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bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Nov 30 @ 8:17 AM ET
what's embarrassing about the phantoms.......with the years of draft and develop you would think they would at least be in contention........they're not even pushing for a wild card position.
- Peter Richards


The Ratcliffes, rubstov and leberges are killing our AHL team. Its one thing for players to not make the NHL, but high picks being below average ahl players are totally killing our farm team. Even guys like bunnaman who we call up occasionally only has 2 points in 16 games. Poor drafting will do this. Hopefully in a couple years we have some better players on there.
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Nov 30 @ 8:18 AM ET
Meh
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Nov 30 @ 8:18 AM ET
The Ratcliffes, rubstov and leberges are killing our AHL team. Its one thing for players to not make the NHL, but high picks being below average ahl players are totally killing our farm team. Even guys like bunnaman who we call up occasionally only has 2 points in 16 games. Poor drafting will do this. Hopefully in a couple years we have some better players on there.
- bradster

THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Nov 30 @ 8:18 AM ET
Only in hockey is 8 wins and 12 losses .500 lol
- MBFlyerfan

BUTT POINTS PERCENTAGE
Fopa21
Joined: 05.12.2021

Nov 30 @ 8:19 AM ET
Yes exactly. I've seen countless team with far less talent that the Flyers have, even with the injuries. Play a solid structured game and use team play to compete and stay in games. This team is a mess in all facets except goaltending. There is no indication at any level of play that the coaching staff is in control.
- MJL


More of an indication the players are the problem for now tuning out their 3 & 4th coaches for the core.

Chief
Hak
AV

Gordon if you want to count him
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 30 @ 8:20 AM ET
This again?? Once and for all, Hockey is played 5 v 5 and is played for 3 twenty minute periods. This is how its been for decades and this has not changed! Ties have never left this sport! What you call something does not make it something other than it is. When the 3 periods conclude and the score is tied, the game is a TIE and each team gets 1 point. Anything after that is hockey theatre, whether its 3 on 3 or the shootout (skills competition). Its fun to watch, but its theatre! Yes a team gets an extra point for this theatre, but to me I will never concede a "real" loss when OT is not 5 on 5 and certainly not due to a skills competition.
- jd250


You go ahead and don't concede that. Wait and see how that matters in the real world. What succeeding in that theatre can do is get your team into the playoffs.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 30 @ 8:22 AM ET
Agreed

I do believe however that if this continues for a 2nd straight year that CF needs to act boldly at the deadline to continue to change the mix of players, and in the off season find a new coach. But right now, CF needs to remain patient and see if the team can get healthy and play their way out of this. They did it in 2019, they can do it in 2021.

- jd250


Another culture change? What team has ever drastically changed the mix of players on their team at the trade deadline. What needs to happen if this continues for the 2nd straight year is that there needs to be a new GM making those decisions along with a new coach. Another off season of Fletcher acting boldly should do it.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Nov 30 @ 8:23 AM ET
Agreed

I do believe however that if this continues for a 2nd straight year that CF needs to act boldly at the deadline to continue to change the mix of players, and in the off season find a new coach. But right now, CF needs to remain patient and see if the team can get healthy and play their way out of this. They did it in 2019, they can do it in 2021.

- jd250


If you want to turn it around this season, you can't be patient. Another bad week or two and its too late. Maybe if we were in a different division. Coaches shouldve been let go after the florida trip. Its been 80 games of awful, isn't that enough?
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Nov 30 @ 8:23 AM ET
Heeey that's great.
- MBFlyerfan

Its a lot words to say that "i have no critical thinking skills"
Fopa21
Joined: 05.12.2021

Nov 30 @ 8:26 AM ET
If you want to turn it around this season, you can't be patient. Another bad week or two and its too late. Maybe if we were in a different division. Coaches shouldve been let go after the florida trip. Its been 80 games of awful, isn't that enough?
- bradster


The page can’t be turned until there is a new team leader. Move G ar deadline ride out year w AV start new in off season
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 30 @ 8:27 AM ET
Its a lot words to say that "i have no critical thinking skills"
- THE BLACK HAND


The Flyers should object to the league and file for a dismissal of the "theatre"
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 30 @ 8:29 AM ET
The Ratcliffes, rubstov and leberges are killing our AHL team. Its one thing for players to not make the NHL, but high picks being below average ahl players are totally killing our farm team. Even guys like bunnaman who we call up occasionally only has 2 points in 16 games. Poor drafting will do this. Hopefully in a couple years we have some better players on there.
- bradster

