Is he let go before or after Xmas
- Peter Richards

I said before xmas a few week back. The fact he is owed 15 million and his coaches also make good coin makes me think it may not happen.

I still think the Flyers is PK is fine, they played more a traditional box yesterday from what I saw, and I commented how well I thought Bee killed a penalty in the 1st period. I agree with your other points, the Flyers certainly seem like they just can't figure out what to do and who to cover, they have very poor discipline with their defensive structure and this may be the reason why.
- jd250

The PK is not fine. They're 26th in the league in SCA/60. 31st in the league in HDCA/60.

The PK is a diamond force where both forwards up top pressure the puck. Think about how many times you see confusion up high? If they played a wedge+1 , that would eliminate that. It's more conservative but this team has issues with coverages.

Maybe I should use a 3 game amount…to prove an absolute BS position I have… some posters show their true colours and some just don’t understand the sport. Some started arguing that Risto sucked after 2 games… now that the actual stats aren’t on their side their whole argument goes by the waste side.
These same posters argue that analytic Data can be skewed because of over usage on a bad team because they play a lot of minutes in tough situations unless of course in pertains to Risto and his time in Buffalo…
I prefer to watch a player and judge his performance from what I’m watching. If I was watching a player struggling, which I’m clearly not, then his stats would bare that out… is he a top pair d man? No… but to me to argue that he’s mediocre says more about the poster and not the player.
- landros 2

Agree. He has some flaws but what he brings is important to the team. Meanwhile. Sanhiem has struggled more recently. People have not been crucifying him for every minute mistake. Some of the only life I’ve seen from this team this year was led by risto.

Flyers already play a lot of 1-2-2. What they really need to do is change from a strong side overload/man to man to more a zone coverage scheme. The Flyers have extreme difficulty sorting out coverages and have frequent breakdowns. They also need to change their breakout scheme. As well as move from a diamond force PK to a wedge +1 as the top forwards of the PK also have an issue sorting out coverages. When to pressure or contain and it would also prevent more cross seam passes.
- MJL

Maybe they should try the Flying V?

Sanheim is still not where he needs to be but his play has been improving. Which is why his ice time is up including recent games of 29:12, 26:06 and 23:36. He is still not using his skating enough and is not aggressive enough. He needs to attack more and to this point of the season, having 0 goals and only 3 assists is paltry.

Where did I say pull in every high priced free agent? Again read what I said. Bottom line is the flyers cant even get a seat at the dinner table with the top end free agents. Been that way for a while. You disagree that is wonderful.

As I said wish I knew what I was talking about like yourself.
- hello it's me 2050

I read what you posted. JvR and Hayes are top free agents from their class. You don’t know what you’re talking about.

If I’m reading what you said wrong, further Elaborate. Who can we not sit at the table with and get? Name 5 stud free agents within the last decade who were up for grabs and unable to get.

Sanheim is still not where he needs to be but his play has been improving. Which is why his ice time is up including recent games of 29:12, 26:06 and 23:36. He is still not using his skating enough and is not aggressive enough. He needs to attack more and to this point of the season, having 0 goals and only 3 assists is paltry.
- MJL

his ice time is up in part to seeler and yandle being not good.

A - Freak'n - Men!!
- jd250

Actually, I think it's apeople now.

I read what you posted. JvR and Hayes are top free agents from their class. You don’t know what you’re talking about.

If I’m reading what you said wrong, further Elaborate. Who can we not sit at the table and get? Name 5 stud free agents within the last decade who were up for grabs and unable to get.
- SuperSchennBros

The JVR signing was baffling to me. We know the player he is and we know our system doesnt compliment him. We put him in a position to fail and we are now stuck with an aging asset with very little value on the market.

I read what you posted. JvR and Hayes are top free agents from their class. You don’t know what you’re talking about.

If I’m reading what you said wrong, further Elaborate. Who can we not sit at the table and get? Name 5 stud free agents within the last decade who were up for grabs and unable to get.
- SuperSchennBros

you clearly didnt read it; hence the all things being equal part.

Flyers are a top free agent destination. I stand corrected.

larry
moe
curly
schemp
curly joe - there is your 5.

There it is.
Now we can see if Hart will be able to bounce back or will this be the beginning of the mirror of last year, good start followed by a shell of a goaltender.

Team has had exact trend as last year win games early despite underlying numbers, next stop bikini bottom.

you clearly didnt read it; hence the all things being equal part.

Flyers are a top free agent destination. I stand corrected.

larry
moe
curly
schemp
curly joe - there is your 5.
- hello it's me 2050

Ok, so you don’t have an answer. That’s great.

