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Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Nov 25 @ 8:50 AM ET
The Flyers are just a slow team full of inconsistent forwards that completely disappear for weeks at a time! I have to admit that my favorite trade over the summer was dumping Jakey for Atkinson, but I am becoming disappointed in Atkinson. He needs to score at least 30 goals for that trade to be good. He tries hard, but it seems he is overmatched physically in most battles he gets into. Soft and slow will not win in today's(or yesterday's) NHL. Happy Thanksgiving!
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 25 @ 8:53 AM ET
Same issues for how many years now. Only way it will change is if this team just sinks to the bottom and fans stay away. Hopefully with inflation rising and the team being dog crap they do not go.

They do not have the GM coaches or players to get this team where it wants to go. A complete tear down is what was needed several times over the last decade. Including this past summer. This is a rudderless organization. Sooner they sell it the better.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 25 @ 8:55 AM ET
The Flyers are just a slow team full of inconsistent forwards that completely disappear for weeks at a time! I have to admit that my favorite trade over the summer was dumping Jakey for Atkinson, but I am becoming disappointed in Atkinson. He needs to score at least 30 goals for that trade to be good. He tries hard, but it seems he is overmatched physically in most battles he gets into. Soft and slow will not win in today's(or yesterday's) NHL. Happy Thanksgiving!
- Phillywhiteout


The Flyers aren't slow. They're an average skating team that plays slow. Florida is a faster team that also plays a faster style of play. Transition and puck moving are the name of the game. Florida's defenseman are superior to the Flyers. They move and skate the puck quickly. Combine that with some forward speed and a speed system, and they attack in waves.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 25 @ 8:57 AM ET
I wish there was a stat that tracks how often a team deliberately gives up possession. The Flyers continue to use simple wheel strong side breakouts that really are so basic that other teams are sitting waiting on it. I posted about it last night. Sanheim has the puck and wheels behind the net. He has a free skating lane but doesn't use it. Instead he sends the puck up the wall to a covered forward, putting the puck in a 50/50 battle. This is not just Sanheim. It's coaching.
Other teams defenseman skate the puck up or have a forward come deep and then use counters and one touch passes to move the puck with speed through the neutral zone to generate attacks.
There are other coaching issues such as the Flyers having difficulty executing AV's overload/man to man D zone coverage scheme. The PP obviously. Issues on the PK. The Flyers have a personnel issue and the coaches are not making adjustments.

- MJL

At what point does the player say well this is a poop system and not playing to our strengths? It is the coaching no doubt. How the phuck the GM cant or wont see this is mind boggling.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Nov 25 @ 9:03 AM ET
Farabee lost his stick and stopped playing, G tried to make a play to make up for the guy with no stock, he didn’t get it, game over . Simple as that.
- ClaudeFather

If you don’t understand the question, don’t respond. This doesn’t answer my question. I don’t need you version of whatever this is.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Nov 25 @ 9:14 AM ET
The Flyers aren't slow. They're an average skating team that plays slow. Florida is a faster team that also plays a faster style of play. Transition and puck moving are the name of the game. Florida's defenseman are superior to the Flyers. They move and skate the puck quickly. Combine that with some forward speed and a speed system, and they attack in waves.
- MJL


What about floridas forwards, arent they superior to ours also. I mean, not sure they can keep up with all the goals we are scoring.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Nov 25 @ 9:17 AM ET
What's it going to take to fire the coaches? I'm curious, its gotta happen soon, no one is getting fired right before christmas are they?
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Nov 25 @ 9:23 AM ET
What's it going to take to fire the coaches? I'm curious, its gotta happen soon, no one is getting fired right before christmas are they?
- bradster

This is gonna go along time, isn’t it?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 25 @ 9:30 AM ET
What's it going to take to fire the coaches? I'm curious, its gotta happen soon, no one is getting fired right before christmas are they?
- bradster

AV is owed what 15 million? 5 million per I think. Then another 2 million at least for another coach.

Don't see them doing it just yet. That is a lot of money. Add on the assistant coaches as well. That is a big nut to swallow.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 25 @ 9:36 AM ET
If you don’t understand the question, don’t respond. This doesn’t answer my question. I don’t need you version of whatever this is.
- SuperSchennBros

You’re asking about who’s man is who’s. G was trying to make up for Farabee. Just because moronic posters think one way you are butt hurt
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Nov 25 @ 9:37 AM ET
AV is owed what 15 million? 5 million per I think. Then another 2 million at least for another coach.

Don't see them doing it just yet. That is a lot of money. Add on the assistant coaches as well. That is a big nut to swallow.

