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ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Dec 7 @ 1:00 PM ET
I would have said Coots last year but he looks terrible right now. I am guessing he is playing hurt. I still think he is the right guy because he will hold players accountable. The other guy is Laughton. He reminds me of that guy from Band of Bros who took over things at the end. Seems like he can be a scary individual and he always shows up to play.
- iamscore2day

Coots would be the next captain , pretty straight forward in my eyes
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 7 @ 1:00 PM ET
This team has its faults but you don’t score 5 goals against the Aves if you aren’t competing.
- SuperSchennBros


You do if they're starting a rookie in his first NHL game.
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Dec 7 @ 1:00 PM ET
I would have said Coots last year but he looks terrible right now. I am guessing he is playing hurt. I still think he is the right guy because he will hold players accountable. The other guy is Laughton. He reminds me of that guy from Band of Bros who took over things at the end. Seems like he can be a scary individual and he always shows up to play.
- iamscore2day


Interesting. I can see coots provie or whatnot. Also wouldn’t be surprised if it was Hayes.

But in moving forward that’s why I chose Farabee. Puts someone a little younger in the leadership role. But in another year or two his game will improve. He just has the fire and maturity imo. And will work with the vets to have buy in from all. Bridge gaps.

And I don’t think Scott scares anyone. No
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Dec 7 @ 1:01 PM ET
It's really hard to reconcile the night and day difference between preseason Yands and regular season Yands.

Preseason Yands looked like a (frank)ing All-Star.

- Tomahawk



Just shows the difference between the level of play in preseason and the regular season. Which is why we should also slow our roll on evaluating young players based on their preseason play...and why they need to look like they are tearing it up instead of just holding their own.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Dec 7 @ 1:01 PM ET
You stop it with your positivity right now. There's no place for it as everyone knows this is the worst franchise in the history of sport. haha
- Hextall271




Confidence is such a funny thing. It has a tangible effect when there. It can’t be given, taught, learned or obtained by training. If present, it was at some point self-discovered then realized. However, sometimes people need someone to look them in the eyes and tell ‘em that it is in them. Hopefully, they look back, look deep and see it too.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Dec 7 @ 1:12 PM ET
When did they actually show the ability to be in the playoff race? No, they really haven't. Not when you dig deeper and look at what actually happened. The playoffs are pretty much out of reach. They could go on a big run and make it but there aren't any signs of that.
- MJL


I think we have a difference of opinion here because you believe that the first 11 games had unsustainable scoring totals due to being lucky basically. I think the reverse is true that the second set of 11 games had unsustainable lack of scoring due to slumping. I think we both agree that the team defense had not ever been where it needs to be yet, but that is the piece that needs more time. The scoring and goaltending need to hang on until they can get healthy and get their details consistent.
hfc355
Joined: 06.17.2013

Dec 7 @ 1:14 PM ET
I would have said Coots last year but he looks terrible right now. I am guessing he is playing hurt. I still think he is the right guy because he will hold players accountable. The other guy is Laughton. He reminds me of that guy from Band of Bros who took over things at the end. Seems like he can be a scary individual and he always shows up to play.
- iamscore2day

I would not name a captain . Let's see how the off season goes and develops. There is no rush.
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Dec 7 @ 1:15 PM ET
I think we have a difference of opinion here because you believe that the first 11 games had unsustainable scoring totals due to being lucky basically. I think the reverse is true that the second set of 11 games had unsustainable lack of scoring due to slumping. I think we both agree that the team defense had not ever been where it needs to be yet, but that is the piece that needs more time. The scoring and goaltending need to hang on until they can get healthy and get their details consistent.
- NC Flyers Fan


Flagged by accident. Both are correct. The high shooting percentage is hard to sustain. Not playing is easier to sustain but then there’s a whole pride thing. At this level you would hope they all care I guess. But yes. Pessimism vs optimism. 99 percent of the arguments here you can say the reverse to any post.
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Dec 7 @ 1:17 PM ET
This is part of the overall problem. Fire coach. Respond with something positive (5 goals and not rolling over at 4-1). Now ignore the 7 goals against. The poor play. The fact that it was a 4th string goalie on a horrible defensive Colorado team. And most importantly THE FLYERS LOST THE GAME. But, the team and some fans will continue to see the positives and ignore the real problems, which is this team is just not a top notch team from ownership to players. That means it may never be addressed and fixed. Sad but true. Maybe not quite the NY Jets of the hockey world but certainly not the “we’re always a threat” of the 70’s, 80’s and parts of the 90’s and 00’s. Remember when no one wanted to play against the Flyers in Philly? Most fans under 30 don’t.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Dec 7 @ 1:18 PM ET
I would not name a captain . Let's see how the off season goes and develops. There is no rush.
- hfc355

i wouldn't name laughton he's too streaky of a player
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 7 @ 1:27 PM ET
This is part of the overall problem. Fire coach. Respond with something positive (5 goals and not rolling over at 4-1). Now ignore the 7 goals against. The poor play. The fact that it was a 4th string goalie on a horrible defensive Colorado team. And most importantly THE FLYERS LOST THE GAME. But, the team and some fans will continue to see the positives and ignore the real problems, which is this team is just not a top notch team from ownership to players. That means it may never be addressed and fixed. Sad but true. Maybe not quite the NY Jets of the hockey world but certainly not the “we’re always a threat” of the 70’s, 80’s and parts of the 90’s and 00’s. Remember when no one wanted to play against the Flyers in Philly? Most fans under 30 don’t.
- mikeyo27


