrative around here, even though this particular detail in this instance is for all intensive purposes intents and purposes just a trifling matter to some.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 23 @ 2:56 PM ET
Is your Perkins breakfast disagreeing with you today?
- StepfordSam

No. Love Evander Kane. Would address the scoring woes.
Bendecko
Location: Cave Putorium
Joined: 02.29.2020

Nov 23 @ 2:59 PM ET
Is your Perkins breakfast disagreeing with you today?
- StepfordSam



No, just possibly the waitress(es). I'm guessing he's no Tiger Woods, like the most of us.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Nov 23 @ 3:01 PM ET
No. Love Evander Kane. Would address the scoring woes.
- hello it's me 2050

he has a 3 team trade list. But it could be interesting. Dont love him having 4 seasons left on the contract, maybe you could get SJ to eat $1M of it? But he can score and is physical
Nh_kong
Joined: 09.21.2020

Nov 23 @ 3:02 PM ET
Evander Kane due back 11/30. Straight up for JVR. Make it happen Chuck.
- hello it's me 2050


I'd make that trade in a heartbeat.

Kane is a bad dude with a bad reputation. JVR is soft and streaky.


Both are gonna get their goals, and both are going going to cause you headaches and heartaches. I'll take guy who likes to smash skulls and stick up for his teammates if those are the options.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 23 @ 3:03 PM ET
he has a 3 team trade list. But it could be interesting. Dont love him having 4 seasons left on the contract, maybe you could get SJ to eat $1M of it? But he can score and is physical
- bradster

be funny as hell if flyers were on that list.

Really depends how desperate San Jose is and how true the rumors are that circulate.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 23 @ 3:03 PM ET
Well. This is different than the conversation we had this summer. Before we signed brassard. I said I would take brass over Nate. You ridiculed this. When not on my phone and on a computer I will look. Happened two or three days before we signed brassard. Was the start of you saying he was washed as a player. You continued to ask me what team brass was playing on.

So yes. This is a different response from before.

Looking, does anyone know how to look up old posts? i could only go back so far.

- Peter Richards


You have the conversation inaccurately. It was not a conversation about Brassard over Thompson. It was about Brassard as a top 9 center option. I replied he was washed up and I was not interested in him as a center in the top 9. Not when they had Couturier, Hayes, Laughton and Frost was still a possibility at that point.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Nov 23 @ 3:09 PM ET
going to the game tomorrow night, while I would normally take winning 1 out of 2, we are going to need to win tonight and at least get a point tomorrow. If the Flyers get worked in SFL, my buddies at the game will be unbearable.
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