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JetFuel
Joined: 10.08.2019

Dec 5 @ 9:00 AM ET
There is a fine line between persistence and 'doing the same thing and expecting a different result'.

Coach is digging in and doubling down on what he thinks should work. Isn't that how it goes? that when someone is failing and flailing they do increasingly more of what is causing them to fail and flail somehow thinking it will save them.

- 2.0


I'm sure there's a dictionary somewhere that under the definition of insanity there's just a picture of Paul Maurice and a scribble of his line combinations.
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Dec 5 @ 10:28 AM ET
I'm looking very forward to the Jets vs Leafs tonight. Lots of positives for the Jets here coming into the game . Marner will not play, Leafs on the back of a back-to-back +overtime , Jets coming off an 8-goal win and relatively well-rested.

Should be an exciting game , as it is any time the Leafs come to town. I believe the Jets should win this one by a 2 goal margin.
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Dec 5 @ 11:01 AM ET
I'm looking very forward to the Jets vs Leafs tonight. Lots of positives for the Jets here coming into the game . Marner will not play, Leafs on the back of a back-to-back +overtime , Jets coming off an 8-goal win and relatively well-rested.

Should be an exciting game , as it is any time the Leafs come to town. I believe the Jets should win this one by a 2 goal margin.

- jetsnation


Win by a two goal margin? You're a brave person Jets Nation! lol

What you do have going for you is that it is thought the Leafs back-up tender will play - and the fact the Jets usually lose when we expect them to win, and vice-versa.

What we don't have going for us is the fact the Jets PP and PK is still a mess - even with the lop-sided victory on Friday. IF we can get those straightened out, you could be correct. I certainly hope you are correct!
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Dec 5 @ 7:35 PM ET
Win by a two goal margin? You're a brave person Jets Nation! lol

What you do have going for you is that it is thought the Leafs back-up tender will play - and the fact the Jets usually lose when we expect them to win, and vice-versa.

What we don't have going for us is the fact the Jets PP and PK is still a mess - even with the lop-sided victory on Friday. IF we can get those straightened out, you could be correct. I certainly hope you are correct!

- grahamzky


The one positive we should all note is that the Jets would have probably won or got points from 3 or 4 of those games they have lost (over the past 8 games ) if in fact the PP had been working. The bottom line is if they can get it working again they should start winning games on a more regular basis. You can bet Maurice and his staff is well aware and has been working hard on getting it right. Only time will tell if they have found a way to improve it to where it was early in the season.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Dec 5 @ 8:18 PM ET
Sarah Baxter singing the anthem tonight. Should have just kept Daniel Greaves.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Dec 5 @ 8:21 PM ET
I'm sure there's a dictionary somewhere that under the definition of insanity there's just a picture of Paul Maurice and a scribble of his line combinations.
- JetFuel


I am sure Jets ownership and Chevelallseasoff would be there as well. It’s been 8 years of the same coach and we don’t get anywhere.
JetFuel
Joined: 10.08.2019

Dec 5 @ 11:25 PM ET
I am sure Jets ownership and Chevelallseasoff would be there as well. It’s been 8 years of the same coach and we don’t get anywhere.
- TheUltimateJet


The definition of insanity is still rolling Lowry out at 3C, how many grade A scoring chances did Vesalainen put on Lowry's stick just to have it amount to nothing?!
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Dec 5 @ 11:40 PM ET
The definition of insanity is still rolling Lowry out at 3C, how many grade A scoring chances did Vesalainen put on Lowry's stick just to have it amount to nothing?!
- JetFuel


I agree. Today was a fun game to watch though. I really liked that we had 6 different goal scorers and we did what any good team should be doing and that is taking advantage of a tired Leafs team coming off of a back-to-back.

I have though seen this dog and pony show before, whereas we look good for a few games and then all of a sudden are mired in a long losing slump. I was hoping that we would have gotten Boudreau to be our coach.

It also appears that if we have different anthem singers, we perform better.

It sure was a great day to be a Winnipeg sports fan today! Go BLUE!!!!
JetFuel
Joined: 10.08.2019

Dec 6 @ 12:32 AM ET
I agree. Today was a fun game to watch though. I really liked that we had 6 different goal scorers and we did what any good team should be doing and that is taking advantage of a tired Leafs team coming off of a back-to-back.

I have though seen this dog and pony show before, whereas we look good for a few games and then all of a sudden are mired in a long losing slump. I was hoping that we would have gotten Boudreau to be our coach.

It also appears that if we have different anthem singers, we perform better.

It sure was a great day to be a Winnipeg sports fan today! Go BLUE!!!!

- TheUltimateJet


Yes it was fun to watch and getting scoring from multiple players and lines is very good to see, have been saying it for years, this team needs more production from its 3rd and 4th lines, they need to be more then just time wasters and penalty killers!

