Mornin fellow buzzards of a feather…
On todays menu we have…

https://www.capfriendly.c.../armchair-gm/team/2918465
- Nighthawk

I like the Noah Dobson deal but what is with this Kevin Fiala fascination people? I would keep Miller over any trade involving him unless it contained a 1st as well.
Edit: Actually still don't want Fiala just picks and prospects

Mornin fellow buzzards of a feather…
On todays menu we have…

https://www.capfriendly.c.../armchair-gm/team/2918465
- Nighthawk

https://www.quanthockey.c...easons-players-stats.html
17th in the league in scoring over the last 3 years...
If we are to trade him, its at the deadline when we are out of it for a haul of picks and prospects. That's it, end of discussion...lol

Thomas Drance
@ThomasDrance
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16m
Bo Horvat and Tanner Pearson are wearing bottom-six white, while all of Pettersson, Boeser, Miller, Garland, Höglander Podkolzin are sporting top-six blue.

Expecting the club to show some new-look lines shortly.

Ok I’m listening…

Who for what?
- Nighthawk

Heart for selfie posing.

Thomas Drance
@ThomasDrance
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16m
Bo Horvat and Tanner Pearson are wearing bottom-six white, while all of Pettersson, Boeser, Miller, Garland, Höglander Podkolzin are sporting top-six blue.

Expecting the club to show some new-look lines shortly.
- VanHockeyGuy

Man that Pearson resigning sure was a good idea....

Forget hockey, I want 17 pages of dinosaur rock!

The Alberta teams both look legit, I hate it so much.

Thomas Drance
@ThomasDrance
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16m
Bo Horvat and Tanner Pearson are wearing bottom-six white, while all of Pettersson, Boeser, Miller, Garland, Höglander Podkolzin are sporting top-six blue.

Expecting the club to show some new-look lines shortly.
- VanHockeyGuy

Whoa, top 6 players playing in the top 6???
Who would of thunk it?

(Ain't the biggest fan of Miller at C though)

I like the Noah Dobson deal but what is with this Kevin Fiala fascination people? I would keep Miller over any trade involving him unless it contained a 1st as well.
Edit: Actually still don't want Fiala just picks and prospects
- carsonagenic

Agreed, any Min trade for Miller or Boeser has to involve Boldy.

Agreed, any Min trade for Miller or Boeser has to involve Boldy.
- Whiskey-Tango

They don't have to trade either of them right now, drive up the market price for both of them.

They don't have to trade either of them right now, drive up the market price for both of them.
- VanHockeyGuy

THIS!
Miller is 17th and Brock is 60th in the NHL scoring over the last 3 seasons.
So a top producing L1W/C and a top 6 winger is worth what at the trade deadline?
More than Kevin Fiala...lol
and the return for Miller has to be better than the 1st, 3rd, and goalie we gave to get him.

Thomas Drance
@ThomasDrance
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16m
Bo Horvat and Tanner Pearson are wearing bottom-six white, while all of Pettersson, Boeser, Miller, Garland, Höglander Podkolzin are sporting top-six blue.

Expecting the club to show some new-look lines shortly.
- VanHockeyGuy

Maybe if they tried Pearson off of Bo's wing Bo wouldn't be playing like a bottom 6er?

THIS!
Miller is 17th and Brock is 60th in the NHL scoring over the last 3 seasons.
So a top producing L1W/C and a top 6 winger is worth what at the trade deadline?
More than Kevin Fiala...lol
and the return for Miller has to be better than the 1st, 3rd, and goalie we gave to get him.
- carsonagenic

If Benning feels he needs to trade Miller to fix Chemistry and try to salvage the season, TDL will be too late. Personally I think the season is lost as long as Green and co are still coaching. Shaw is the only one I would keep.

THIS!
Miller is 17th and Brock is 60th in the NHL scoring over the last 3 seasons.
So a top producing L1W/C and a top 6 winger is worth what at the trade deadline?
More than Kevin Fiala...lol
and the return for Miller has to be better than the 1st, 3rd, and goalie we gave to get him.
- carsonagenic

I don't get why you hate Fiala so much. Based on your same "last 3 seasons" standard, Fiala is 53rd – ahead of Bo and Brock.

Getting Fiala, who is 3 years younger than JTM, plus a 1st or a higher prospect would be a worthwhile trade. If the new GM couldn't sign him to an extension, then he becomes a high end trade chip at the TDL after playing the year with Petey and you get more assets for him.

If Benning feels he needs to trade Miller to fix Chemistry and try to salvage the season, TDL will be too late. Personally I think the season is lost as long as Green and co are still coaching. Shaw is the only one I would keep.
- Retinalz

And Clark, obvs

Is that all?

