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carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Nov 24 @ 1:01 PM ET
1/4 of the way through the season and Green is still trying to figure out line combos. Awesome.
- Load Management

TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Nov 24 @ 1:07 PM ET
This doesn't reassure me in the least.
#draftJakeVirtanen

- carsonagenic

Ah the good old days…

I remember telling you all and your old blogger Ian Espledouche how bad the Virtanen, Shinkaruk and Gaunce picks were. You all told me I was so wrong and had no clue. Especially that Bieksa#3 douche.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 24 @ 1:13 PM ET
1/4 of the way through the season and Green is still trying to figure out line combos. Awesome.
- Load Management

lol yep. Maybe he should run them though some video game analytics...
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 24 @ 1:14 PM ET
Ah the good old days…

I remember telling you all and your old blogger Ian Espledouche how bad the Virtanen, Shinkaruk and Gaunce picks were. You all told me I was so wrong and had no clue. Especially that Bieksa#3 douche.

- TurdFergeson

You ok TF?

Having a douchey day?

carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Nov 24 @ 1:18 PM ET
Ah the good old days…

I remember telling you all and your old blogger Ian Espledouche how bad the Virtanen, Shinkaruk and Gaunce picks were. You all told me I was so wrong and had no clue. Especially that Bieksa#3 douche.

- TurdFergeson

Easy on the "You ALL told me".
I never, and most on here I believe didn't want Virtanen. I know for certain that I wished for a foam brick when they picked Shinkaruk. I wanted them to trade up for Chris Krieder.
And as for Gaunce, well worth the joy he has created on this board.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 24 @ 1:21 PM ET
Easy on the "You ALL told me".
I never, and most on here I believe didn't want Virtanen. I know for certain that I wished for a foam brick when they picked Shinkaruk. I wanted them to trade up for Chris Krieder.
And as for Gaunce, well worth the joy he has created on this board.

- carsonagenic

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 24 @ 1:38 PM ET
Green has turned Boeser into Pearson 2.0

A nice two way player that would be a bargain at two mil per year. At 7.5 mil , not so much a bargain.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 24 @ 1:46 PM ET
Green has turned Boeser into Pearson 2.0

A nice two way player that would be a bargain at two mil per year. At 7.5 mil , not so much a bargain.

- VANTEL

Benning constantly gets fucked over on contract structure by agents who are much smarter than him. That Boeser contract at 7.5 million dollars in the final year is just awful
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Nov 24 @ 1:48 PM ET
Benning constantly gets fucked over on contract structure by agents who are much smarter than him. That Boeser contract at 7.5 million dollars in the final year is just awful
- LeftCoaster


Theoretically, they could sign him to a cheaper contract than his QO. Unlikely, but it is possible.
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Nov 24 @ 1:49 PM ET
Easy on the "You ALL told me".
I never, and most on here I believe didn't want Virtanen. I know for certain that I wished for a foam brick when they picked Shinkaruk. I wanted them to trade up for Chris Krieder.
And as for Gaunce, well worth the joy he has created on this board.

- carsonagenic


Yes ALL was an exaggeration. But seeing your post just brought back those memories.
I dont recall even seeing you on those threads.
Beeker#3, Esplen, Hankthetank, Bloated, thundachunk, Marwood, whiskydoucheface, and more all arguing how Shink was the steal of the draft. Esplen said he had him ranked third overall and Beeker said 6th.
But then again Esplen also had Frank Corrado as a future team Canada Olympian.
So many said Barkov was going to be a total bust.

Not looking to argue just reminiscing.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Nov 24 @ 1:50 PM ET
I don't think Petey is the player he was or has been portrayed to be, so I wouldn't be building around him. Not my type of player. My biggest fear is that they do something extremely stupid, like mortgage more of the future to make the playoffs this season. As has been stated, JB is fighting for his job, and FA is fighting for playoff revenue. Very scary prospect this is. So say we make a trade for yet another 1st to "get in the dance" yet we miss by just that much. Then what? Yet another pick traded, have to qualify Brock at 7.5, and the kicker is do JTM and Bo want to stay in this rudderless shatshow ship without a President of Hockey Ops at the helm after next season? To me, it is time to really assess what we have currently in this group and if there are any glaring concerns with it, then its time to blow it up and rebuild correctly from a PofHO down.
- carsonagenic


Well I think everyone's fear is they push chips further in to try and win this year. But that's not really the hypothetical we're talking about.