While it was a fun game we shouldn't get too excited about it, yes the Leafs are a very good team but they played last night, traveled, were without Marner and that was their 3rd or 4th string goaltender in net who is also a rookie.
Old Flopper
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 08.06.2020

Dec 6 @ 9:48 AM ET
I agree. Today was a fun game to watch though. I really liked that we had 6 different goal scorers and we did what any good team should be doing and that is taking advantage of a tired Leafs team coming off of a back-to-back.

I have though seen this dog and pony show before, whereas we look good for a few games and then all of a sudden are mired in a long losing slump. I was hoping that we would have gotten Boudreau to be our coach.

It also appears that if we have different anthem singers, we perform better.

It sure was a great day to be a Winnipeg sports fan today! Go BLUE!!!!

- TheUltimateJet


What about the announcers, do you think that has a bearing on how the game goes as well?

With Leah going 0 - 2...... just asking your thoughts?
Old Flopper
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 08.06.2020

Dec 6 @ 10:01 AM ET
BTW, speaking of anthem singers, the fella that does the US / Cdn anthem playing the guitar is awesome.

I am not sure what his win / loss record is but I think he does an awesome job!
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Dec 6 @ 11:15 AM ET
Just an observation from the Leafs PP , which has been one of the best in the NHL. They were 9 for 10 in zone entries when dropping the pack back first. Maurice still seems to ignore this method and while the Jets did get three PP goals their zone entry was still a much much lower percentage than the Leafs. Lately its been under 50% success rate. If they want to improve the PP then they need to first gain the zone at which point good things can happen.

Congrats to Wheeler on his 1000th game. He has looked much sharper the past three games. Maybe the Covid effects are wearing off but more probable is that he performs better on a line with Connor and Schief. It's hard to make arguments that this line doesn't work in most games. Ehlers also seems comfortable with Dubois and Copp.

14 goals in two games, not bad.....not bad at all....and I'm now three of three in my pre-game predictions on game outcomes this year.
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Dec 6 @ 11:46 AM ET
Just an observation from the Leafs PP , which has been one of the best in the NHL. They were 9 for 10 in zone entries when dropping the pack back first. Maurice still seems to ignore this method and while the Jets did get three PP goals their zone entry was still a much much lower percentage than the Leafs. Lately its been under 50% success rate. If they want to improve the PP then they need to first gain the zone at which point good things can happen.

Congrats to Wheeler on his 1000th game. He has looked much sharper the past three games. Maybe the Covid effects are wearing off but more probable is that he performs better on a line with Connor and Schief. It's hard to make arguments that this line doesn't work in most games. Ehlers also seems comfortable with Dubois and Copp.

14 goals in two games, not bad.....not bad at all....and I'm now three of three in my pre-game predictions on game outcomes this year.

- jetsnation


But didn't you only predict a two-goal victory? lol
2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

Dec 6 @ 11:49 AM ET
I have watched the alleged 'knee-on-knee' contact between Pionk and Sandin about a dozen times and all I see is Pionk looking for contact, no extension of his leg toward Sandin (if anything he pull his feet together before contact). Sandin's leg is extended into Pionk resulting in unfortunate injury.

The response from Toronto was wierd and over the top, Spezza likely gets fined for a dangerous hit, maybe O'Keefe for gooning it up.
AxlRose91
Joined: 09.24.2013

Dec 6 @ 1:25 PM ET
I have watched the alleged 'knee-on-knee' contact between Pionk and Sandin about a dozen times and all I see is Pionk looking for contact, no extension of his leg toward Sandin (if anything he pull his feet together before contact). Sandin's leg is extended into Pionk resulting in unfortunate injury.

The response from Toronto was wierd and over the top, Spezza likely gets fined for a dangerous hit, maybe O'Keefe for gooning it up.

- 2.0


Those are some Jets-coloured glasses you’re wearing, lol

Pionk likely gets 3 games, or something in that neighborhood. Blatantly dirty play. Not sure if Pionk has a history, but that was very black and white. Hope Sandin is ok

Spezza will be fined for the response, doubtful he gets a suspension

JetFuel
Joined: 10.08.2019

Dec 6 @ 2:11 PM ET
Those are some Jets-coloured glasses you’re wearing, lol

Pionk likely gets 3 games, or something in that neighborhood. Blatantly dirty play. Not sure if Pionk has a history, but that was very black and white. Hope Sandin is ok

Spezza will be fined for the response, doubtful he gets a suspension

- AxlRose91


Just a fine for dropping his knee onto a guys head who's laying on the ice?

Well, Parros is really bad at his job so it's possible I guess.
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Dec 6 @ 2:44 PM ET
Those are some Jets-coloured glasses you’re wearing, lol

Pionk likely gets 3 games, or something in that neighborhood. Blatantly dirty play. Not sure if Pionk has a history, but that was very black and white. Hope Sandin is ok

Spezza will be fined for the response, doubtful he gets a suspension

- AxlRose91


My call on this is that Pionk gets nothing because he did nothing intentionally. It was a slightly missed body check that unfortunately ended up catching the knee.

