The appropriate description is a moron wrapped around an idiot. One who sits at the bottom of his/hers parents basement stairs. Fed by a sling shot. One who is master of its peanut butter castle.
- Nfdbulldawg

This is probably accurate except I envision this old, sweltering, puss ridden mess sitting on the couch whenever this guy drops his stupidity anywhere. His parents probably died long ago which is a good thing we need that gene pool to stop with him.

anyone know how much cap space (approx) the Isles will have once Chara, Greene and Parise are gone?

anyone know how much cap space (approx) the Isles will have once Chara, Greene and Parise are gone?
- LItransplant44

no..not really.. b/c 1. u don't know what the cap is b/c it may go higher or stay the same for one more year. if it is during the season their cap room keeps going up b/c they have not used what room they have and whoever you may or may not trade for has a cap number that keeps coming down during the season. they also could waive a few guys on the team to save some cap space if needed too.

How Trotz continues to throw out Bailey on line 1 makes very little sense. He has no stats at ALL playing with Barzal. He produces nothing.
- Mancalledsting

there is Zero accountability when it comes to Bailey.

[quote=Nfdbulldawg]When you say he allowed Eberle to get taken you make it sound like we lost a snipper. Ebbs score over 20 goals once in five season with the Isles. He was an inconsistent goal scorer that struggled. Would have rather seen Bailey go. Cannot fault Lou for this.

I will address Eberle first... after watching a lot of the playoff games over that have been shown on MSG and NHL network all summer I noticed something.. eberle is a much better player than we gave him credit. He was on a line without Lee and still was able to produce and score some very big goals. As you pointed out he is basically a 20-25 goal scorer and streaky. That was the beauty of the Islanders the past 3 years. They had a bunch of 20+ goal guys up and down the lineup. we don't have that anymore... when you just have to shut one or 2 lines down you become easier to play. With no Brock, no Eberle, No offense at all from the Defense without Leddy/Toews, and getting ZERO from Palmieri, Parise, Bailey, Bellows, etc. we literally can't score at all .... and Eberle has 12 goals so far on Seattle. That is more than anyone on this team by a lot.

Palmieri has a better history then Ebbs and is more consist. Cannot fault Lou for this.

I don't agree with this statement.. I'll just leave it there.. Everle has over 250k goals in 800 games another 300+ assists. that is a very consistent and very good producer. He certainly isn't a shut down defensive player but he is better than Bailey and a lot of others that don't produce.. (Martin, Palmieri, etc.)

You’re a moron but I feel like enough people have told you that on hockeybuzz and every other facet of your life that you’re aware. None the less I figured I would reinforce it for you.
- Cptmjl

lol .. harsh but fair.

Toews, I believe is Lou's biggest mistake. This was the guy to replace Leddy and provide the Isles with a solid top four.

Leddy, I was not disappointed in seeing him go. I felt Lou would replace him. Where Lou has failed is in not replacing Toews and Leddy. You can fault Lou for this.

I 100% agree with these statements. I wanted so many d-men that got moved this summer... instead we got a 47 year old 6'9" traffic cone. truly absurd that Lou allowed this to happen.

[quote=Nfdbulldawg]When you say he allowed Eberle to get taken you make it sound like we lost a snipper. Ebbs score over 20 goals once in five season with the Isles. He was an inconsistent goal scorer that struggled. Would have rather seen Bailey go. Cannot fault Lou for this.

I will address Eberle first... after watching a lot of the playoff games over that have been shown on MSG and NHL network all summer I noticed something.. eberle is a much better player than we gave him credit. He was on a line without Lee and still was able to produce and score some very big goals. As you pointed out he is basically a 20-25 goal scorer and streaky. That was the beauty of the Islanders the past 3 years. They had a bunch of 20+ goal guys up and down the lineup. we don't have that anymore... when you just have to shut one or 2 lines down you become easier to play. With no Brock, no Eberle, No offense at all from the Defense without Leddy/Toews, and getting ZERO from Palmieri, Parise, Bailey, Bellows, etc. we literally can't score at all .... and Eberle has 12 goals so far on Seattle. That is more than anyone on this team by a lot.
- niteislander

From what I've watched, Seattle plays a more open, offense-driven game. The Isles, obviously, are a defense-minded team. Nobody on the Isles are scoring. No one!. If you were Seattle who would you have taken, Bailey or Ebbs? Right, Ebbs. Unless you're saying that Lou should have worked some kind of deal for Seattle to take Bailey, then it really isn't on Lou. You, me and everyone else on here knows and says the same thing, this team is not scoring. How to turn it around? I don't know, but I'm assuming that Lou and Barry are trying to figure that out. We'll see what happens.

