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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 6 @ 12:27 PM ET
Still need to fire Chuck
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Dec 6 @ 12:28 PM ET
Still need to fire Chuck
- BiggE



That has to be next. Perhaps in the offseason.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Dec 6 @ 12:28 PM ET
Give us a break with Rangers rebuild, please. The league gifted them #2 and then #1 picks in successive years because it wants a winning team in NYC. That rebuild is not representative of what is possible for teams in secondary markets like Philly.
- iamscore2day


How is Philly a secondary market lol
Big_E_88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilmington, DE
Joined: 01.17.2014

Dec 6 @ 12:30 PM ET
Might as well goon it up for the rest of the season. At least that would be somewhat entertaining, and keep some people in the seats. Scott would love that. Imagine the whole "The Bullies Are Back" marketing angle.

Never mind, this roster is a bunch of limp richards, so even that idea probably wouldn't work. Risto, MacEwen... hell, just tape up Morin's knees and slide him out there for a few bouts. Isn't Cote still milling about? Get him out there, it was always fun watching him eat knuckles.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Dec 6 @ 12:32 PM ET
Might as well goon it up for the rest of the season. At least that would be somewhat entertaining, and keep some people in the seats. Scott would love that. Imagine the whole "The Bullies Are Back" marketing angle.

Never mind, this roster is a bunch of limp richards, so even that idea probably wouldn't work. Risto, MacEwen... hell, just tape up Morin's knees and slide him out there for a few bouts. Isn't Cote still milling about? Get him out there, it was always fun watching him eat knuckles.

- Big_E_88


Lol

jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Dec 6 @ 12:34 PM ET
Actually it would save the team 2.666 next season and cost them 1.333 in the season after that.
- MBFlyerfan

I'm not following. At seasons end, JVR, who is older than 26 years old, could be bought out at 2/3 the remaining contract value ($7) spread out over twice the remaining contract years (2). Thus the Flyers would pay JVR $4.6M over 2 years, each year paying JVR $2.3M. Therefore next season, JVR's cap hit $2.3M, right?
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Dec 6 @ 12:34 PM ET
Yes I agree, sell off as much as you can this season, but you still need to fill out the roster next season and you will need cap space to do so and JVR is a perfect buyout candidate in the off season.
- jd250

Fill out the roster next season...what are we filling out, this team is in shambles . It isn’t going to be fixed in the off season
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Dec 6 @ 12:34 PM ET
So what’s the puke GM spewing out now?
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Dec 6 @ 12:35 PM ET
Give us a break with Rangers rebuild, please. The league gifted them #2 and then #1 picks in successive years because it wants a winning team in NYC. That rebuild is not representative of what is possible for teams in secondary markets like Philly.
- iamscore2day

Philly is a secondary market??
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Dec 6 @ 12:37 PM ET
Ellis is not a bad contract? Atkinson is not a bad contract? What is it going to cost them to move JVR?
- MJL


No, no, and I have no idea. Even if we are stuck with JVR, it's not the end of the world. I personally think he can be moved with patience.

I can all but guarantee you Ellis isn't here long term (he doesn't want to be here). He will be moved at some point. Despite what you or many others may believe, plenty of other teams still believe in his talent and would take him in the right deal. Again, we just have to be patient.

The Flyers are in a terrible cap situation.

People keep forgetting that Farabee's contract jumps from 925,000 to 5,000,000 next season. That is a major increase.

Couturiers contract jumps from 4,300,000 to 7,750,000 next season. Thats a major jump.

- Captain_Ahab


I haven't forgotten any of that. Doesn't change the fact the Flyers cap situation isn't bad.

MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Dec 6 @ 12:38 PM ET
I'm not following. At seasons end, JVR, who is older than 26 years old, could be bought out at 2/3 the remaining contract value ($7) spread out over twice the remaining contract years (2). Thus the Flyers would pay JVR $4.6M over 2 years, each year paying JVR $2.3M. Therefore next season, JVR's cap hit $2.3M, right?
- jd250



https://www.capfriendly.c...ames-van-riemsdyk#results

iamscore2day
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 03.23.2021

Dec 6 @ 12:39 PM ET
How is Philly a secondary market lol
- Just5

Secondary to NYC: less than 50% of viewership of NYC, one franchise vs. 3, consistent underperforming outcomes.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 6 @ 12:40 PM ET
So what’s the puke GM spewing out now?
- Just5


Two Fletchy pressers in a week. He's got things running like a finely tuned Swiss watch.
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Dec 6 @ 12:41 PM ET
Secondary to NYC: less than 50% of viewership of NYC, one franchise vs. 3, consistent underperforming outcomes.
- iamscore2day


Philadelphia is the 4th largest media market behind NYC, LA, and Chicago. Take the L and move on.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Dec 6 @ 12:42 PM ET
So what’s the puke GM spewing out now?
- Just5



If he keep’s Yeo in as coach and they show no improvement then you’ll get your wish…Fletch had better help find some answers or he won’t be around long….just promoting a guy that was in charge of the D (which Fletcher even just said needed to have better structure) doesn’t scream….”I have an answer”
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Dec 6 @ 12:44 PM ET
Hilarious that Fletcher is holding a press conference with Yeo. Two slugs who basically ran the Wild into the ground.
- PLindbergh31

they just want to throw some yo-yos around before they're fired
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Dec 6 @ 12:44 PM ET
Philly is a secondary market??
- jd250

i think the last decade+ has solidified that
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 6 @ 12:44 PM ET
Was it announced who the assistant coaches will be tonight?
Big_E_88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilmington, DE
Joined: 01.17.2014

Dec 6 @ 12:46 PM ET
Was it announced who the assistant coaches will be tonight?
- PLindbergh31


A cardboard cutout of Kate Smith & Gritty
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Dec 6 @ 12:46 PM ET
Was it announced who the assistant coaches will be tonight?
- PLindbergh31
Riley Cote and Todd Fedoruk

hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Dec 6 @ 12:47 PM ET
Was it announced who the assistant coaches will be tonight?
- PLindbergh31

Sign guy and dancing seany.

I was pulling for Sigorney from Xfinity Live honestly.
iamscore2day
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 03.23.2021

Dec 6 @ 12:51 PM ET
Philadelphia is the 4th largest media market behind NYC, LA, and Chicago. Take the L and move on.
- StepfordSam

Not the point of my post, Einstein. The league ain't gonna give Philly the same treatment the Rangers got. That rebuild is not a reasonable expectation for anyone to have.
iamscore2day
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 03.23.2021

Dec 6 @ 12:52 PM ET
A cardboard cutout of Kate Smith & Gritty
- Big_E_88


I think it will be the Kate Smith hologram.
iamscore2day
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 03.23.2021

Dec 6 @ 12:53 PM ET
i think the last decade+ has solidified that
- 2Real


Careful: reality like this will elicit negative feedback from some on this board.
AngryJoe
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.13.2021

Dec 6 @ 12:53 PM ET
Fire Dave Scott
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