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VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 24 @ 10:28 PM ET
I watched Clb-Buf last night and it was an UGLY 7-4 game. It looked beer leagues.

Yet somehow they still look less lost out there than the Canucks do.

- manvanfan


No words.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 24 @ 10:29 PM ET
Elliotte: Number one thing I keep hearing about Vancouver and I hear it everyday, I hear it everyday, they are trying to avoid doing something (trade) they will regret for a decade.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 24 @ 10:31 PM ET
Funny, neither Roussel, Eriksson nor Beagle are out on the PP for Zona
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 24 @ 10:31 PM ET
Elliotte: Number one thing I keep hearing about Vancouver and I hear it everyday, I hear it everyday, they are trying to avoid doing something (trade) they will regret for a decade.
- manvanfan

They are avoiding doing something. This crap didn’t happen overnight. Lol
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Nov 24 @ 10:32 PM ET
Funny, I was just thinking… Micah Aivazoff told me his buddy Victor Gervais told him someone beat the crap out of Glen Goodall who was a dynamic scorer in junior for Seattle. They made it work.

Goodall was such a dick his billets kicked him out of their house

- LeftCoaster


Lol. Classic. You're right though. It happens more than people think.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 24 @ 10:32 PM ET
Elliotte: Number one thing I keep hearing about Vancouver and I hear it everyday, I hear it everyday, they are trying to avoid doing something (trade) they will regret for a decade.
- manvanfan

Hopefully Benning and Weisbrod never get the chance
I-own_da-Northwest
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cariboo, BC
Joined: 08.08.2009

Nov 24 @ 10:32 PM ET
Elliotte: Number one thing I keep hearing about Vancouver and I hear it everyday, I hear it everyday, they are trying to avoid doing something (trade) they will regret for a decade.
- manvanfan

So there’s no chance Chiasson gets dealt?
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 24 @ 10:32 PM ET
What happened to the days of Nucker, the lieutenants, NFU & the Pom Pom Squad?

VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 24 @ 10:33 PM ET
Hopefully Benning and Weisbrod never get the chance
- LeftCoaster



Good chance he gets acting GM.
Sayros
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 24 @ 10:34 PM ET
Funny, neither Roussel, Eriksson nor Beagle are out on the PP for Zona
- LeftCoaster


We shoulda got kessel ... no joke he still makes amazing passes and has a nose for the net like there’s a hot dog back there.
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Nov 24 @ 10:35 PM ET
What happened to the days of Nucker, the lieutenants, NFU & the Pom Pom Squad?
- VanHockeyGuy


I think everyone has reached the same point. There's nothing left to argue or defend.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 24 @ 10:36 PM ET
I think everyone has reached the same point. There's nothing left to argue or defend.
- Load Management


Nope.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 24 @ 10:38 PM ET
May well be...

Garry Valk
@garryvalk
The Canucks in my opinion have a team that have a bunch of individuals who have never had to work for anything their whole life. Now that adversity is hit they are dazed and confused.
Fisticus
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canada, BC
Joined: 01.06.2007

Nov 24 @ 10:39 PM ET
If there is a fracture and a series of cliques in the dressing room, a weak coach, a waffling GM, and an owner who doesn't know what string to pull, this is going to get worse, before it gets better.

I saw this chart on "Performance vs. Trust". Effectively, if you have high performers who are untrustworthy off the ice / battle field, those performers are considered toxic, and are less desirable than medium or weak performers with a high degree of trust.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJdXjtSnZTI

I think the Aquilini's likely made a lot money as a result of astute management. So eventually, they are going to find the right management group, realize that they can't be involved day to day, and are going to have to be prepared to make a series of difficult decisions.

All in all, the two dudes I feel the worse for? Travis Green and Thatcher Demko. Travis has to feel like Dallas Eakin, and Thatcher has to feel like "why am I trying so hard..."



LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 24 @ 10:39 PM ET
38% PP for Edmonton
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 24 @ 10:40 PM ET
No words.
- VanHockeyGuy

I watched my soccer team struggle for years the same way. The players were there but the results never were. 9 coaches in 10 years. Finally found the right coach that has got the best out of the players as a team. Young players are improving when they come to the team and coaching is helping them grow.

Players that leave seem to struggle.

The coach understands what to do to get the best out of his players.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 24 @ 10:41 PM ET
May well be...

Garry Valk
@garryvalk
The Canucks in my opinion have a team that have a bunch of individuals who have never had to work for anything their whole life. Now that adversity is hit they are dazed and confused.

- VanHockeyGuy

I think Benning is dazed and confused as to what’s happening
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 24 @ 10:42 PM ET


Rob Williams
@RobTheHockeyGuy
·
46m
Drance to Miller: "Is everyone buying in right now?"

Miller couldn't or didn't answer the question. Spoke volumes.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 24 @ 10:42 PM ET
May well be...

Garry Valk
@garryvalk
The Canucks in my opinion have a team that have a bunch of individuals who have never had to work for anything their whole life. Now that adversity is hit they are dazed and confused.

- VanHockeyGuy



That's pretty dumb. All of these guys have faced adversity and have all had to work extremely hard to get to where they are.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 24 @ 10:45 PM ET
Rob Williams
@RobTheHockeyGuy
·
46m
Drance to Miller: "Is everyone buying in right now?"

Miller couldn't or didn't answer the question. Spoke volumes.

- VanHockeyGuy


Maybe you should post it a couple more times to make sure?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 24 @ 10:46 PM ET
So there’s no chance Chiasson gets dealt?
- I-own_da-Northwest

I still wonder how he got a contract.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 24 @ 10:48 PM ET
Rob Williams
@RobTheHockeyGuy
·
46m
Drance to Miller: "Is everyone buying in right now?"

Miller couldn't or didn't answer the question. Spoke volumes.

- VanHockeyGuy

Good way to get the coach and Gm fired.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 24 @ 10:48 PM ET
Maybe you should post it a couple more times to make sure?

- VANTEL

Dorothy is clicking her heals 3x… lol
Chuckywhip
Joined: 01.20.2021

Nov 24 @ 10:51 PM ET
Oops
Chuckywhip
Joined: 01.20.2021

Nov 24 @ 10:51 PM ET
Hughes?!?! Was good when Tanev was his partner…
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