Toews, I believe is Lou's biggest mistake. This was the guy to replace Leddy and provide the Isles with a solid top four.

Leddy, I was not disappointed in seeing him go. I felt Lou would replace him. Where Lou has failed is in not replacing Toews and Leddy. You can fault Lou for this.

I 100% agree with these statements. I wanted so many d-men that got moved this summer... instead we got a 47 year old 6'9" traffic cone. truly absurd that Lou allowed this to happen.
- niteislander

I'll definitely agree that the team is missing Toews and/or Leddy. Perhaps he felt that Dobson was ready to take the next step. Maybe they felt that Aho was going to start stepping up. I'm sure they thought Chara would be better than he has been. I'd be willing to bet a pretty significant amount of money that Lou isn't just sitting in his office, smoking a cigar and thinking his job is done and everything is fine. We had that with Snow, but Lou is a different cat.

Leddy is alright

lol .. harsh but fair.
- niteislander

Intentionally brutal. Guy is a Neanderthal.

From what I've watched, Seattle plays a more open, offense-driven game. The Isles, obviously, are a defense-minded team. Nobody on the Isles are scoring. No one!. If you were Seattle who would you have taken, Bailey or Ebbs? Right, Ebbs. Unless you're saying that Lou should have worked some kind of deal for Seattle to take Bailey, then it really isn't on Lou. You, me and everyone else on here knows and says the same thing, this team is not scoring. How to turn it around? I don't know, but I'm assuming that Lou and Barry are trying to figure that out. We'll see what happens.
- Isleshockeyman

Eberle is also sporting an absurd career high shooting percentage. It’s extremely unlikely he continues to score at such a torrid pace, and it’s equally unlikely that he could have replicated such a performance for the Islanders this season.

That said, I wish Seattle had taken Bailey.

From what I've watched, Seattle plays a more open, offense-driven game. The Isles, obviously, are a defense-minded team. Nobody on the Isles are scoring. No one!. If you were Seattle who would you have taken, Bailey or Ebbs? Right, Ebbs. Unless you're saying that Lou should have worked some kind of deal for Seattle to take Bailey, then it really isn't on Lou. You, me and everyone else on here knows and says the same thing, this team is not scoring. How to turn it around? I don't know, but I'm assuming that Lou and Barry are trying to figure that out. We'll see what happens.
- Isleshockeyman

Bottom line this is typical Monday morning quarterbacking by fans. Eberle was constantly female doged about on this thread for years. Wasn't consistent, doesn't play D, and isn't physical at all. He gets taken by Seattle and scores at a 2.8 shooting % ( which is ridiculous and won't keep it up ) and he is the second coming of OV and how the (frank) could Lou have let him go. The only thing funnier would have been Seattle taking Bailey and him scoring and the Islander Fans female doging Lou let him go. Which you know they would have.

Eberle is also sporting an absurd career high shooting percentage. It’s extremely unlikely he continues to score at such a torrid pace, and it’s equally unlikely that he could have replicated such a performance for the Islanders this season.

That said, I wish Seattle had taken Bailey.
- Wildschwein

Just saw this after my post and said the same thing. I too wish they would have taken Bailey but they didn't. We just need to get over it.

Eberle is also sporting an absurd career high shooting percentage. It’s extremely unlikely he continues to score at such a torrid pace, and it’s equally unlikely that he could have replicated such a performance for the Islanders this season.

That said, I wish Seattle had taken Bailey.
- Wildschwein

Though it is likely he would be out performing Palmieri right now

Joking but god damn Palmieri is crapping the bed big time. With that said eberle’s time had come and gone as far as I’m concerned. It’s just that so far he wasn’t adequately replaced. I say this knowing/hoping Palmieri turns it around.

Bottom line this is typical Monday morning quarterbacking by fans. Eberle was constantly female doged about on this thread for years. Wasn't consistent, doesn't play D, and isn't physical at all. He gets taken by Seattle and scores at a 2.8 shooting % ( which is ridiculous and won't keep it up ) and he is the second coming of OV and how the (frank) could Lou have let him go. The only thing funnier would have been Seattle taking Bailey and him scoring and the Islander Fans female doging Lou let him go. Which you know they would have.
- nyisles7

I know. It's the same b!tching and moaning that always happens here. The team has hit a slump, a big slump, for the first time in 3 years and a lot of peoples heads are on fire. Especially since we have no idea why things were done the way they were done. Seattle took Ebbs. Nobody in here was complaining about it at the time. As a matter of fact, If I'm not mistaken, there were a bunch saying good riddance because Palms was going to score more than him anyway. Leddy was traded away to create cap space. At least that's what it appeared to be. I'm guessing that Lou thought Parise and Chara would be better than they have been. I'm pretty sure he thought the entire team would be better than they have been.
My point is, not a single one of us know why Lou made the moves that he did. How many deals did he try to make that fell through? How many young players did he keep here rejecting deals requesting younger players? Lou is trying to keep the team within the boundaries of the cap. SO he made moves that haven't panned out. It's not the first time that's ever happened to a GM. And I don't want to hear about how he knew Chara and Greene were in their 60's. We all know that and I've already said my piece about it. I'm sticking with Lou & Barry and see where it goes.

