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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 23 @ 3:09 PM ET
But that my point, they were not just a bad team last year, they were a laughing stock! It takes time to rebuild from that. This off-season was just a step towards building a better team. Unfortunately we have yet to experience what level this team is capable of because of key injuries. But even when Ellis and Hayes come back, this team may not have enough to contend for a cup. But they will be better and would have taken a step in the right direction. Hopefully when this season is over, more will be learned and then actions will be taken that constitute another step forward. The team is not going to blow it up, they will continue to build on the fly. Thus we just have to hope Fletcher makes the right decisions moving forward.
- jd250


They were a laughing stock last season. They were non-competitive. So why would anyone use last year as a measuring stick for the team? That's a joke. That was the point of my post. It doesn't take time to rebuild from that. They could've done nothing and would've been better than that debacle of a season.
If they won't be a contender with the moves made then why make them? Why bring in older players who are only going to decline? A player who needs to be resigned. More steps forward. Like what, trade Konecny for Hertl, which was your suggestion the other day? I don't want them to blow it up. I want them to not get into more bad contracts and draft and develop. Did Fletcher make the right decisions last off season?
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Nov 23 @ 3:12 PM ET
They were a laughing stock last season. They were non-competitive. So why would anyone use last year as a measuring stick for the team? That's a joke. That was the point of my post. It doesn't take time to rebuild from that. They could've done nothing and would've been better than that debacle of a season.
If they won't be a contender with the moves made then why make them? Why bring in older players who are only going to decline? A player who needs to be resigned. More steps forward. Like what, trade Konecny for Hertl, which was your suggestion the other day? I don't want them to blow it up. I want them to not get into more bad contracts and draft and develop. Did Fletcher make the right decisions last off season?

- MJL


Not sure they wouldve been better than last year if they didnt do anything. Patrick wasting time, myers running around doing nothing, jake making turn overs like crazy. Our D is playing much better... and all that without ellis
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Nov 23 @ 3:29 PM ET
You have the conversation inaccurately. It was not a conversation about Brassard over Thompson. It was about Brassard as a top 9 center option. I replied he was washed up and I was not interested in him as a center in the top 9. Not when they had Couturier, Hayes, Laughton and Frost was still a possibility at that point.
- MJL


incorrect. the conversation was between me and another poster 2050 i believe, about the players we would've like to sign over nate. JD 250 brought up Brassard a day or two before and we were all discussing. You jumped right in then.

You said there was a reason nate was signed on day one of free agency and kept asking what team signed brass. that he was not sought after for a reason and even implied he may not be signed saying he was washed. when we did sign him you said it was a desperation move.

the entire point of the conversation was....there were better options out there than nate in free agency.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 23 @ 3:32 PM ET
incorrect. the conversation was between me and another poster 2050 i believe, about the players we would've like to sign over nate. JD 250 brought up Brassard a day or two before and we were all discussing. You jumped right in then.

You said there was a reason nate was signed on day one of free agency and kept asking what team signed brass. that he was not sought after for a reason and even implied he may not be signed saying he was washed. when we did sign him you said it was a desperation move.

the entire point of the conversation was....there were better options out there than nate in free agency.

- Peter Richards


You have it completely wrong. The conversation had zero to do with Thompson. You were advocating for Brassard as a center option in the top 9. Also had a great deal to do with my not wanting the Flyers to bring in vets to take away opportunities for young players such as Frost.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Nov 23 @ 3:32 PM ET
They were a laughing stock last season. They were non-competitive. So why would anyone use last year as a measuring stick for the team? That's a joke. That was the point of my post. It doesn't take time to rebuild from that. They could've done nothing and would've been better than that debacle of a season.
If they won't be a contender with the moves made then why make them? Why bring in older players who are only going to decline? A player who needs to be resigned. More steps forward. Like what, trade Konecny for Hertl, which was your suggestion the other day? I don't want them to blow it up. I want them to not get into more bad contracts and draft and develop. Did Fletcher make the right decisions last off season?

- MJL


the team wasn't a contender before, so why keep baking with the same recipe. short one year contracts for most of the vets brought in. could be worse. could've signed weisse again.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 23 @ 3:34 PM ET
the team wasn't a contender before, so why keep baking with the same recipe. short one year contracts for most of the vets brought in. could be worse. could've signed weisse again.
- Peter Richards


The major deals were for Ellis, Atkinson and Ristolainen.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Nov 23 @ 3:35 PM ET
You have it completely wrong. The conversation had zero to do with Thompson. You were advocating for Brassard as a center option in the top 9.
- MJL


lIncorrect. maybe a winger as that's where he played on the isles. but the convo was about one vs the other.

But if that is your claim prove it. or tell me how to look up the old posts and i'll find it.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Nov 23 @ 3:36 PM ET
The major deals were for Ellis, Atkinson and Ristolainen.
- MJL


very good.

out jake, ghost, patrick and myers.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 23 @ 3:41 PM ET
lIncorrect. maybe a winger as that's where he played on the isles. but the convo was about one vs the other.

