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corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Dec 10 @ 11:43 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Flyers Gameday: 12/10/21 @ VGK
- bmeltzer


What could possibly go wrong tonight?
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Dec 10 @ 11:44 AM ET
His career is basically over.

Between Morin and Patrick, I don't know who to feel sorry for more.

- Tomahawk


I think Morin at least has a great attitude, but its sucks for both
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Dec 10 @ 11:48 AM ET
His career is basically over.

Between Morin and Patrick, I don't know who to feel sorry for more.

- Tomahawk


Eric well wood.
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Dec 10 @ 11:48 AM ET
His career is basically over.

Between Morin and Patrick, I don't know who to feel sorry for more.

- Tomahawk


Absolutely has to be Morin. Patrick comes off as being entitled to being good and not questioned.
That may not be the case but his smirks and attitude during press availability came across that way.
Morin just has trash knees.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Dec 10 @ 11:49 AM ET
What could possibly go wrong tonight?
- corduroy


According to some any decision made will be incorrect. The clear answer and path is evident.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Dec 10 @ 11:51 AM ET
Trotz system is predicated on a lot of beef and foot speed to retrieve dump ins... as we've seen the Flyers personnel falls way short there.

I'd rather they not try to copy anything other coaches/teams are doing -- Flyers have been guilty of doing that for decades with little to no results.

Find a coach who is willing to tailor a system to the personnel at hand... they're not gonna be able to get rid of every player off this roster, so they're just gonna have to use them better.

- Tomahawk


As stated before. This team will need to win 1-0, 2-1 games. For this year I’d bring guy Boucher in to implement the 1-3-1 and bring in a good power play mind to help, and hope for the best
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Dec 10 @ 11:53 AM ET
As stated before. This team will need to win 1-0, 2-1 games. For this year I’d bring guy Boucher in to implement the 1-3-1 and bring in a good power play mind to help, and hope for the best
- Just5


Well. Didn’t yeo okay the trap in Minnie. Or is he the coach that got rid of it. Can’t remember.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 10 @ 11:55 AM ET
As stated before. This team will need to win 1-0, 2-1 games. For this year I’d bring guy Boucher in to implement the 1-3-1 and bring in a good power play mind to help, and hope for the best
- Just5


LOL. I think you just make it up.
iamscore2day
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 03.23.2021

Dec 10 @ 11:59 AM ET
Can’t help but to hope for this kid

https://flyersnittygritty...y-brieres-maine-mariners/

- wcorvette

I agree with that. He really got hosed with that brutal hit.
iamscore2day
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 03.23.2021

Dec 10 @ 12:03 PM ET
I don't want Torts to coach this team, but just once I want Fletcher to pay him to address the team mid game just like this!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biZlEtaXbw8&t=2s

He says everything I would want to say to this team right now!

- jd250

Classic. His interactions with the media are even better. He won't get picked because he would say the same things to the wardens of our little camp. They would definitely not be used to that kind of feedback.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Dec 10 @ 12:08 PM ET
Classic. His interactions with the media are even better. He won't get picked because he would say the same things to the wardens of our little camp. They would definitely not be used to that kind of feedback.
- iamscore2day

torts would be great for this team because he would destroy the safe space that has been created by our captain
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Dec 10 @ 12:27 PM ET
Trotz system is predicated on a lot of beef and foot speed to retrieve dump ins... as we've seen the Flyers personnel falls way short there.

I'd rather they not try to copy anything other coaches/teams are doing -- Flyers have been guilty of doing that for decades with little to no results.

Find a coach who is willing to tailor a system to the personnel at hand... they're not gonna be able to get rid of every player off this roster, so they're just gonna have to use them better.

- Tomahawk

I don't believe there is a system that can win with the current personnel on the Flyers; more skill and foot speed is needed on this team, so I think its combination of augmenting this team with more talent and getting a coach that can teach them how to play with and without the puck.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Dec 10 @ 12:28 PM ET
His career is basically over.

Between Morin and Patrick, I don't know who to feel sorry for more.

- Tomahawk

Whoever made less money
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Dec 10 @ 12:29 PM ET
His career is basically over.

Between Morin and Patrick, I don't know who to feel sorry for more.

- Tomahawk

I feel bad for the Flyers more than anyone else ... just a selfish fan I guess.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 10 @ 12:31 PM ET
I'm just looking forward to how the organization decides to proceed. To see if they have the fortitude to admit that they were wrong and correct.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Dec 10 @ 12:33 PM ET
I agree with that. He really got hosed with that brutal hit.
- iamscore2day

Of course he is doing well, he is away from the Flyers and now magically healthy! I swear you can't make this up ....
Flyers_1488
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly , PA
Joined: 05.15.2012

Dec 10 @ 12:37 PM ET
Now all we need is MBFlyerfan to join in with his stupid sh#t
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Dec 10 @ 12:53 PM ET
I'm just looking forward to how the organization decides to proceed. To see if they have the fortitude to admit that they were wrong and correct.
- MJL

Me too, however you and I have a different opinion of what the Flyers need to admit they got wrong and what to do next. I think the players Fletcher brought in this off season were good players and would help this team, but the realization has to be that this core group is not good enough and Fletcher thus needs to get rid of some more vets and replace with younger, more skilled and faster players.
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Dec 10 @ 12:55 PM ET
Now all we need is MBFlyerfan to join in with his stupid sh#t
- Flyers_1488

Looks like you beat him to it
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Dec 10 @ 12:55 PM ET
His career is basically over.

Between Morin and Patrick, I don't know who to feel sorry for more.

- Tomahawk


Personally, I feel far more for NP. His comparables (in terms of draft position) are so public, and they all have ~$50m contracts.

What happened to the JVR you were describing early this season as the 200 foot team player who has changed his game and now provides glorious asssists? That guy seems to have gone, and so has the old JVR the sniper...
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Dec 10 @ 12:57 PM ET
Now all we need is MBFlyerfan to join in with his stupid sh#t
- Flyers_1488

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 10 @ 12:58 PM ET
Me too, however you and I have a different opinion of what the Flyers need to admit they got wrong and what to do next. I think the players Fletcher brought in this off season were good players and would help this team, but the realization has to be that this core group is not good enough and Fletcher thus needs to get rid of some more vets and replace with younger, more skilled and faster players.
- jd250


So he brought in vets last year and now he needs to get rid of some vets. Makes sense. Change the culture again? Last year you were sick and tired of waiting and draft picks take too long to make the team. Now you say they need to get younger, faster and add more skill. Can't make it up.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Dec 10 @ 1:00 PM ET
Looks like you beat him to it
- THE BLACK HAND



I must be be stupid because I have no idea what he is talking about or referring to.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 10 @ 1:01 PM ET
Whoever made less money
- ClaudeFather


Then Morin, cause Patrick's agent was somehow able to get Vegas to give him a two year deal at $1.2m AAV.
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Dec 10 @ 1:04 PM ET
I must be be stupid because I have no idea what he is talking about or referring to.
- MBFlyerfan

It doesnt matter
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