I guess it depends on what you call good. He is a shadow of the top PP point producing defenseman in the NHL. He is not the right guy for a top PP. Provorov doesn't move or distribute the puck well. Nor does he shoot the puck well on the PP in my opinion. Also not very effective in zone entries.
- MJL

Talking to you for years and know you as a Matt Carle supporter, I wouldn’t pick on Provorov’s shot. Provorov doesn’t have a cannon but his shot is fine. The entire team has a zone entry problem. I think the one defenseman on the ice on the power play should be the least of the zone entry problem. I won’t agree with your other points and just make the point that Provorov being third on the team for PP points behind Giroux and Konency since Vigneault was hired, speaks volumes for the rest of the team. My issue with Provorov on the PP is letting passes hop over his stick and allowing the puck to leave the O zone.

Don’t worry. ESPN says there is a 75% chance they hire Tocchet
- hereticpride

Maybe Keith Primeau can run a practice for Yeo Ming

Maybe the flies need Pat Croce

Remember when only our PP sucked? We've come a long way.

How come you are posting before 5 PM on a weekday? Heart led you here?
- PT21

boring deposition ha

although i do question how some of you are on here 24 7. Fires burning in the distance of all of your respective places of employment.

Again, all completely anecdotal.
- MJL

You keep saying anecdotal (evidence), but you really mean circumstantial (or to be even more precise, circumstantial relationship evidence). Anecdotal would be if I said I bumped into Hexy and he ranted about Homer.

boring deposition ha

although i do question how some of you are on here 24 7. Fires burning in the distance of all of your respective places of employment.
- stayinthefnnet

The how is easily answered (back to "work from home" for me). Why is the big why.

https://nypost.com/2019/07/01/rangers-sign-artemi-panarin-as-islanders-come-up-empty/

https://www.cbssports.com...in-with-massive-contract/

Plenty more out there.
- MJL

yeah, and to me that is a bit of the luck factor. (at least the factor that diminishes its replicability by sheer design).

Yes, they should be lauded for making the moves they made to clear up space. a lot of those were good players that hurt the product big time to lose. but it sure does help when the premier free agent signing in some time cherry picks you. the allure of the big apple, big city etc whatever, but thats not something every franchise can just bank on.

Sometime around the middle of February into March, the Flyers will be making their moral victory Cup run. Many will be fooled.
- MJL

None more than Dave Scott.

2. Hexy was apparently big in analytics.
- PT21

Was he? That's news to me.

The how is easily answered (back to "work from home" for me). Why is the big why.
- PT21

the why is easy too. You and some other posters on here need each other like batman and the joker haha im just a gothamite citizen along for the ride.

Was he? That's news to me.
- Tomahawk

It was widely reported when he was hired, he gave interviews about its importance etc.

Though I have to confess, Ian Anderson does not fit my mold of the kind of guy I would like to be there in that role.

the why is easy too. You and some other posters on here need each other like batman and the joker haha im just a gothamite citizen along for the ride.
- stayinthefnnet

I don't think thats true for me at least ...

Was he? That's news to me.
- Tomahawk

I'd need to see the numbers. How much was he into it in comparison to other GMs? IS there a graph or heat map?

I'd need to see the numbers. How much was he into it in comparison to other GMs? IS there a graph or heat map?
- Dkos

Smoking (gun):

It was widely reported when he was hired, he gave interviews about its importance etc.

Though I have to confess, Ian Anderson does not fit my mold of the kind of guy I would like to be there in that role.
- PT21

IIRC he was kinda just dabbling even though he was coming from LA, which had a relatively advanced program at the time.

Hexy does get credit for finally getting the team to flesh out the department, but I never saw anything that would suggest that those people got a seat at the adult's table.

The Flyers are still so far behind the curve that its not even funny.

yeah, and to me that is a bit of the luck factor. (at least the factor that diminishes its replicability by sheer design).

Yes, they should be lauded for making the moves they made to clear up space. a lot of those were good players that hurt the product big time to lose. but it sure does help when the premier free agent signing in some time cherry picks you. the allure of the big apple, big city etc whatever, but thats not something every franchise can just bank on.
- stayinthefnnet

Then top it off with a future Norris trophy defenseman not wanting to sign anywhere else but with the Rangers. Helps a lot.

Smoking (gun):
- PT21

I'd rather hump Tulsky's galaxy brain

Smoking (gun):




- PT21

the franchise is saved.

IIRC he was kinda just dabbling even though he was coming from LA, which had a relatively advanced program at the time.

Hexy does get credit for finally getting the team to flesh out the department, but I never saw anything that would suggest that those people got a seat at the adult's table.

The Flyers are still so far behind the curve that its not even funny.
- Tomahawk

IIRC, Hextall was just starting to build up an analytics department.

Then top it off with a future Norris trophy defenseman not wanting to sign anywhere else but with the Rangers. Helps a lot.
- MJL

come to think of it, pretty ballsy by fox in retrospect.

he hadnt really accomplished a whole heck of a lot by that point. but yeah, the concept remains. sure helps.

I'd rather hump Tulsky's galaxy brain
- Tomahawk

I'd like to know what analytics if any, told them to walk away from Dougie Hamilton. Man I wish the Flyers had signed him.

IIRC he was kinda just dabbling even though he was coming from LA, which had a relatively advanced program at the time.

Hexy does get credit for finally getting the team to flesh out the department, but I never saw anything that would suggest that those people got a seat at the adult's table.

The Flyers are still so far behind the curve that its not even funny.
- Tomahawk

You may be right, I know a lot less about these things than you do, but there was a lot of "noise" about it, as in articles/comments/discussions. Even on this board.

Whether such noise translated into action and why it did or did not is a different story.

I believe you (bolded), based on my gut instincts and some casual investigations. But what is the curve?

I'd like to know what analytics if any, told them to walk away from Dougie Hamilton. Man I wish the Flyers had signed him.
- MJL

We are better off with Yandle!

I'd like to know what analytics if any, told them to walk away from Dougie Hamilton. Man I wish the Flyers had signed him.
- MJL

i do believe a few of us were saying that he was who they should have gone after. obviously you never know why a guy signs where and if other teams are even in the running etc. it blows my mind how carolina seems to just keep on running without him.

also, you recall my absolute glee with the risto deal haha