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DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Nov 28 @ 8:58 AM ET
I believe the plan was for Hextall to draft and develop a young team that could be lead by G and Jake, an then augment the team when they were ready with good FAs. I didn't have a problem with the plan, but the execution was terrible as it turned out. The drafting, and even more importantly, the developing did not produce the fruits that were hoped and the FA signings really didn't work out. Its why the team is where they are right now, and as a fan I'm quite frustrated.
- jd250


Which is the same problem the Sixers had with tanking.....the draft is too mercurial EVEN if you have top 3 picks as in the Sixers case.

I still have no problem with accepting the fact the rebuild failed but it CANT stop you from cutting your losses and trying again. This team is going nowhere.
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Nov 28 @ 9:03 AM ET
The best thing that could happen to this organization is if coots goes down long term. They would have no ability to win. Easiest way to tank
- Just5


God what I wouldn't do for Shane Wright.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 28 @ 9:04 AM ET
Which is the same problem the Sixers had with tanking.....the draft is too mercurial EVEN if you have top 3 picks as in the Sixers case.

I still have no problem with accepting the fact the rebuild failed but it CANT stop you from cutting your losses and trying again. This team is going nowhere.

- DrMidnite


The Flyers have put major road blocks in their way in the last few years to rebuilding the team.
penguininnevada
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: member of the honor roll, assistant to the assistant manager of the movie theater
Joined: 09.01.2008

Nov 28 @ 9:07 AM ET
The flies have a Groupon for tickets

😲
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Nov 28 @ 9:08 AM ET
The Flyers have put major road blocks in their way in the last few years to rebuilding the team.
- MJL


Yes, they have. Which makes it all the more frustrating.
RajaAmpat
Joined: 12.16.2018

Nov 28 @ 9:15 AM ET
Yes, they have. Which makes it all the more frustrating.
- DrMidnite


Watching the Blues on the CI package, I keep wondering what might have been had they not got the booby prize second overall lottery pick and kept Schenn...all the alternate realities that might have occurred..Ughhh
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Nov 28 @ 9:21 AM ET
I'm sniffing out a Devils 5-2 win tonight. They are a swift skating team and the Flyers are not. Jones in net and he is due for a clunker.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Nov 28 @ 9:23 AM ET
The Flyers have put major road blocks in their way in the last few years to rebuilding the team.
- MJL


will you quit it with that nonsense. only thing they lost was a 1st round pick, the rest were inconsequential.. you just keep repeating the same schtick, culture, traded our future. you arent convinicing anyone. So come up with something new

or explain the road blocks..... all those 1 yr contracts, ya thats gotta be it
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Nov 28 @ 9:30 AM ET
Connor McClennon with a 4 point night. 2nd in the WHL in scoring
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Nov 28 @ 9:40 AM ET
They couldn’t. If they wanted to improve. ANY team can AFFORD any player if the player is a difference maker for that team….JVR although a decent producer was not that player.
- landros 2

Well you can spin this anyway you want but you said Toronto couldn’t afford JvR coming off a career year. Toronto could, they just went in another direction by signing to better and expensive player.
rayc16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Free Frosty
Joined: 06.29.2006

Nov 28 @ 9:46 AM ET
I'm sniffing out a Devils 5-2 win tonight. They are a swift skating team and the Flyers are not. Jones in net and he is due for a clunker.
- Phillywhiteout

Flyers win tonight
rayc16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Free Frosty
Joined: 06.29.2006

Nov 28 @ 9:46 AM ET
Watching the Blues on the CI package, I keep wondering what might have been had they not got the booby prize second overall lottery pick and kept Schenn...all the alternate realities that might have occurred..Ughhh
- RajaAmpat

I don't think there'd be a real difference.
rayc16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Free Frosty
Joined: 06.29.2006

Nov 28 @ 9:49 AM ET
will you quit it with that nonsense. only thing they lost was a 1st round pick, the rest were inconsequential.. you just keep repeating the same schtick, culture, traded our future. you arent convinicing anyone. So come up with something new

or explain the road blocks..... all those 1 yr contracts, ya thats gotta be it

- bradster

MJLs not wrong. If they were going to "rebuild" you don't trade young players and assets for older players. If you don't like the young players you trade them for picks or other young players. The management isn't entertaining a rebuild.
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Nov 28 @ 9:51 AM ET
MJLs not wrong. If they were going to "rebuild" you don't trade young players and assets for older players. If you don't like the young players you trade them for picks or other young players. The management isn't entertaining a rebuild.
- rayc16


But they WERE rebuilding. That's the point & then hung onto the older players for some reason.

I still trade Couturier.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Nov 28 @ 9:55 AM ET
Flyers win tonight
- rayc16
Wish I knew you personally cause I'd like to place a bet. I don't see it. Then the Flyers play the Rags Wednesday. They catch a break that isn't a back to back now, so maybe they have a fighting chance. The Rags and Devs are fast teams. I hate em both, but both those teams have young players that can actually play at the NHL level.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Nov 28 @ 9:55 AM ET
MJLs not wrong. If they were going to "rebuild" you don't trade young players and assets for older players. If you don't like the young players you trade them for picks or other young players. The management isn't entertaining a rebuild.
- rayc16


what good young players did we lose?
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Nov 28 @ 10:14 AM ET
Jake was obviously the problem. Everything's fine now. Cam is awesome defensively. Stanley Cup here we come!
- Tomahawk


What were the other options? He also wanted to move on. But doesn’t matter. We had to clear cap. Saved 2.3 mil and got a player back that can play in the top 9. Supply goals and better defensively.

So what is you solution? Who would’ve been your cap casualty.

So we can move on and the same nonsense won’t be posted daily. But not surprised. Same people still talking about Ron.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Nov 28 @ 10:31 AM ET
Bill

When will you do a prospect update? There are still some at the college level who might surprise or any hope elsewhere ?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 28 @ 10:41 AM ET
Dude, they changed the culture. Only a matter of time until that kicks in.
- MJL

Cliff Cliff Cliff when are you going to comprehend and accept that changing the culture doesn't have to equate to winning.

hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 28 @ 10:43 AM ET
The best thing that could happen to this organization is if coots goes down long term. They would have no ability to win. Easiest way to tank
- Just5

Best thing that can happen is they continue to lose. No need to wish injury on anyone.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 28 @ 10:45 AM ET
The Flyers have put major road blocks in their way in the last few years to rebuilding the team.
- MJL

The failure to draft and develop properly is the biggest roadblock. Signing middle of the road free agent also doesn't help.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Nov 28 @ 11:02 AM ET
The Flyers have put major road blocks in their way in the last few years to rebuilding the team.
- MJL

Can you explain these roadblocks ?
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Nov 28 @ 11:03 AM ET
The failure to draft and develop properly is the biggest roadblock. Signing middle of the road free agent also doesn't help.
- hello it's me 2050


well ronnie had 8 first round picks so we must be in good shape with our prospects
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 28 @ 11:03 AM ET
NAK has more points with the AVs than the entire 4th line has all year I believe. Good thing they kept nate and brown.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 28 @ 11:05 AM ET
well ronnie had 8 first round picks so we must be in good shape with our prospects
- bradster

Plenty of blame to go around and yet Cliff thinks Saint Ronnie did a very good job. Has nothing to do with the current state of the team at all
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