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ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 30 @ 1:35 PM ET
What was said on this presser
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Nov 30 @ 1:36 PM ET
that was the draft and develop strategy that failed. Picks sometimes take years to make an impact as we all know.

He ruined the primes of 3 very good players. All because he had no clue on what he wanted to do. Oh my bad he had a plan.

- hello it's me 2050


Maybe more if you include simmer. He was a beast on the pp net front.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Nov 30 @ 1:36 PM ET
Playing tough teams is no excuse for being uncompetitive and disorganized and unprepared. Nobody expected them to win all these games. But they should be expected to at least look like an NHL team.
- Tomahawk

The effort has been there. They have not played well over this past 10 game stretch. Fletcher acknowledged that compared to the first 10 games of the season the team regressed in a lot of areas. But they did play much better the first 10 games, so why not see where they go from here. They clearly can play better than they have this past 10 games, they have already proven that.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Nov 30 @ 1:37 PM ET
Because it's not AV's fault the players suck right?
- BINGO!

Pretty much.

Justin Braun is on our top pair and Brassard our second line center. Ellis and Hayes hasn’t played any extended period of time this season. Why would you fire the coach if you haven’t seen a full roster play yet?
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Nov 30 @ 1:40 PM ET
If this season continues to be a dumpster fire, I can see the whole coaching staff getting axed. I don't expect CF will lose his job this quickly.
- Hextall271


No he would at least be awarded another year.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Nov 30 @ 1:40 PM ET
What was said on this presser
- ClaudeFather

Fletcher was excellent. Gave an update on all injured players, talked about how bad the PP has been since the 2014-2015 season and why (he believes its due to 1. bad zone entries and 2. lack of players with true scoring ability from the flanks; so its a personnel issue) and talked about how bad the team has looked these past 10 games versus how well they played the first 10 games. It was very insightful, you should be able to catch a replay on youtube.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 30 @ 1:40 PM ET
Fletcher: "We suck but please be patient. The franchise will be around in 10 years"
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 30 @ 1:40 PM ET
I'm as frustrated as anyone about where this team is right now, but I don't know how any serious hockey fan can watch Fletcher's presser today and walk away with the idea that this guy should be fired. Its delusional to think this. Fletcher is on top of things, that is what came across to me. He has the pulse of the team, the players, the coaches and the overall organization. I'm sorry if the facts he conveyed today did not match your own personal agenda's, but to me, he is right. We have to get this team back and see what we have before he decide what to do next. There is still plenty left in the season for the Flyers to turn this around.
- jd250

My take is Chuck is full of excuses and has no answers. His track record in Minny confirms this imo.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 30 @ 1:41 PM ET
"WAY TOO MUCH BLAME IS ATTACHED TO OUR POWERPLAY COACHES"

Well if it isn't the coaches it your job to get players. So either you have failed Chuck

Bad since I got here ....more excuses.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Nov 30 @ 1:42 PM ET
Pretty much.

Justin Braun is on our top pair and Brassard our second line center. Ellis and Hayes hasn’t played any extended period of time this season. Why would you fire the coach if you haven’t seen a full roster play yet?

- SuperSchennBros

Agreed! I don't see AV getting canned any time soon, Fletcher basically today put it on the players and I think he is right.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Nov 30 @ 1:43 PM ET
"WAY TOO MUCH BLAME IS ATTACHED TO OUR POWERPLAY COACHES"

Well if it isn't the coaches it your job to get players. So either you have failed Chuck

Bad since I got here ....more excuses.