But if that is your claim prove it. or tell me how to look up the old posts and i'll find it.

- Peter Richards



You're making the accusation. You prove it. This reeks of desperation on your part. I think I'm going to add you to the list.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 23 @ 3:42 PM ET
You're making the accusation. You prove it. This reeks of desperation on your part. I think I'm going to add you to the list.
- MJL

the list. You the man Cliff

Can you share said list?
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Nov 23 @ 3:43 PM ET
Nate is in the lineup because AV wants him there, injuries or not. Amazes me people think otherwise.
- hello it's me 2050


Our center depth without Hayes is Laughton, Brassard and the all mighty Nate Thompson. Patrick freakin Brown has been forced on to us. Who else is going to play? If Hayes and Allison were available, who would you take out?
rayc16
Joined: 06.29.2006

Nov 23 @ 3:43 PM ET
very good.

out jake, ghost, patrick and myers.

- Peter Richards


Ghost seems to be having a decent season.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 23 @ 3:45 PM ET
Ghost seems to be having a decent season.
- rayc16

he is having, to quote Cliff, a "very good" season.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Nov 23 @ 3:46 PM ET
You're making the accusation. You prove it. This reeks of desperation on your part. I think I'm going to add you to the list.
- MJL


okay. i'm trying to get that proof you always ask for....but now see you say things out of both sides of your mouth and always challenge people to provide what you said. well thats hard when i can only view the last month or two from bills blogs isn't it. you know i'm right...hence the mudslinging there.


add me to any list you want.....
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Nov 23 @ 3:50 PM ET
the list. You the man Cliff

Can you share said list?

- hello it's me 2050


When I get mad
And I get pissed
I grab my pen
And I write out a list
Of all the people
That won't be missed
You've made my pooplist
For all the ones
Who bum me out
pooplist
For all the ones
Who fill my head with doubt
pooplist
For all the squares who get me pissed
pooplist
You've made my pooplist
pooplist
pooplist
When I get mad
And I get pissed
pooplist
I grab my pen
And write out a list
pooplist
Of all you bumholes
Who won't be missed
pooplist
You've made my pooplist
pooplist
pooplist
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Nov 23 @ 3:51 PM ET
myers vs risto

https://www.naturalstattr...&td=&tgp=410&lines=single

hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 23 @ 3:52 PM ET
When I get mad
And I get pissed
I grab my pen
And I write out a list
Of all the people
That won't be missed
You've made my pooplist
For all the ones
Who bum me out
pooplist
For all the ones
Who fill my head with doubt
pooplist
For all the squares who get me pissed
pooplist
You've made my pooplist
pooplist
pooplist
When I get mad
And I get pissed
pooplist
I grab my pen
And write out a list
pooplist
Of all you bumholes
Who won't be missed
pooplist
You've made my pooplist
pooplist
pooplist

- corduroy

love skanky white trash chics.
Gogol
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 05.16.2017

Nov 23 @ 3:53 PM ET
Badges! We ain’t got no badges. We don’t need no badges. I don’t have to show you any stinking’ badges!
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Nov 23 @ 3:53 PM ET
risto vs ghost

https://www.naturalstattr...&td=&tgp=410&lines=single
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Nov 23 @ 3:53 PM ET
Thompson has played every game so far no matter who was healthy. The 4th line he has been the constant on, is one of the very worst lines in the league.
- Feanor


It was fairly clear AV was fond of him right from the 2020 playoffs.

Good old Uncle Nate!
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Nov 23 @ 3:55 PM ET
jake vs cam

https://www.naturalstattr...&td=&tgp=410&lines=single
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Nov 23 @ 4:25 PM ET
risto vs ghost

https://www.naturalstattr...&td=&tgp=410&lines=single

- Peter Richards


Gostisbehere Yotes leading scorer, and he's not even a minus for the season on a team with a -35 goal differential. Can't make it up.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Nov 23 @ 4:30 PM ET
All Lindblom scoring chances should be a jolt to the offense
- SuperSchennBros


Would probably be more inspired by scoring.
Flyerz74
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.14.2019

Nov 23 @ 4:39 PM ET
Gostisbehere Yotes leading scorer, and he's not even a minus for the season on a team with a -35 goal differential. Can't make it up.
- PLindbergh31


And he would have done that here? He had his chance. Is the best player on the worst team that great?
Flyerz74
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.14.2019

Nov 23 @ 4:44 PM ET
i don't think Nate has been the one that people consistently complain about.
- Peter Richards



I don't agree:

Yup, and he may only be in the lineup due to injury. Complainers got to complain
- bradster


Thompson has played every game so far no matter who was healthy. The 4th line he has been the constant on, is one of the very worst lines in the league.


Heads here complain just to complain. Constructive hockey talk is great but the complaining over a 4th line dude, is goofy.
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