So Fletcher gets a participation trophy?

- MJL

Most important thing a GM can do is hire a coach.
His trades are yet to be determined, but coaching decisions at nhl and ahl levels are a dumpster fire.

Most important thing a GM can do is hire a coach.
His trades are yet to be determined, but coaching decisions at nhl and ahl levels are a dumpster fire.
- Joe Nardone

gonna go ahead and disagree there.

For those listening carefully, Fletch acknowledged that they didn't have the puck enough and were getting out-chanced even when they were playing "better".

Too bad knowing what's wrong is a hell of a lot easier than actually being able to fix anything.
- Tomahawk

Yes, I noticed he said this, i.e. we were good the first 10 games but not perfect, he still didn't have the puck enough. I believe system's can only do so much, you need players to execute consistently and that is where I believe the Flyers are falling down here.

Yes, I noticed he said this, i.e. we were good the first 10 games but not perfect, he still didn't have the puck enough. I believe system's can only do so much, you need players to execute consistently and that is where I believe the Flyers are falling down here.
- jd250

who is responsible for getting the players?

Yes, I noticed he said this, i.e. we were good the first 10 games but not perfect, he still didn't have the puck enough. I believe system's can only do so much, you need players to execute consistently and that is where I believe the Flyers are falling down here.
- jd250

The players are being told to dump the puck in/out and break the puck out using the boards. And the GM also just got rid of two of their strongest transition and entry players over the summer.

You don't think those things have anything to do with it?

The players are being told to dump the puck in/out and break the puck out using the boards. And the GM also just got rid of two of their strongest transition and entry players over the summer.

You don't think those things have anything to do with it?
- Tomahawk

I know that is what we are watching the players do, but are you certain the players are being told to do this?

No, he stated today he has been trying to address this through the draft because these types of players are hard to come by externally. Clearly Foerster, who is now pretty much out of the season with a shoulder injury, was one attempt at this.
- jd250

I'm laughing so hard honestly. Foerster is 19. So now you're willing to give Fletcher patience to draft and develop these players. So you are no longer tired of waiting?

What is the alternative? Please state specific actions you would take instead?
- jd250

I have been stating to you what they need to do for months. I've also stated to you what they shouldn't do and shouldn't have done.

who is responsible for getting the players?
- hello it's me 2050

The GM. But its not like the GM can go to a store and buy what he needs. The hope is you have those types of players in your system and if you don't it takes time to develop them, and in the mean time you have to try to fill the holes the best way you can.

gonna go ahead and disagree there.
- BINGO!

ok, Lemchuck

I have been stating to you what they need to do for months. I've also stated to you what they shouldn't do and shouldn't have done.
- MJL

Oh good, then it should be very easy for you to summarize your plan for this year right now with specifics.

The craziest thing I’ve noticed about AV is his teams do not dominate. As in they never dictate play. They don’t drive play. Even when they were decent 2 years ago they still looked avg at best.

They simply don’t pass the eye test as a team that can’t drive play and dictate the pace.

I fire him as much for their alarming play when they were good. I just don’t see it.

They don’t need a rebuild. They need the correct structure and a bloody decent pp.

Also Hexy was a great player and person, but absolutely 0 ability to delegate here. A terrible manager of people and resources. Tough to critique his moves when he did not make any. The pain that we saw in his eyes as a player while losing simply was not there as a GM. He should have cut a check at the end of each year to each season ticket holder for asking them to invest in his nonsense. That guy would take a bullet for his team as a player and acted with 0 courage as a GM. 0
- Joe Nardone

Hextall made a lot of moves. Not sure why you say he didn't make any. Here we are in the same place as we were when they fired Hextall. 3 years later, still frustrated and still waiting. Firing Hextall was big mistake. It's never been more evident. I'll restate what I've said multiple times. Anyone thinking that Chuck Fletcher was going to wheel and deal this team into contention is kidding themselves.

For those listening carefully, Fletch acknowledged that they didn't have the puck enough and were getting out-chanced even when they were playing "better".

Too bad knowing what's wrong is a hell of a lot easier than actually being able to fix anything.
- Tomahawk

For sure but what you can't do is make it harder and harder. That's essentially what Fletcher has done.

