I haven't followed the Krakken but they have some good underlying numbers. It seems like they haven't gotten good goaltending. Hakstol got more out of far less talented teams than AV did here. He was cast as a bad coach. He wasn't.
- MJL

The players are also to blame for not putting in the effort to make the coach look good. Theres enough blame to go around from all management to the players.

I'm wondering when some will realize that it's already too late for this season. The best thing they can do is to try and build some semblance of a team game for the future. I'd like to know where Taryn is getting that information.
- MJL

Taryn didn't say other than there were rumblings come out of the locker rom now that AV is gone.

Translation: Hire me!! Hire me!!

(please don't)
- Tomahawk

Its funny you say that since I was thinking the same thing when I watched it. Torts was so calm and talked so intelligently, and I'm thinking "you fraud, when the camera's are off the beast comes out!"

Though I would love for Torts to say this to this Flyer's team right now!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biZlEtaXbw8&t=2s

That is not at all true. Dump and chase has been successful for this team plenty of time when they actually worked for it. The whole point of the dump and chase is the fact that the Dmen have to turn around and accelerate while the FWD just keeps moving. You dont beat the D there every time. The 2nd aspect of it is you are supposed to force the Dman to make a play. If you pressure the D, they chip it up the boards and you can take it away.

When the Flyers execute the dump and chase properly, it is successful. The problem is that they dont execute it properly consistently. The other aspect is puck battles. We arent winning them
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

It also depends on the team's defensive system you are playing against. Some teams it makes sense to dump it in and win battles below the goal line, however with other teams that may be a losing strategy.

I want nothing to do with Tocchet. But i find it hysterical how his gambling association is brought up when the broadcast talks about the lines changing in game, and the entire pregame and in between period show is sponsored by a gambling app

Did you actually read my comment? You're making my point. I said this Flyers team as structured can't play that dump and chase successfully because they aren't fast enough to get in on the forecheck and they don't win enough puck battles to get the puck once they get in there. You said not true at all and then basically reiterated what I said. And I disagree that they can play that style successfully. Yes, they can play it for periods at a time, but they can't sustain it due to lack of speed and physicality at the forward position. It wears them out more than the other team. That's my point. They can't sustain a forecheck.

- Phillywhiteout

Torts also said the Flyers lack foot speed, and I whole heartedly agree with him!

Please, no Tocchet or Tortorella. I actually really like both guys but not to coach the Flyers. The Flyers need a more cutting edge modern coach. Don't know who that is.
- MJL

Lane Lambert knows Barry Trotz's system very well since he has been his assistant coach every where he has been, he would be a good candidate. Also Jae Sacco from the Bruins, another assistant that knows the Bruins' defensive system well. And maybe Mike Yeo, I think we should give him a chance.

Taryn didn't say other than there were rumblings come out of the locker rom now that AV is gone.
- jd250

Hard to say. I highly doubt that she has connected sources or that players are talking to her about it. I can believe it though.

Lane Lambert knows Barry Trotz's system very well since he has been his assistant coach every where he has been, he would be a good candidate. Also Jae Sacco from the Bruins, another assistant that knows the Bruins' defensive system well. And maybe Mike Yeo, I think we should give him a chance.
- jd250

I'm more interested in bringing in a coach with an attacking puck moving style of play. A tight defensive system would certainly make the Flyers a better and more competitive team but ultimately, not the best way to play.

Or they are just that confident in their player modeling.
- Tomahawk

It's a matter of which perspective you use: say you gave up your job to become a chef for the first time. In middle-age. You have researched the new profession, cooked at home, and done essentially all you could a priori.

To you, if you are very confident in your analysis and prep, it might not seem a risk. But from the conventional perspective, it would still, simply because all large changes cannot be predicted and planned for.

When was the last time a team on the verge of contention did not resign their star 1st pairing D at his prime? Every single top dman that moved in the past couple of decades (Chara, Redden, Weber, PK, Suter, Seth, Pietro, Karlsson, etc.) did so with completely different team dynamics in place.