Elliotte: Number one thing I keep hearing about Vancouver and I hear it everyday, I hear it everyday, they are trying to avoid doing something (trade) they will regret for a decade.

Is that all?

Elliotte: Number one thing I keep hearing about Vancouver and I hear it everyday, I hear it everyday, they are trying to avoid doing something (trade) they will regret for a decade.
- VanHockeyGuy

2 more years of JB and we're there

2 more years of JB and we're there
- NewYorkNuck

I'll surmise FA needs to approve any further JB deals.

I don't get why you hate Fiala so much. Based on your same "last 3 seasons" standard, Fiala is 53rd – ahead of Bo and Brock.

Getting Fiala, who is 3 years younger than JTM, plus a 1st or a higher prospect would be a worthwhile trade. If the new GM couldn't sign him to an extension, then he becomes a high end trade chip at the TDL after playing the year with Petey and you get more assets for him.
- NewYorkNuck

IMO, if this team is going to be trading away top end producing NHL talent, then it is scorched earth time. Picks, prospects, and full Tankasaurus. No trading for RFAs / UFAs unless, like you pointed out, they are flipped for more picks and prospects. This is already hard enough trying to get value for our own guys, let alone acquiring more guys to deal with...cause JB/Canucks...lol

I'll surmise FA needs to approve any further JB deals.
- VanHockeyGuy

This doesn't reassure me in the least.
#draftJakeVirtanen

This doesn't reassure me in the least.
#draftJakeVirtanen
- carsonagenic

People are already talking about the draft, JB's desperate for results, you can't let him deal high picks 3 years in a row unless it's an amazing deal.

IMO, if this team is going to be trading away top end producing NHL talent, then it is scorched earth time. Picks, prospects, and full Tankasaurus. No trading for RFAs / UFAs unless, like you pointed out, they are flipped for more picks and prospects. This is already hard enough trying to get value for our own guys, let alone acquiring more guys to deal with...cause JB/Canucks...lol
- carsonagenic

I just don't see it as an either or situation. Teams like Colorado and Edmonton have been in the position the Canucks find themselves now with a core of young players and some high end older players that aren't in the same age window. They didn't go scorched earth to get where they are, and I don't think the Canucks have to either – unless you think the core (Petey, Boes, Bo, Hughes, Demko) aren't good enough to get it done.

Trading JTM for a younger "top end producing NHL talent" that aligns with the core's age better AND getting another pick/prospect is a good start to redefining the team's window. Clearly fixing the D should be priority number one, and would rather trade JTM/Boes for a solid top RHD, but Fiala would be a solid addition IMO, given that it's not a 1 for 1.

Leadership I wish they had.

Thomas Drance
@ThomasDrance
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16m
Bo Horvat and Tanner Pearson are wearing bottom-six white, while all of Pettersson, Boeser, Miller, Garland, Höglander Podkolzin are sporting top-six blue.

Expecting the club to show some new-look lines shortly.
- VanHockeyGuy

1/4 of the way through the season and Green is still trying to figure out line combos. Awesome.

I just don't see it as an either or situation. Teams like Colorado and Edmonton have been in the position the Canucks find themselves now with a core of young players and some high end older players that aren't in the same age window. They didn't go scorched earth to get where they are, and I don't think the Canucks have to either – unless you think the core (Petey, Boes, Bo, Hughes, Demko) aren't good enough to get it done.

Trading JTM for a younger "top end producing NHL talent" that aligns with the core's age better AND getting another pick/prospect is a good start to redefining the team's window. Clearly fixing the D should be priority number one, and would rather trade JTM/Boes for a solid top RHD, but Fiala would be a solid addition IMO, given that it's not a 1 for 1.
- NewYorkNuck

I don't think Petey is the player he was or has been portrayed to be, so I wouldn't be building around him. Not my type of player. My biggest fear is that they do something extremely stupid, like mortgage more of the future to make the playoffs this season. As has been stated, JB is fighting for his job, and FA is fighting for playoff revenue. Very scary prospect this is. So say we make a trade for yet another 1st to "get in the dance" yet we miss by just that much. Then what? Yet another pick traded, have to qualify Brock at 7.5, and the kicker is do JTM and Bo want to stay in this rudderless shatshow ship without a President of Hockey Ops at the helm after next season? To me, it is time to really assess what we have currently in this group and if there are any glaring concerns with it, then its time to blow it up and rebuild correctly from a PofHO down.

Leadership I wish they had.


- VanHockeyGuy

Yep