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Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Nov 29 @ 12:30 PM ET
Sure, if you have drafted lots of talent, then by all means, you make a run for it by adding a couple players, but adding 3 or 4 players and going all-in to make the playoffs will keep any team in a state of mediocrity, for many years.
- Reubenkincade

EP, Boeser, Horvat, Hoglander, Hughes, Podkolzin. Would have liked a little more defensive talent drafted, specifically a RHD, but that is some drafted talent.
IMO Benning failed and we have the assets and talent to truly retool this team, our core is young and no longer passed their prime like when Benning took over.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 29 @ 12:31 PM ET
That is almost as bad as some guy on a different site offering Kerfoot, Dermot and a 2nd for Miller.
- Reubenkincade

Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Nov 29 @ 12:32 PM ET
I copied this from another blog. I have no opinion on it, I just thought it might be interesting to you.
- HenryHockey

If Braden Schneider is not part of the deal for Horvat, we shouldn't be interested.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 29 @ 12:34 PM ET
Projected points.

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 29 @ 12:36 PM ET
I copied this from another blog. I have no opinion on it, I just thought it might be interesting to you.
- HenryHockey

Maybe if Strome wasn't an UFA at the end of the season. He is a right shot centre that the Canucks could desperately use. He would probably want a bit of a raise and Horvat still has another year at 5.5.

I'd take a first but Gettinger isn't near enough.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Nov 29 @ 12:38 PM ET
Projected points.


- VanHockeyGuy

Imagine winning the draft lottery this year
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Nov 29 @ 12:39 PM ET
Gretzky, Eichel, Bouquet, Coffey and many other pretty good players have been traded, but the Canucks, one of the worst teams over the past 5 years, have 5 or 6 untouchables.

Lmfao

- Reubenkincade


I don’t think anyone is saying some Canuck players are too good to trade. I think most are trying to salvage something from the last decade so it wasn’t a total and complete waste of time, money, and energy. You don’t spend 10 years rebuilding only to get to a point where you need to spend another 10 years rebuilding.

Who in their right mind would run a business that way?
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 29 @ 12:39 PM ET
I did one for Nucker!

Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Nov 29 @ 12:40 PM ET
we're a skill team
- VanHockeyGuy


I am not sure what this team is, other than extremely soft.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 29 @ 12:40 PM ET
Imagine winning the draft lottery this year
- NorthNuck


Never happen.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 29 @ 12:41 PM ET
EP, Boeser, Horvat, Hoglander, Hughes, Podkolzin. Would have liked a little more defensive talent drafted, specifically a RHD, but that is some drafted talent.
IMO Benning failed and we have the assets and talent to truly retool this team, our core is young and no longer passed their prime like when Benning took over.

- Retinalz

It's got some big holes.

Who would have thought that losing Beagle and Sutter would hurt this bad.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 29 @ 12:42 PM ET
It's got some big holes.

Who would have thought that losing Beagle and Sutter would hurt this bad.

- manvanfan


I've never had a problem with Sutter when he was healthy.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Nov 29 @ 12:43 PM ET
EP, Boeser, Horvat, Hoglander, Hughes, Podkolzin. Would have liked a little more defensive talent drafted, specifically a RHD, but that is some drafted talent.
IMO Benning failed and we have the assets and talent to truly retool this team, our core is young and no longer passed their prime like when Benning took over.

- Retinalz


I like Horvat, Hoglander and Podkolzin, they play hard every game, even Hughes has tightened up his game somewhat, Pouty and Boeser not so much.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Nov 29 @ 12:44 PM ET
If Braden Schneider is not part of the deal for Horvat, we shouldn't be interested.
- Retinalz


Agreed. 👍

Edit; he is another player that the Canucks would have had a shot at, if they wouldn't have traded for Miller.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Nov 29 @ 12:45 PM ET
I don’t think anyone is saying some Canuck players are too good to trade. I think most are trying to salvage something from the last decade so it wasn’t a total and complete waste of time, money, and energy. You don’t spend 10 years rebuilding only to get to a point where you need to spend another 10 years rebuilding.

Who in their right mind would run a business that way?

- bloatedmosquito


Buffalo and Arizona come to mind.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 29 @ 12:46 PM ET
It's got some big holes.

Who would have thought that losing Beagle and Sutter would hurt this bad.

- manvanfan

Whenever you lose vets than can play that 200' game always hurts.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 29 @ 12:46 PM ET
I've never had a problem with Sutter when he was healthy.
- VanHockeyGuy

My problem with Sutter was how much he was getting paid. Green's usage of him and his black hole of offence.

In a 4th liner role that kills PK for 900K a year, playing 10 minutes a night I think I could get behind.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 29 @ 12:48 PM ET
I like Horvat, Hoglander and Podkolzin, they play hard every game, even Hughes has tightened up his game somewhat, Pouty and Boeser not so much.
- Reubenkincade

I wonder if he is healthy.
I-own_da-Northwest
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cariboo, BC
Joined: 08.08.2009

Nov 29 @ 12:49 PM ET
theScore
@theScore
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21m
Brad Marchand to have hearing for slew-footing Oliver Ekman-Larsson.

- VANTEL


Tar and Feather the (frank)er
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Nov 29 @ 12:49 PM ET
Montreal has done what Vancouver should have done after 2011. It's absolutely unbelievable that Montreal has made drastic changes to their front office faster than Vancouver has.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Nov 29 @ 12:50 PM ET
I wonder if he is healthy.
- manvanfan


I wonder if he trained in the off-season, or was it another party summer for him.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 29 @ 12:50 PM ET
Montreal has done what Vancouver should have done after 2011. It's absolutely unbelievable that Montreal has made drastic changes to their front office faster than Vancouver has.
- Codes1087


Ownership is still firmly behind this group apparently.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Nov 29 @ 12:51 PM ET
Montreal has done what Vancouver should have done after 2011. It's absolutely unbelievable that Montreal has made drastic changes to their front office faster than Vancouver has.
- Codes1087


Well said.
I took some flack on some other sites for suggesting that, back then.

If I recall correctly, several people took some flack on this site for suggesting the same thing.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Nov 29 @ 12:52 PM ET
I don’t think anyone is saying some Canuck players are too good to trade. I think most are trying to salvage something from the last decade so it wasn’t a total and complete waste of time, money, and energy. You don’t spend 10 years rebuilding only to get to a point where you need to spend another 10 years rebuilding.

Who in their right mind would run a business that way?

- bloatedmosquito


You’ve missed his point, which is that no player is untouchable, not that every player is forsaken.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Nov 29 @ 12:54 PM ET
I am not sure what this team is, other than extremely soft.
- Reubenkincade


At some point, we all have to accept that pro hockey is going soft. The days of the Broad Street bullies or Charlestown Chiefs are over. The league has done everything they can to eliminate toughness out of the game and replace it with finesse.
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