- hello it's me 2050
I was thrilled when AV was hired, but I think it's just a matter of him collecting a paycheck now. He seems to be mailing it in and probably doesn't care if he gets fired as long as he gets his cash. It's what happens. Everyone burns out eventually and he is probably cooked. Therrien is basically an unlikeable strapperhead and should have never been hired in the first place, but apparently AV insisted on it. They can ride off into the sunset together as far as I'm concerned.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 25 @ 9:37 AM ET
AV is owed what 15 million? 5 million per I think. Then another 2 million at least for another coach.

Don't see them doing it just yet. That is a lot of money. Add on the assistant coaches as well. That is a big nut to swallow.

- hello it's me 2050

To swallow haha come on
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Nov 25 @ 9:40 AM ET
I understand you can't handle being proven wrong. It wasn't at all difficult.
- MJL



this is hilarious coming from you
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 25 @ 9:40 AM ET
You’re asking about who’s man is who’s. G was trying to make up for Farabee. Just because moronic posters think one way you are butt hurt
- ClaudeFather


3 on 3 in OT is man to man. Ekblad was originally Farabee's man. Farabee had his stick knocked out of his had by Ekblad. That's the first clue that Ekblad was Farabee's man. Giroux saw that Farabee had lost Ekblad and switched to Ekblad. Was that the correct move, can't say. Farabee and Giroux were a little confused and almost bumped each other off. Giroux reached to break up the pass down low and was caught flatfooted. Ekblad moved laterally to get away from Giroux and got open.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 25 @ 9:42 AM ET
I was thrilled when AV was hired, but I think it's just a matter of him collecting a paycheck now. He seems to be mailing it in and probably doesn't care if he gets fired as long as he gets his cash. It's what happens. Everyone burns out eventually and he is probably cooked. Therrien is basically an unlikeable strapperhead and should have never been hired in the first place, but apparently AV insisted on it. They can ride off into the sunset together as far as I'm concerned.
- Phillywhiteout


Seriously dude. The coaching deserves criticism but honestly sometimes the things you come up with. He's not mailing it in.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 25 @ 9:42 AM ET
this is hilarious coming from you
- anti-lame


Happy Thanksgiving.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Nov 25 @ 9:45 AM ET
If you don’t understand the question, don’t respond. This doesn’t answer my question. I don’t need you version of whatever this is.
- SuperSchennBros


I'm probably wrong about this, but I feel defense in 3 on 3 is like a matchup zone in basketball. You play man to man but pick up your man in your area. Way too much ro follow one special player.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Nov 25 @ 9:45 AM ET
Seriously dude. The coaching deserves criticism but honestly sometimes the things you come up with. He's not mailing it in.
- MJL
Oh, so you know he's not mailing it in? What, do you have him on call and you're privy to everything behind the scenes cause you are apparently an analytics genius?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 25 @ 9:45 AM ET
Seriously dude. The coaching deserves criticism but honestly sometimes the things you come up with. He's not mailing it in.
- MJL

Can you provide any proof he is not?
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Nov 25 @ 9:47 AM ET
Konecny was one of the Flyers better forwards in the game.
- MJL


notice how he said "in OT" but i guess reading comprehension is difficult for you
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 25 @ 9:47 AM ET
Oh, so you know he's not mailing it in? What, do you have him on call and you're privy to everything behind the scenes cause you are apparently an analytics genius?
- Phillywhiteout



Oh, so you know he's mailing it in? What, do you have him on call and you're privy to everything behind the scenes ?
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Nov 25 @ 9:48 AM ET
This is gonna go along time, isn’t it?
- SuperSchennBros

Im afraid so
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 25 @ 9:48 AM ET
notice how he said "in OT" but i guess reading comprehension is difficult for you
- anti-lame


Do you disagree with my opinion that Konecny was one of the better forwards in the game for the Flyers. Was I incorrect? If you actually discuss that, you may offer something and actually contribute. Or you can continue the way you are.
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Nov 25 @ 9:51 AM ET
Do you disagree with my opinion that Konecny was one of the better forwards in the game for the Flyers. Was I incorrect?
- MJL


you are trying to erase the fact that he was garbage in OT, which was OPs original point. But rather make on comment on that point you do what you always do and systematically disagree with everything that everyone says on this website its like don't get enough attention at home so you need to take the opposite stance of everything that is posted here.

to each his own i guesss?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 25 @ 9:52 AM ET
you are trying to erase the fact that he was garbage in OT, which was OPs original point. But rather make on comment on that point you do what you always do and systematically disagree with everything that everyone says on this website its like don't get enough attention at home so you need to take the opposite stance of everything that is posted here.

to each his own i guesss?

- anti-lame


You are wrong and are wasting my time and everyone else's. You have a personal issue and I don't care what you think.
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