But they'd get better parking
- DaveofYork

And they'd have better wheels.

*&*^UNSUBSCRIBE%$#

That is one hell of a goal. Great effort.
- SuperSchennBros

Yep....but embarrassing that we are more likely to score on the shorthand then the PP.

I think the Flyers PP tonight had a chance to do something if TK could simple collect a pass!

Back to back shorties wow what legendary PK 😆
- THE EVIL WITHIN

The PP is the PK and the PK is the PP. It's upside down world in Flyerland

I posted the other night during the Canes game that I think its time to move on from G, if this year continues to head in its current direction, its better for the CF to trade G at the deadline and get something for him.
- jd250

Problem is I don't have much faith in CF getting any real value. I'd hope for a 1 in the upcoming draft and a decent prospect.

The PP is the PK and the PK is the PP. It's upside down world in Flyerland
- Letterkenney

I guess that's why the ice always seems tilted

well, historically the overload system works when you have the players that can execute it. I mean AV has brought two teams to the finals and he would have won the cup in Vancouver if Luongo didn't puke on his skates. However its up to the GM to bring in the players that can execute it, and right now its clear to me these players can't.
- jd250

Historically it works when you have the players that can execute it. How is that different from any other system? Are you aware of what it actually is?

But they'd get better parking
- DaveofYork

🤪😝

Problem is I don't have much faith in CF getting any real value. I'd hope for a 1 in the upcoming draft and a decent prospect.
- DANCER

Here's hoping, but it may not be that good

People get all worked up at the use of that term. Maybe "rebuild/full rebuild" is a more neutral term.

Its not like it is like throwing a game or a season. Look at the people who have overseen critical rebuilds in recent years: Shanahan in Leafs, Yzerman in Detroit, Roy/Sacic in Colorado. If its good enough for HOFers, why isn't it good enough for Hextall/Holmgren/Chuck?

In all these rebuilds, key players who were at the peak of their careers were shipped elsewhere. Leafs sent Kessels packing. Avs sent Duchene and Varlamov and Stastny (I think). Wings sent Mantha, who was averaging about 65 points a season pace over the last 2 seasons, and was only 27. Tampa sent Richards and Boyle away before the 2 drafts leading to Stamkos/Hedman. At that time, Richards was 26 and the previous 3 seasons was averaging almost a ppg.

The strategy is pretty simple. You identify the young guys who are going to be part of the future and keep them. You let many star veterans go for the most part if it is unlikely they will play a part when that future comes. The mentorship is done by supplemental vets, not star players tied to long, expensive contracts.

Here, if you dare mention that guys like Couts or Voracek or Giroux are definitely good, even very good players but at the wrong time for the team, zillions of people's are in arms. We sign and keep every frikking player until they are way, way past their prime.


And you wonder why we can't contend? What gives us the right to believe we can contend when we want the team to be relevant even when rebuilding? Other teams are willing to endure more pain; Its only deserving they are better repaid.
- PT21

And people love to point out the Edmonton’s and buffalos who failed , they’re usually just crap organizations. Obviously Edmonton lucked out with a top 5 all time player but you get it. Is picking at 15 more honorable lol, look at the bag of piss that is out on the ice now.

Problem is I don't have much faith in CF getting any real value. I'd hope for a 1 in the upcoming draft and a decent prospect.
- DANCER

Oh, I think he'll get that at least, there will be a lot of contending teams that would want Giroux for their playoff run. The question is, does CF have the nuts to trade G? I would if the team was not looking like they could make a serious run.

And people love to point out the Edmonton’s and buffalos who failed , they’re usually just crap organizations. Obviously Edmonton lucked out with a top 5 all time player but you get it. Is picking at 15 more honorable lol, look at the bag of piss that is out on the ice now.
- ClaudeFather

Flyers are kind of a crap organization too, tho.

People get all worked up at the use of that term. Maybe "rebuild/full rebuild" is a more neutral term.

Its not like it is like throwing a game or a season. Look at the people who have overseen critical rebuilds in recent years: Shanahan in Leafs, Yzerman in Detroit, Roy/Sacic in Colorado. If its good enough for HOFers, why isn't it good enough for Hextall/Holmgren/Chuck?

In all these rebuilds, key players who were at the peak of their careers were shipped elsewhere. Leafs sent Kessels packing. Avs sent Duchene and Varlamov and Stastny (I think). Wings sent Mantha, who was averaging about 65 points a season pace over the last 2 seasons, and was only 27. Tampa sent Richards and Boyle away before the 2 drafts leading to Stamkos/Hedman. At that time, Richards was 26 and the previous 3 seasons was averaging almost a ppg.

The strategy is pretty simple. You identify the young guys who are going to be part of the future and keep them. You let many star veterans go for the most part if it is unlikely they will play a part when that future comes. The mentorship is done by supplemental vets, not star players tied to long, expensive contracts.

Here, if you dare mention that guys like Couts or Voracek or Giroux are definitely good, even very good players but at the wrong time for the team, zillions of people's are in arms. We sign and keep every frikking player until they are way, way past their prime.


And you wonder why we can't contend? What gives us the right to believe we can contend when we want the team to be relevant even when rebuilding? Other teams are willing to endure more pain; Its only deserving they are better repaid.
- PT21

You still struggle with understanding what tanking is. Tanking is not trading vet players that are not part of the future for future assets. Tanking is intentionally fielding a non competitive team in order to secure a higher draft position.

I guess that's why the ice always seems tilted
- DaveofYork

You're learning well, grasshopper!

I think the Flyers PP tonight had a chance to do something if TK could simple collect a pass!
- jd250

Sanheim also on a point pass.

Historically it works when you have the players that can execute it. How is that different from any other system? Are you aware of what it actually is?
- MJL

is it depth players that do it?

Still waiting....

Just answer via another poster... You can do it and keep your list in tack

Flyers are kind of a crap organization too, tho.
- Tomahawk

Lol well yea, look at what we have

Historically it works when you have the players that can execute it. How is that different from any other system? Are you aware of what it actually is?
- MJL

Its not, the point simply is you have to have the right players to play any system, and right now the Flyers don't have the players to play their current system, its clear when I see TK skating backwards to nowhere with Hamilton left alone in the slot. For whatever reason, call it hockey IQ if you like, TK can't play this defensive system.

Sanheim also on a point pass.
- MJL

Is he part of the depth?

And people love to point out the Edmonton’s and buffalos who failed , they’re usually just crap organizations. Obviously Edmonton lucked out with a top 5 all time player but you get it. Is picking at 15 more honorable lol, look at the bag of piss that is out on the ice now.
- ClaudeFather

It is true though there is no guarantee with the rebuild. Thing is, there is even less of a guarantee with the bubble team rebuild. Look at the Habs. Look at the Wild.

Sanheim also on a point pass.
- MJL

Horrible passing.

Its not, the point simply is you have to have the right players to play any system, and right now the Flyers don't have the players to play their current system, its clear when I see TK skating backwards to nowhere with Hamilton left alone in the slot. For whatever reason, call it hockey IQ if you like, TK can't play this defensive system.
- jd250

TK is the only one?

Horrible passing.
- Hextall271

huh?

TK is the only one?
- MJL

No ... not by a long shot. That is just one recent example on a mountain of examples.

Is he part of the depth?
- konalover711

lol