Good post. There was a thing called the Philly flu back in the 70's and 80's. Teams did not want to come into the spectrum and play the Flyers. It was a tough night at the office. The 1979-1980 team had a 35 game unbeaten streak, which even with ties is unfathomable. Although they haven't won a Cup in my lifetime, they almost always fielded a competitive hard nosed hockey club. Those days are long gone.

This team can't win a game. It's both pathetic and sad at the same time.
mr4tno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.29.2017

Dec 7 @ 1:28 PM ET
Because Yandle is fixable -- Waive; JVR only has 1.5 yrs left
We are stuck with 9 & 14 and 14'w new contract has not even kicked in. It is going to be a fun decade
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Dec 7 @ 1:30 PM ET
They're off today, does that mean the players have the complete day off, or are they just off the ice?
Bendecko
Location: Cave Putorium
Joined: 02.29.2020

Dec 7 @ 1:31 PM ET
When was the last time an NHL team gave up 7 goals in consecutive games under 2 different head coaches?
- cdearth23

Last night and the night before that. DUH! (EDIT: LEIGHT)
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Dec 7 @ 1:43 PM ET
They're off today, does that mean the players have the complete day off, or are they just off the ice?
- Dkos

I would think the CBA would give them a full day off after a back to back but yeo probably needs a good practice day to get the team in sync with his plans
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 7 @ 1:44 PM ET
I think we have a difference of opinion here because you believe that the first 11 games had unsustainable scoring totals due to being lucky basically. I think the reverse is true that the second set of 11 games had unsustainable lack of scoring due to slumping. I think we both agree that the team defense had not ever been where it needs to be yet, but that is the piece that needs more time. The scoring and goaltending need to hang on until they can get healthy and get their details consistent.
- NC Flyers Fan


All you have to do is look at the data and see what is correct. Myself and Tomahawk were actually predicting it to happen. Certainly not to the extent of a 9 game losing streak but there was no doubt that they were not a good team even when they had a decent record. As they were bleeding scoring chances and not having the puck enough. What has happened in the last 11 is directly because of those issues and the subsequent confidence issues. I have no doubt that they will rebound and play better hockey but until they fix the issues mentioned, they won't be a good team.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 7 @ 1:49 PM ET
Not sure what to make of this. Whitney is well connected and has a lot of sources.

Go Sens Go I guess.


Ryan Whitney
@ryanwhitney6
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1h
If they lose this game apparently Trotz is gone and probably behind the Flyers by Friday.
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Dec 7 @ 1:55 PM ET
Lame for Shane.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Dec 7 @ 1:56 PM ET
Not sure what to make of this. Whitney is well connected and has a lot of sources.

Go Sens Go I guess.


Ryan Whitney
@ryanwhitney6
·
1h
If they lose this game apparently Trotz is gone and probably behind the Flyers by Friday.

- PLindbergh31


Sounds too good to be true, and that it coming from me. Impervious to pessimism. I’ll cross my fingers anyway.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Dec 7 @ 2:02 PM ET
When did they actually show the ability to be in the playoff race? No, they really haven't. Not when you dig deeper and look at what actually happened. The playoffs are pretty much out of reach. They could go on a big run and make it but there aren't any signs of that.
- MJL


They were 8-4-2 before their 9 game losing streak. How wasnt that an ability to be in the playoff race?
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Dec 7 @ 2:03 PM ET
Not sure what to make of this. Whitney is well connected and has a lot of sources.

Go Sens Go I guess.


Ryan Whitney
@ryanwhitney6
·
1h
If they lose this game apparently Trotz is gone and probably behind the Flyers by Friday.

- PLindbergh31



Jesus I would drive to Long Island to pick him up myself!
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 7 @ 2:05 PM ET
Flyers claimed defensemen Kevin Connauton off waivers. He's better than Seeler at least.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Dec 7 @ 2:06 PM ET
It's really hard to reconcile the night and day difference between preseason Yands and regular season Yands.

Preseason Yands looked like a (frank)ing All-Star.

- Tomahawk


just off a cliff, playing not to get hurt I guess, or the excitement just wore off.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Dec 7 @ 2:06 PM ET
Flyers claimed defense Kevin Connauton off waivers. He's better than Seeler at least.
- PLindbergh31



Heres hoping the bench Yandle.....prob not going to happen though
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Dec 7 @ 2:06 PM ET
Lame for Shane.
- Sublime55

Pain for Shane
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