I thought Hexy did a great job tho?
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Nov 30 @ 8:29 AM ET
This again?? Once and for all, Hockey is played 5 v 5 and is played for 3 twenty minute periods. This is how its been for decades and this has not changed! Ties have never left this sport! What you call something does not make it something other than it is. When the 3 periods conclude and the score is tied, the game is a TIE and each team gets 1 point. Anything after that is hockey theatre, whether its 3 on 3 or the shootout (skills competition). Its fun to watch, but its theatre! Yes a team gets an extra point for this theatre, but to me I will never concede a "real" loss when OT is not 5 on 5 and certainly not due to a skills competition.
- jd250


So OT and SO wins are not "real" wins?

Can't have it both ways
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Nov 30 @ 8:30 AM ET
Agreed

I do believe however that if this continues for a 2nd straight year that CF needs to act boldly at the deadline to continue to change the mix of players, and in the off season find a new coach. But right now, CF needs to remain patient and see if the team can get healthy and play their way out of this. They did it in 2019, they can do it in 2021.

- jd250


He acted boldly last off-season and yet here we are, again
Flyers_1488
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly , PA
Joined: 05.15.2012

Nov 30 @ 8:31 AM ET
Covid is BULL SH*T
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 30 @ 8:31 AM ET
He acted boldly last off-season and yet here we are, again
- corduroy


Made all the right moves. Changed the culture and checked all the boxes.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 30 @ 8:35 AM ET
What was the medical staffs reply to both Hayes and Ellis immediately re-injuring themselves?
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Nov 30 @ 8:35 AM ET
You go ahead and don't concede that. Wait and see how that matters in the real world. What succeeding in that theatre can do is get your team into the playoffs.
- MJL




Its ok, after reading what he said I realized the Flyers are doing much better than i thought.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 30 @ 8:36 AM ET
Its ok, after reading what he said I realized the Flyers are doing much better than i thought.
- MBFlyerfan


I called the TV repair man. Something must be wrong with my set.
Fopa21
Joined: 05.12.2021

Nov 30 @ 8:37 AM ET
Made all the right moves. Changed the culture and checked all the boxes.
- MJL


The culture can’t change if the captain stayed.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 30 @ 8:39 AM ET
More of an indication the players are the problem for now tuning out their 3 & 4th coaches for the core.

Chief
Hak
AV

Gordon if you want to count him

- Fopa21


IMO the Flyers need to find better coaching candidates. Chief and Hak were total noobs. AV is a recycled dapper dinosaur.

Scott Gordon had the team going on the right track before they nixed his interim gig, tho.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 30 @ 8:40 AM ET
IMO the Flyers need to find better coaching candidates. Chief and Hak were total noobs. AV is a recycled dapper dinosaur.

Scott Gordon had the team going on the right track before they nixed his interim gig, tho.

- Tomahawk


Even without a coaching change, what I don't like is that they don't do a good job grooming coaching talent. I'm sorry but I just don't see Lapariere as a future NHL coach. Yeo and Therrien are retreads.
Fopa21
Joined: 05.12.2021

Nov 30 @ 8:41 AM ET
IMO the Flyers need to find better coaching candidates. Chief and Hak were total noobs. AV is a recycled dapper dinosaur.

Scott Gordon had the team going on the right track before they nixed his interim gig, tho.

- Tomahawk


Chief turned around a struggling team with a rookie goalie & won a cup. Also, has his team playing pretty well so far this year
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Nov 30 @ 8:41 AM ET
So basically the Flyers organization is in the bottom 5 of both the NHL and AHL with a clown at the helm in the AHL. It is an absolute travesty what this once proud organization has become. I'm glad the game was postponed tonight cause that means I don't have to be aggravated again until tomorrow night when the Rags school this pack of sad sacks(6-1 Rags was my early prediction).
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Nov 30 @ 8:42 AM ET
Even without a coaching change, what I don't like is that they don't do a good job grooming coaching talent. I'm sorry but I just don't see Lapariere as a future NHL coach. Yeo and Therrien are retreads.
- MJL


more concerned with developing players before we worry about developing coaches.
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