I agree they need new management. I don't think anyone should be traded until a new Pres, GM, and coach are in place. But I still think JTM needs to go – not only to sell an asset high, but because the long-term look for this team's timeline and his age/cap/contract situation just don't line up.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Nov 24 @ 1:53 PM ET
I like the Noah Dobson deal but what is with this Kevin Fiala fascination people? I would keep Miller over any trade involving him unless it contained a 1st as well.
Edit: Actually still don't want Fiala just picks and prospects

- carsonagenic

Of course everyone wants Dobson. He isn’t for sale and the islanders aren’t buyers.
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Nov 24 @ 1:55 PM ET
Yes ALL was an exaggeration. But seeing your post just brought back those memories.
I dont recall even seeing you on those threads.
Beeker#3, Esplen, Hankthetank, Bloated, thundachunk, Marwood, whiskydoucheface, and more all arguing how Shink was the steal of the draft. Esplen said he had him ranked third overall and Beeker said 6th.
But then again Esplen also had Frank Corrado as a future team Canada Olympian.
So many said Barkov was going to be a total bust.

- TurdFergeson


You need to learn how to let some of this shit go.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Nov 24 @ 1:56 PM ET
If Benning feels he needs to trade Miller to fix Chemistry and try to salvage the season, TDL will be too late. Personally I think the season is lost as long as Green and co are still coaching. Shaw is the only one I would keep.
- Retinalz

They want to trade Boeser not Miller
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 24 @ 1:57 PM ET
Green has turned Boeser into Pearson 2.0

A nice two way player that would be a bargain at two mil per year. At 7.5 mil , not so much a bargain.

- VANTEL

Boeser looked real good last year like he had turned the corner. Now it looks like his skating and confidence has regressed much like Petey.
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Nov 24 @ 1:59 PM ET
Well I think everyone's fear is they push chips further in to try and win this year. But that's not really the hypothetical we're talking about.

I agree they need new management. I don't think anyone should be traded until a new Pres, GM, and coach are in place. But I still think JTM needs to go – not only to sell an asset high, but because the long-term look for this team's timeline and his age/cap/contract situation just don't line up.

- NewYorkNuck


Part of what's killing us at the moment is letting players that had value walk for nothing. Not a chance JTM is resigning.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Nov 24 @ 2:00 PM ET
Boeser looked real good last year like he had turned the corner. Now it looks like his skating and confidence has regressed much like Petey.
- LordHumungous


So they looked good when they couldn't go out and party? Now that bars and clubs are back open, and the booger sugar is flowing, they're sucking? Hmmm
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Nov 24 @ 2:01 PM ET
Part of what's killing us at the moment is letting players that had value walk for nothing. Not a chance JTM is resigning.
- Load Management


Oh hell no he isn't, and if he did it would be a terrible contract that would handcuff the team down the road when they're ready to compete.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 24 @ 2:01 PM ET
Boeser looked real good last year like he had turned the corner. Now it looks like his skating and confidence has regressed much like Petey.
- LordHumungous


I don't honestly remember anyone looking really good last year. I think if I needed to pick one player that I thought had a good year it would be Hoglander.

I guess Boeser had a decent year . My first recollection was the whole team was horrible
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Nov 24 @ 2:03 PM ET
Leadership I wish they had.


- VanHockeyGuy

if you're going to get caught tampering, you do it to get a guy like this!
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 24 @ 2:06 PM ET

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
As
@SeattleKraken
announced, Nathan Bastian on waivers. Patrick Harper (NASH) on unconditional waivers
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Nov 24 @ 2:08 PM ET
You need to learn how to let some of this shit go.
- Load Management

carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Nov 24 @ 2:17 PM ET
if you're going to get caught tampering, you do it to get a guy like this!
- RealityChecker

Yes. Best Tampering Ever
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Nov 24 @ 2:18 PM ET
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
As
@SeattleKraken
announced, Nathan Bastian on waivers. Patrick Harper (NASH) on unconditional waivers

- VANTEL

SCRAPS you say? ❤️
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 24 @ 2:19 PM ET
Agreed, any Min trade for Miller or Boeser has to involve Boldy.
- Whiskey-Tango

I’d try for Rossi.
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