Eberle is also sporting an absurd career high shooting percentage. It’s extremely unlikely he continues to score at such a torrid pace, and it’s equally unlikely that he could have replicated such a performance for the Islanders this season.

That said, I wish Seattle had taken Bailey.
- Wildschwein

We all do.
Absolutely no one on this team is scoring this year. So I would agree that Eberle wouldn't be on the scoring tear he's on now if he hadn't been selected. And there would be a bunch of people complaining about how he isn't scoring and wishing Seattle would have taken him instead of Bailey. It's just laughable.

I know. It's the same b!tching and moaning that always happens here. The team has hit a slump, a big slump, for the first time in 3 years and a lot of peoples heads are on fire. Especially since we have no idea why things were done the way they were done. Seattle took Ebbs. Nobody in here was complaining about it at the time. As a matter of fact, If I'm not mistaken, there were a bunch saying good riddance because Palms was going to score more than him anyway. Leddy was traded away to create cap space. At least that's what it appeared to be. I'm guessing that Lou thought Parise and Chara would be better than they have been. I'm pretty sure he thought the entire team would be better than they have been.
My point is, not a single one of us know why Lou made the moves that he did. How many deals did he try to make that fell through? How many young players did he keep here rejecting deals requesting younger players? Lou is trying to keep the team within the boundaries of the cap. SO he made moves that haven't panned out. It's not the first time that's ever happened to a GM. And I don't want to hear about how he knew Chara and Greene were in their 60's. We all know that and I've already said my piece about it. I'm sticking with Lou & Barry and see where it goes.
- Isleshockeyman

Well said, and I'll stick with Lou and Barry as well.

I know. It's the same b!tching and moaning that always happens here. The team has hit a slump, a big slump, for the first time in 3 years and a lot of peoples heads are on fire. Especially since we have no idea why things were done the way they were done. Seattle took Ebbs. Nobody in here was complaining about it at the time. As a matter of fact, If I'm not mistaken, there were a bunch saying good riddance because Palms was going to score more than him anyway. Leddy was traded away to create cap space. At least that's what it appeared to be. I'm guessing that Lou thought Parise and Chara would be better than they have been. I'm pretty sure he thought the entire team would be better than they have been.
My point is, not a single one of us know why Lou made the moves that he did. How many deals did he try to make that fell through? How many young players did he keep here rejecting deals requesting younger players? Lou is trying to keep the team within the boundaries of the cap. SO he made moves that haven't panned out. It's not the first time that's ever happened to a GM. And I don't want to hear about how he knew Chara and Greene were in their 60's. We all know that and I've already said my piece about it. I'm sticking with Lou & Barry and see where it goes.
- Isleshockeyman

I don’t know I don’t remember anyone complaining about Eberle being picked or Leddy being traded in here? Twitter yeah that’s a different story but pretty much everyone in here has echoed what you’re saying

I don’t know I don’t remember anyone complaining about Eberle being picked or Leddy being traded in here? Twitter yeah that’s a different story but pretty much everyone in here has echoed what you’re saying
- Cptmjl

No one was complaining. That was my point. Now there are guys complaining because Eberle is on Seattle and scoring. There just seems to be people that want to, and will, complain about anything and everything. Oh well.

No one was complaining. That was my point. Now there are guys complaining because Eberle is on Seattle and scoring. There just seems to be people that want to, and will, complain about anything and everything. Oh well.
- Isleshockeyman

Just was told that there is a petition going around to fire trotz. I don’t see this ever happening but it’s out there

No one was complaining. That was my point. Now there are guys complaining because Eberle is on Seattle and scoring. There just seems to be people that want to, and will, complain about anything and everything. Oh well.
- Isleshockeyman

My point was that I thought you were saying people were complaining in here about it now in hindsight. Whatever about Eberle everyone was happy about signing Palmieri to replace him. Whether it turns out to be the right choice who knows but I certainly haven’t given up on him. We have a bunch of underperforming players some more then others hopefully they snap out of it and start producing.

Just was told that there is a petition going around to fire trotz. I don’t see this ever happening but it’s out there
- kasperrko

It’s “out there” alright. Completely out there.