Spezza's hit was very intentional and highly dangerous. He gets at least 2 games.
wesveness
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 05.31.2021

Dec 6 @ 2:48 PM ET
Nash put on waivers.... that experiment didn't go as planned. Never mind getting PP min over others... The coach and GM both handed Nash bad and put him in spots he should've never been in. Hopefully Maurice being so loyal to the Vets might've played his last card with the re-print of that article in Car 10 years ago.
Old Flopper
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 08.06.2020

Dec 6 @ 3:01 PM ET
Just an observation from the Leafs PP , which has been one of the best in the NHL. They were 9 for 10 in zone entries when dropping the pack back first. Maurice still seems to ignore this method and while the Jets did get three PP goals their zone entry was still a much much lower percentage than the Leafs. Lately its been under 50% success rate. If they want to improve the PP then they need to first gain the zone at which point good things can happen.

Congrats to Wheeler on his 1000th game. He has looked much sharper the past three games. Maybe the Covid effects are wearing off but more probable is that he performs better on a line with Connor and Schief. It's hard to make arguments that this line doesn't work in most games. Ehlers also seems comfortable with Dubois and Copp.

14 goals in two games, not bad.....not bad at all....and I'm now three of three in my pre-game predictions on game outcomes this year.

- jetsnation


Speaking of Copp, I was one who didn't think he had it in him to play Top 6. But, clearly he can and he seems to be progressively getting better and better.

Copp had an absolutely great game last night. Defensively awesome and that breakaway fighting off two defenders, wow.

As his confidence grows, I hope he can get re-signed somehow.
Old Flopper
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 08.06.2020

Dec 6 @ 3:13 PM ET
Nash put on waivers.... that experiment didn't go as planned. Never mind getting PP min over others... The coach and GM both handed Nash bad and put him in spots he should've never been in. Hopefully Maurice being so loyal to the Vets might've played his last card with the re-print of that article in Car 10 years ago.
- wesveness


Yes, if he is not on the big squad, can't play 1st PP, lol.

I doubt it was Chevy's intention to see a 13 / 14 player emergency callup wind up on the 1st PP when he signed him.

A Moneyball GM decision, coach can't play HIM if he is not here.....lol
AxlRose91
Joined: 09.24.2013

Dec 6 @ 3:38 PM ET
Just a fine for dropping his knee onto a guys head who's laying on the ice?

Well, Parros is really bad at his job so it's possible I guess.

- JetFuel


Knee to the head was actually Dubois on the Leafs goalie

Spezza was shoulder to chest, albeit while Pionk was nearly on the ground. Dirty, for sure, but very much deserved. Pionk’s play was intentional and could really have hurt Sandin badly
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Dec 6 @ 4:28 PM ET
Knee to the head was actually Dubois on the Leafs goalie

Spezza was shoulder to chest, albeit while Pionk was nearly on the ground. Dirty, for sure, but very much deserved. Pionk’s play was intentional and could really have hurt Sandin badly

- AxlRose91

Shoulder to chest? Are you high? The replay shows knee to the head in the most predatory intent to injure way possible. Comparing what spezza did to Pionk or PLD is a joke, pionk’s
Play was a two minute penalty. Spezza deserves 5 games wi the out question. Dubois deserved a two minute penalty for man handling a Mathews but I enjoyed watching it and I’ll enjoy it again.
Also, we all
Know Mariners not hurt. He just doesn’t like playing tougher teams
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Dec 6 @ 4:55 PM ET
Nash put on waivers.... that experiment didn't go as planned. Never mind getting PP min over others... The coach and GM both handed Nash bad and put him in spots he should've never been in. Hopefully Maurice being so loyal to the Vets might've played his last card with the re-print of that article in Car 10 years ago.
- wesveness


Perfect - Nash on waivers! Should get claimed - who wouldn't want a cheap power play, penalty kill specialist?

Although it might not happen right away, this should lead to David Gustafsson's recall putting him back where he belongs, the NHL. But not sure who will sit when this happens. Toninato has been playing well.

Although he was/is a decent player, kind of glad the Kraken selected Appleton - allowing us to keep both Stanley and DeMelo, who both showed last night why they are valuable. Harkins, Vesalainen or Svechnikov easily replace Appleton.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Dec 6 @ 4:56 PM ET
What about the announcers, do you think that has a bearing on how the game goes as well?

With Leah going 0 - 2...... just asking your thoughts?

- Old Flopper


Just judging based on the uproar that Leah created it appears that they do. I really like that Boston Bruins anthem singer, it appears that when he’s on his game, the whole experience becomes more exciting!
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Dec 6 @ 4:57 PM ET
Shoulder to chest? Are you high? The replay shows knee to the head in the most predatory intent to injure way possible. Comparing what spezza did to Pionk or PLD is a joke, pionk’s
Play was a two minute penalty. Spezza deserves 5 games wi the out question. Dubois deserved a two minute penalty for man handling a Mathews but I enjoyed watching it and I’ll enjoy it again.
Also, we all
Know Mariners not hurt. He just doesn’t like playing tougher teams

- Ross77


YES, Ross77 is back! I was really worried about you as you have not posted in a while.
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