I know that is what we are watching the players do, but are you certain the players are being told to do this?
- jd250

Yes, when you see Travis Sanhiem round the net with nothing but open ice and instead of skating it out, he passes up the boards to a covered winger. When you repeatedly see this team over and over purposely giving up the puck instead of making a D to D pass or a neutral zone counter or regroup.

The GM. But its not like the GM can go to a store and buy what he needs. The hope is you have those types of players in your system and if you don't it takes time to develop them, and in the mean time you have to try to fill the holes the best way you can.
- jd250

Hope is a good song by the descendants.

You are talking out your ass here. As Cliff said in his above post. Cant have it both ways. By the time those players get here Chuck will be long gone.

Oh good, then it should be very easy for you to summarize your plan for this year right now with specifics.
- jd250

It's a cop out for you to expect myself or anyone to play fantasy hockey. Anyone can just name players and throw that around. To your point, no it wouldn't be easy for me because no matter how many times I explain it to you or even afterwards when the facts point to me being correct, you still don't get it. I'm finding doing that an impossibility.

Yes, when you see Travis Sanhiem round the net with nothing but open ice and instead of skating it out, he passes up the boards to a covered winger. When you repeatedly see this team over and over purposely giving up the puck instead of making a D to D pass or a neutral zone counter or regroup.
- MJL

pretty sure he isnt being told to pass it to a covered winger, nice try

Hextall made a lot of moves. Not sure why you say he didn't make any. Here we are in the same place as we were when they fired Hextall. 3 years later, still frustrated and still waiting. Firing Hextall was big mistake. It's never been more evident. I'll restate what I've said multiple times. Anyone thinking that Chuck Fletcher was going to wheel and deal this team into contention is kidding themselves.
- MJL

in your opinion. Not a fact Cliff.

Saint Ronnie failed
Chuck failed

Can both be true Cliff?

The GM. But its not like the GM can go to a store and buy what he needs. The hope is you have those types of players in your system and if you don't it takes time to develop them, and in the mean time you have to try to fill the holes the best way you can.
- jd250

That's not correct. You don't fill holes the best way you can. You make the right moves and you don't make moves just to make them with a lack of patience. Which is exactly what Fletcher did.

No I will not, thank you very much! EVERYONE would have made the deal for Ellis, and I mean EVERYONE! He is a legitimate top-pairing defenseman, unlike your boy Provey who apparently needs an all-star to play with in order to play well! The aging veterans were signed because there were NO YOUNG PLAYERS WHO COULD MAKE THE TEAM, even in a bottom 6 or bottom pairing role!! And who might we blame for this?? Hmmm ... could it be .... HEXTALL??
- jd250

I would not have

I would not have
- corduroy

Neither would I. Apparently though, just like he knows for a fact that if Provorov had not reached for that puck on that goal, it would've bounced off the boards to him perfectly. He also knows what everyone would do.

Neither would I. Apparently though, just like he knows for a fact that if Provorov had not reached for that puck on that goal, it would've bounced off the boards to him perfectly. He also knows what everyone would do.
- MJL

But the reason you wouldnt is because you are a myers fanboy. Because good old ronnie found him. At least the pens were smart to have burke watch over ronnie.

It's a cop out for you to expect myself or anyone to play fantasy hockey. Anyone can just name players and throw that around. To your point, no it wouldn't be easy for me because no matter how many times I explain it to you or even afterwards when the facts point to me being correct, you still don't get it. I'm finding doing that an impossibility.
- MJL

So thank you for showing everyone, not just me, that all you know how to do is criticize, but you have NO plan or clue what-so-ever as to what to do. EXCEPT, they should have never fired Hextall!! Wow, amazing insights!

Neither would I. Apparently though, just like he knows for a fact that if Provorov had not reached for that puck on that goal, it would've bounced off the boards to him perfectly. He also knows what everyone would do.
- MJL

Its very easy, just watch the play. What happened to the puck after the puck went under the tip of Provey's blade?

Neither would I. Apparently though, just like he knows for a fact that if Provorov had not reached for that puck on that goal, it would've bounced off the boards to him perfectly. He also knows what everyone would do.
- MJL

putting words into his mouth? it is a routine play to catch a pass off the boards.