- hello it's me 2050

The actual quote was: "WAY TOO MUCH CREDIT OR BLAME IS ATTACHED TO OUR POWERPLAY COACHES"
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Nov 30 @ 1:43 PM ET
I’m one of the morons who would have traded Konency for Laine for potential alone but that’s me.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 30 @ 1:43 PM ET
Hurray! Fletcher stated the truth: he does not have the personnel, natural goal scorers from the flank, on this roster and that is the number 1 reason the PP has stunk here since 2014-2015 season! Fletcher stated he has tried to address this in recent drafts, so good for him, HE GETS IT! Teams that have these types of players don't trade them.
- jd250


He gets it? He had assets to trade including Jake Voracek and high draft picks. Why didn't he bring in the personnel needed?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 30 @ 1:44 PM ET
He Feels bad for Lappy. Are you fn kidding me? What a schitt organization this has become.

Was once one of the best in all of sports (imo).
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 30 @ 1:45 PM ET
Yes he did, and he can certainly help the PP, but what is the cost to the other areas of the game like 5 on 5? There is a reason the Jets traded a player of his skill level.
- jd250



So is Laine a "natural goal scorer from the flank" or not?
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Nov 30 @ 1:45 PM ET
you're not just an office clown, you are a DUMB and IGNORANT OFFICE CLOWN!
- jd250

AngryJoe
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.13.2021

Nov 30 @ 1:46 PM ET
Fire Dave Scott
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Nov 30 @ 1:46 PM ET
fletcher? yeah
- BINGO!

never mind, Im DUMB and IGNORANT
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 30 @ 1:48 PM ET
I'm as frustrated as anyone about where this team is right now, but I don't know how any serious hockey fan can watch Fletcher's presser today and walk away with the idea that this guy should be fired. Its delusional to think this. Fletcher is on top of things, that is what came across to me. He has the pulse of the team, the players, the coaches and the overall organization. I'm sorry if the facts he conveyed today did not match your own personal agenda's, but to me, he is right. We have to get this team back and see what we have before he decide what to do next. There is still plenty left in the season for the Flyers to turn this around.
- jd250


He proved during the past off season that he most definitely does not have the pulse of the team. You yourself have called for a rebuild. You are contradicting yourself. Again, look at the disorganization and dysfunction with the team on the ice. Just getting Hayes and Ellis back does not fix that. Their return is not imminent. A week or two of continued play at this level pretty much means the season is over.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 30 @ 1:49 PM ET
The actual quote was: "WAY TOO MUCH CREDIT OR BLAME IS ATTACHED TO OUR POWERPLAY COACHES"
- jd250

Just excuses. He has zero answers. Coaches have no answers.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 30 @ 1:49 PM ET
never mind, Im DUMB and IGNORANT
- THE BLACK HAND

Add in chump as well.
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Nov 30 @ 1:50 PM ET
Fletcher was excellent. Gave an update on all injured players, talked about how bad the PP has been since the 2014-2015 season and why (he believes its due to 1. bad zone entries and 2. lack of players with true scoring ability from the flanks; so its a personnel issue) and talked about how bad the team has looked these past 10 games versus how well they played the first 10 games. It was very insightful, you should be able to catch a replay on youtube.
- jd250


You ride Fletcher more than what you accuse MJL doing for Hextall. Youre a (frank)ing joke
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 30 @ 1:51 PM ET
The effort has been there. They have not played well over this past 10 game stretch. Fletcher acknowledged that compared to the first 10 games of the season the team regressed in a lot of areas. But they did play much better the first 10 games, so why not see where they go from here. They clearly can play better than they have this past 10 games, they have already proven that.
- jd250


Better than the disaster they currently are? Sure. However they did not play well overall.
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Nov 30 @ 1:51 PM ET
Add in chump as well.
- hello it's me 2050

Keep swinging from my nutsack, Nubsey
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 30 @ 1:52 PM ET
Fletcher was excellent. Gave an update on all injured players, talked about how bad the PP has been since the 2014-2015 season and why (he believes its due to 1. bad zone entries and 2. lack of players with true scoring ability from the flanks; so its a personnel issue) and talked about how bad the team has looked these past 10 games versus how well they played the first 10 games. It was very insightful, you should be able to catch a replay on youtube.
- jd250


If your summary is accurate, it's not insightful at all. It's GM nonsense.
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