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Joe Nardone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Medicine Hat
Joined: 07.05.2018

Dec 6 @ 10:34 AM ET
Neither was Berube … until he won a cup.
- landros 2


Not saying they should hire 22, but hey is not a good coaching candidate. Great track record as an assistant and that PHX team was and is the tilapia that of the NHL.

My next hire is whichever coach can get the very best out of every player ever single night and also someone who will adjust his system in accordance to the talent in front of him.

Kinda sounds like Torts to me, but if it takes waiting until the off-season to find that guy then so be it. Also can our pp coach also go please..
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Dec 6 @ 10:35 AM ET
Laperriere or Chris Stewart.
- PLindbergh31

Jody Shelly is next in line
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 6 @ 10:36 AM ET
That is on him. He's the General Manager. I would rather they fired him than Vigneaault.
- PLindbergh31


I don't disagree
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Dec 6 @ 10:36 AM ET
Don’t worry guys we’re still only 2 years from being 2 years away
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Dec 6 @ 10:38 AM ET
Oh well at least the Phillies still have a chance
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 6 @ 10:39 AM ET
but if it takes waiting until the off-season to find that guy then so be it.
- Joe Nardone


Agree. I don't really care who takes over for the duration of this season as long as it's with an interim tag so a thorough search can be done for a permanent (lol) hire.

Also can our pp coach also go please..


Wasn't that Therien?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 6 @ 10:39 AM ET
The fact that they are playing as individuals was brutally obvious last night. That's why I hate to say it, but this team appears as if they aren't being coached at all. Although I suppose when everyone is in a funk at the same time it can give that appearance as well. I wonder if the Avs will spot the Flyers a 5 spot tonight?
- Phillywhiteout


That's the key sentence. Everyone is in a funk at the same time! Again, same as last year. It doesn't point toward leadership. It points to coaching.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Dec 6 @ 10:40 AM ET
Oh well at least the Phillies still have a chance
- 2Real


Holy God. So Mike Yeo is the guy? Therrien and AV gone?
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Dec 6 @ 10:41 AM ET
Yeo is the 6th coach in the last 7 years.

Imagine being one of the people who defend this franchise at every turn?

- PLindbergh31


That's insane. Also, who are Yeo's assistants now? We're gonna have Jim Mccrossin coaching the PP..
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 6 @ 10:42 AM ET
That's the key sentence. Everyone is in a funk at the same time! Again, same as last year. It doesn't point toward leadership. It points to coaching.
- MJL


It's happened so often with the last three/four coaches that I can't blame it all on coaching. AV is a good coach and didn't suddenly become inept. Fletcher admitted last week that the team doesn't have the right mix of players. That's his job. Firing AV today doesn't fix that.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Dec 6 @ 10:42 AM ET
Not saying they should hire 22, but hey is not a good coaching candidate. Great track record as an assistant and that PHX team was and is the tilapia that of the NHL.

My next hire is whichever coach can get the very best out of every player ever single night and also someone who will adjust his system in accordance to the talent in front of him.

Kinda sounds like Torts to me, but if it takes waiting until the off-season to find that guy then so be it. Also can our pp coach also go please..

- Joe Nardone



Im not sure Torts would take this job with the state of the player personnel.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 6 @ 10:42 AM ET
So I guess the GM didn't get the miracle response from his press conference he was hoping for? His press conference should've been for talking about why he fired AV.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 6 @ 10:42 AM ET
That's insane. Also, who are Yeo's assistants now? We're gonna have Jim Mccrossin coaching the PP..
- Hextall271


Assistants haven't been announced. I'd go with Gritty on the PK, Chris Stewart PP
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Dec 6 @ 10:43 AM ET
So I guess the GM didn't get the miracle response from his press conference he was hoping for? His press conference should've been for talking about why he fired AV.
- MJL



He hadn't reached Scott's "bias for action" yet.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Dec 6 @ 10:43 AM ET
Holy God. So Mike Yeo is the guy? Therrien and AV gone?
- Hextall271

Yes I don’t think AV was the entire problem but we’ll find it in a few months. Maybe chuckie said to him we’re tanking and he didn’t want any part of it
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Dec 6 @ 10:44 AM ET
Travis has some good wheels too. We just don't play fast. Is that effort? Occassionally we play with speed but not nearly as often as we need.

I miss jakes entrances into the zone, then his pass to the other team, and lazy backcheck

- bradster



good times
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 6 @ 10:45 AM ET
It's happened so often with the last three/four coaches that I can't blame it all on coaching. AV is a good coach and didn't suddenly become inept. Fletcher admitted last week that the team doesn't have the right mix of players. That's his job. Firing AV today doesn't fix that.
- Scoob


The teams under Hakstol simply were devoid of overall talent. They basically had one line, one defense pairing and a good checking center. Hakstol got them into the playoffs with that. Albeit carried by Giroux.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Dec 6 @ 10:45 AM ET
Assistants haven't been announced. I'd go with Gritty on the PK, Chris Stewart PP
- PLindbergh31

I hear Doug Pederson is available
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 6 @ 10:46 AM ET
Who knows, but doing this poop over and over with no changes aint working.

Just sayin, Jake would be 2nd in points on this team. He has 18 assists!

- arichardson22


Lament his departure all you want but do you think he'd have anywhere near that many were he still in Philly?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Dec 6 @ 10:47 AM ET
That's insane. Also, who are Yeo's assistants now? We're gonna have Jim Mccrossin coaching the PP..
- Hextall271

Mccrossin is long over due for being fired
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Dec 6 @ 10:48 AM ET
That is on him. He's the General Manager. I would rather they fired him than Vigneaault.
- PLindbergh31


I bet av feels silly working last Monday when the team had a day off
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Dec 6 @ 10:48 AM ET
He hadn't reached Scott's "bias for action" yet.
- hockeylover

I would not doubt that if up to Fletcher he would have given AV more time, but that he was forced to act sooner by Scott. The fact that Lebrun reports "I'm told the Flyers haven't spoken to any other coaching candidates at this point" supports this. I would also imagine that Fletcher is now on notice also.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 6 @ 10:48 AM ET
The teams under Hakstol simply were devoid of overall talent. They basically had one line, one defense pairing and a good checking center. Hakstol got them into the playoffs with that. Albeit carried by Giroux.
- MJL



It's the GM's job to get the coach and player mixes in sync so it works. That hasn't happened in quite a while now.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Dec 6 @ 10:50 AM ET
It's the GM's job to get the coach and player mixes in sync so it works. That hasn't happened in quite a while now.
- Scoob

Giroux couldn’t work with
Laviolette
Berube
Hakstol
AV

Think about that
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Dec 6 @ 10:50 AM ET
I hear Doug Pederson is available
- 2Real


and Scott Gordon
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