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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 26 @ 5:11 PM ET


One of Konecny or Farabee should be traded. Fairly skilled players whose work effort is inconsistent. They're easily taken off the puck and don't win many puck battles. They both have a tendency to be out of position in the defensive zone, causing them to run around aimlessly. They get spent in, get tired and then make poor puck decisions leading to giveaways. They're basically the same player. We don't need both of them.

- GeorgeBailey


What do you want them to get for Konecny or Farabee?
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 26 @ 5:13 PM ET
we know how he was here under AV, you think that wouldve changed this year?
- bradster


If a coach doesn't know how to make full use of a good player, then get rid of the coach, not the player.

Ghost is playing Provorov minutes right now in ARI, btw... top-pair minutes and handling it well. The team around him is a shambles but he's rising above it all.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Nov 26 @ 5:13 PM ET
Wow. Canes made that look entirely too easy
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 26 @ 5:14 PM ET
I know, its just comical .. Provey and Braun have been brutal, yet you never hear a peep from him!
- jd250


What don't you get. You made the post about Ristolainen and said you don't think he was at fault for any of the 3 goals he was out against on.

Do you not recall the post I made in the first period where I said that they played with basically one line?

This is what happens when you ally yourself with certain entities.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Nov 26 @ 5:14 PM ET
WTF! How does that happen to a professional hockey team, there was absolutely no one guarding the weak side!!!!
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Nov 26 @ 5:14 PM ET
Just a reminder that Chuck Fletcher traded this guy and two picks away for nothing:




Up to 15 points in 20 games, +0 on a team that's -37.

- Tomahawk



Same guy that any team in the entire league could of had for free….I guess the other 30 GMs dropped the ball as well?
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Nov 26 @ 5:14 PM ET
What do you want them to get for Konecny or Farabee?
- MJL


My god. If we’re talking about trading bee, we’re going into 5 year rebuild.
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Nov 26 @ 5:15 PM ET
This team sucks
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Nov 26 @ 5:15 PM ET
If a coach doesn't know how to make full use of a good player, then get rid of the coach, not the player.

Ghost is playing Provorov minutes right now in ARI, btw... top-pair minutes and handling it well. The team around him is a shambles but he's rising above it all.

- Tomahawk


i hear ya, unfortunately people believe we sucked because covid.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Nov 26 @ 5:15 PM ET
What don't you get. You made the post about Ristolainen and said you don't think he was at fault for any of the 3 goals he was out against on.

Do you not recall the post I made in the first period where I said that they played with basically one line?

This is what happens when you ally yourself with certain entities.

- MJL

And I agreed with you! But look at the last Hurricane goal, Risto was on the ice again, but was that his fault too?? There were no Flyers on the left wing there, how can that possibly happen??
matman31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: In Cognito
Joined: 12.14.2005

Nov 26 @ 5:16 PM ET
Can we unplug the organization and reboot it?
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Nov 26 @ 5:17 PM ET
Same guy that any team in the entire league could of had for free….I guess the other 30 GMs dropped the ball as well?
- landros 2


true also, i was shocked, he was on pace for 18 goals over 82 games......18...for a D man. and no one wanted him
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 26 @ 5:17 PM ET
Same guy that any team in the entire league could of had for free….I guess the other 30 GMs dropped the ball as well?
- landros 2


It's plainly obvious that they all did.
Bendecko
Location: Cave Putorium
Joined: 02.29.2020

Nov 26 @ 5:17 PM ET
This team sucks
- THE BLACK HAND

You can say that again
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Nov 26 @ 5:18 PM ET
Just a reminder that Chuck Fletcher traded this guy and two picks away for nothing:




Up to 15 points in 20 games, +0 on a team that's -37.

- Tomahawk


He’s been mediocre 5v5.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 26 @ 5:18 PM ET
And I agreed with you! But look at the last Hurricane goal, Risto was on the ice again, but was that his fault too?? There were no Flyers on the left wing there, how can that possibly happen??
- jd250


I'll let you know after I watch the replay. The Flyers have had issues sorting out coverages all year.

You didn't agree with me, you whined.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Nov 26 @ 5:18 PM ET
I don't know what to make of this.
Even with the injuries, which every team has to deal with, this team consistently appears to be outworked. Are they universally that slow? Are they lazy? Is the system that disorganized? Or are they incapable of executing?

I doubt the defensive zone break out scheme is predicated on a soft chip up the boards to a winger with his back to the blue line. Or that in the defensive zone when play is reversed up the far boards that the other team's defenseman is there well before our winger.

They just get beaten on too many puck battles and our forwards are too easily ridden off the puck by the other team's defensemen. This team is softer and slower than the Pillsbury Dough Boy.

One of Konecny or Farabee should be traded. Fairly skilled players whose work effort is inconsistent. They're easily taken off the puck and don't win many puck battles. They both have a tendency to be out of position in the defensive zone, causing them to run around aimlessly. They get spent in, get tired and then make poor puck decisions leading to giveaways. They're basically the same player. We don't need both of them.

- GeorgeBailey


I can think of 15 guys I would trade before Farabee or Konecny…I guess that’s just me.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Nov 26 @ 5:18 PM ET
How annoyed are the company fools that everything I've said about this franchise is true. Got to be tough to swallow.
THE EVIL WITHIN
Season Ticket Holder
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Nov 26 @ 5:18 PM ET
Boooooo
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Nov 26 @ 5:19 PM ET
At this point I’m all for launching the entire team, including GM, into space and starting over again.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 26 @ 5:19 PM ET
Hey, the Flyers have scored 3 goals in this game. That's progress, right?

Unfortunately they gave up 4 goals in that period.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Nov 26 @ 5:20 PM ET
Same guy that any team in the entire league could of had for free….I guess the other 30 GMs dropped the ball as well?
- landros 2


Not quite though, right? He had a significant contract (late in the season when he went on waivers) that other teams would have to pick up.


Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 26 @ 5:20 PM ET
He’s been mediocre 5v5.
- Peter Richards


Not like the Flyers need any help on the PP, right?
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Nov 26 @ 5:20 PM ET
And I agreed with you! But look at the last Hurricane goal, Risto was on the ice again, but was that his fault too?? There were no Flyers on the left wing there, how can that possibly happen??
- jd250


Risto is not the problem at all.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 26 @ 5:20 PM ET
At this point I’m all for launching the entire team, including GM, into space and starting over again.
- Dkos


All the right moves were made in the off season. The problem players were moved out and the culture was changed. Fletcher for GM of the year.
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