The reason this move did not get the publicity it would is likely because Hamilton tends to fly under the radar, and so does Carolina. Imagine if we did the same for Provy after 2020, or Leafs let Rielly walk. It would be discussed endlessly.

Sure you did when you said they had no internal replacement. Now you're just trying to mask that you were completely unaware of what actually happened.

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- MJL

No, I am trying to unmask the word "internal" for you. Because apparently, my using "no internal replacement" translates in your mind to "no replacement", which would mean Carolina was winging it.

The word internal is significant because the "no internal/external" part adds to the inherent risk to replacement. So does the fact that the specific players being brought were further question marks in and of themselves. Bear, for example, was very young, has question marks, and played in a vastly different team.

I have said the same thign 5 times, but you are too far down your rabbit hole of clowndom for further repetitions to justify keystroke time and effort.

It's a matter of which perspective you use: say you gave up your job to become a chef for the first time. In middle-age. You have researched the new profession, cooked at home, and done essentially all you could a priori.

To you, if you are very confident in your analysis and prep, it might not seem a risk. But from the conventional perspective, it would still, simply because all large changes cannot be predicted and planned for.

When was the last time a team on the verge of contention did not resign their star 1st pairing D at his prime? Every single top dman that moved in the past couple of decades (Chara, Redden, Weber, PK, Suter, Seth, Pietro, Karlsson, etc.) did so with completely different team dynamics in place.

The reason this move did not get the publicity it would is likely because Hamilton tends to fly under the radar, and so does Carolina. Imagine if we did the same for Provy after 2020, or Leafs let Rielly walk. It would be discussed endlessly.
- PT21

First of all, you started with another irrelevant analogy in a long line of them.
More importantly, Hamilton doesn't fly under the radar. He is widely known as one of the best defenseman in the NHL. Have you been following the hockey community in Carolina closely to know how heavy they've discussed it?

Here is my take. You are correct that it's rare that a contending team walks away from a top defenseman. In my opinion what they are trying to do, is to try and stay out of the cap position that a quality team eventually gets into. Where whether they win a Cup or not, you eventually have to bite the bullet and lose some players. They are choosing proactively, what players they feel they can replace, either individually or collectively. To try and stay out of that prohibitive cap position. They targeted Ethan Bear because of his offensive upside. They brought in DeAngelo on a one year deal. The challenge moving forward for them is if they can sufficiently develop Bear. What to do with DeAngelo having a very good year. Also how to handle the Kotkianiemi QO situation and if they can get him to agree to a lower cap hit multi year deal. They're actually trend setting here a little bit.

No, I am trying to unmask the word "internal" for you. Because apparently, my using "no internal replacement" translates in your mind to "no replacement", which would mean Carolina was winging it.


- PT21

No unmasking needed. What you're actually trying to do is to have a meaningless argument. To mask the fact that you did not have the facts on the situation and attempted to use that they didn't have an internal replacement as a point to support your risk premise. It's your arrogance that makes you believe that I don't know what internal means. They had the replacement plan in effect before they let Hamilton walk. That's the scope of the situation. Not you limiting it to internal replacements.

The word internal is significant because the "no internal/external" part adds to the inherent risk to replacement. So does the fact that the specific players being brought were further question marks in and of themselves. Bear, for example, was very young, has question marks, and played in a vastly different team.

I have said the same thign 5 times, but you are too far down your rabbit hole of clowndom for further repetitions to justify keystroke time and effort.
- PT21

Again, your arrogance shows through. Far too wrapped up in your own thoughts to grasp what has been plainly said and explained to you. By myself and Tomahawk who put it very succinctly that the Canes are very confident in their player evaluations.

... This franchise, once a crown jewel of the NHL is now resembling some golden age actress who in her day was gorgeous and a leading lady and is painfully past her prime, acting in horrible roles and the laughingstock of the industry...
- Brad Marsh Fan