The JVR signing was baffling to me. We know the player he is and we know our system doesnt compliment him. We put him in a position to fail and we are now stuck with an aging asset with very little value on the market.
- Sir_Robot_Farts

At the time JVR was coming off back to back 29 and 36 goal seasons. He wasn't just scoring on the PP. He was putting up strong numbers at ES while playing a lot on the 3rd line.

For the first time this year I thought Hart looked small in net yesterday(I was just able to see the highlights that I missed yesterday). That typically means he is losing his confidence and positioned farther back in the net. No surprise that the second period is the Flyers worst period with that long change. Speed kills and they don't have any.

At the time JVR was coming off back to back 29 and 36 goal seasons. He wasn't just scoring on the PP. He was putting up strong numbers at ES while playing a lot on the 3rd line.
- MJL

And to be fair, Toronto was a very deep team. JvR and Bozak went from being a top line duo for years to getting pushed back. JvR’s RW on that third line in his final season was Mitch Marner.

The JVR signing was baffling to me. We know the player he is and we know our system doesnt compliment him. We put him in a position to fail and we are now stuck with an aging asset with very little value on the market.
- Sir_Robot_Farts

So there is no market for a lumbering, throw the puck away, lost his finishing touch washed up #2 pick retread winger?
Oh we already made that stupid move.

https://www.yardbarker.co...d_chase/s1_16481_34806065

written 6 months ago....

At the time JVR was coming off back to back 29 and 36 goal seasons. He wasn't just scoring on the PP. He was putting up strong numbers at ES while playing a lot on the 3rd line.
- MJL

was it a good signing yes or no?

Agree. He has some flaws but what he brings is important to the team. Meanwhile. Sanhiem has struggled more recently. People have not been crucifying him for every minute mistake. Some of the only life I’ve seen from this team this year was led by risto.
- Peter Richards

I don’t think he’s perfect, I just think there are things he does that help. I agree there are things Risto does that compliment the d on overall. He’s the exact type of d man they needed to add this past summer. Over all I think Risto has been better then Sanheim, which isn’t surprising he’s a better all around player. I actually thought Sanheim put together 7-8 games where by he played really good…no one was good against TB or the Canes.

And to be fair, Toronto was a very deep team. JvR and Bozak went from being a top line duo for years to getting pushed back. JvR’s RW on that third line in his final season was Mitch Marner.
- SuperSchennBros

Toronto wasn’t going to be able to afford him. Add in they drafted well with guys like Marner, Nylander and Mathews there wasn’t going to be fit. Philly didn’t have those high end draft picks up front for JVR to compete against. There was a fit. It’s just looking like it was 2 too many years on the term….unfortunately.

It’s also why analytics are a tool and shouldn’t be a main focus when looking at constructing a team. Similar to predictive index. Helpful tool. But only provides a part of the picture.
- Peter Richards

I am not quite sure what you are saying here... Hextall's tenure here has very little informational value about the role of analytics....

https://www.yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/flyers_need_to_reset_their_technique_and_evolve_past_dump_and_chase/s1_16481_34806065

written 6 months ago....
- hello it's me 2050

same read 60 months ago and beyond.

Weird. Rangers seemed to do it faster. More excuses.
- Peter Richards

Rangers committed explicitly to a full rebuild. That means both freeing up salary space by letting older vets go, and getting high draft picks.

The team you see today is a consequence of both those strategies + some luck, probably.

I’ll give you fox. As that was sneaky. They went after trouba as part of their rebuild.

They went after and signed pansrin. Hextal big signing in his time was jvr.

Rangers cleared house and drafted high. Yes. We also got a lottery pick.

They did a rebuild. Not a twenty year retooling process in a results orientated business. They told their fans this is what we are doing and executed said plan.

When hex left he said they were close to the next phase ( second phase). Phase three was a couple more years down the road. If he knew it was that far away why not clean house and acquire more assets.
- Peter Richards

Yes, it is a mystery to where the restraints on our rebuld came from. Why did we never commit to a full rebuild. Why did we give Voracek that contract? Why did we sign JVR. And so on. Was that Hextall's idea or were those restraints placed on him from above?

Rangers committed explicitly to a full rebuild. That means both freeing up salary space by letting older vets go, and getting high draft picks.

The team you see today is a consequence of both those strategies + some luck, probably.
- PT21

No they didn't. They traded for veteran players such a Zbanaejad. Traded a first round pick and a younger Neil Pionk for Jacob Trouba. Gave up draft picks for Brendan Smith. Used free agency. It was really a combination of things. To this point, they really haven't done anything.