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Big_E_88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilmington, DE
Joined: 01.17.2014

Dec 14 @ 11:13 AM ET
Delilah's was famous for air dances back in the day. They were social distancing before it became fashionable. Iotw, unless things have changed, wouldn't cure much.
- PT21


Ah, I see. I’ve never been, just remember seeing the billboards & hearing the radio commercials.

As far as not curing much, sounds like it would be right in line with this current Flyers medical staff
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Dec 14 @ 11:14 AM ET
I just assumed he was replaced with a marginally better player who is used to playing with Yandle.

Giroux Coots Konecny
Farabee Hayes JVR
Frost Laughton Atkinson (or Laughton Frost Atkinson)
Lindblom Brassard Allison

Just spitballin'

- MBFlyerfan

Laughton looks way more effective at wing. It’s a shame about Brassard, the team has way more offensive jump when he’s in the line up.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Dec 14 @ 11:19 AM ET
86 Joel Farabee - 14 Sean Couturier- 11 Travis Konecny
48 Morgan Frost - 28 Claude Giroux- 89 Cam Atkinson
19 Derek Brassard - 13 Kevin Hayes- 25 James van Riemsdyk
23 Oskar Lindblom - 21 Scott Laughton - 17 Zack MacEwen

Not sure I would put Wade Allison in right now. Laughton is the much better defensive center between him and Brassard. I go with the more responsible defensive center on the fourth line all day.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Dec 14 @ 11:21 AM ET
[quote=MBFlyerfan]21 Scott Laughton- 14 Sean Couturier- 11 Travis Konecny
48 Morgan Frost - 28 Claude Giroux-89 Cam Atkinson
71 Max Willman - 13 Kevin Hayes- 25 James van Riemsdyk
23 Oskar Lindblom - 38 Patrick Brown - 17 Zack MacEwen

What do we think this will look like when Farabee, Brassard and Allison return?

Bee/Coots/TK
Frost/G/Allison/JVR
Laughton/Hayes/CAM
Oscar/Brassard/JVR


PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 14 @ 11:47 AM ET
Devils have an 8 game losing streak sandwiched around two curb stompings of the Flyers. Maybe try beating them tonight.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Dec 14 @ 11:49 AM ET
Devils have an 8 game losing streak sandwiched around two curb stompings of the Flyers. Maybe try beating them tonight.
- PLindbergh31



If I was giving the pregame speech I think I would use exactly that point.

"Hey guys, lets go out there and try to win this game tonight! On three! One Two three win!"

Leadership!
iamscore2day
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 03.23.2021

Dec 14 @ 11:52 AM ET
When is Thompson coming back?

I'd keep G at center and with Frost but I don't think that happens.
86 Farabee - 14 Sean Couturier- 11 Travis Konecny
48 Morgan Frost - 28 Claude Giroux-89 Cam Atkinson
21 Scott Laughton - 13 Kevin Hayes- 25 James van Riemsdyk
23 Oskar Lindblom - 19 Brassard- Allison

If Allison can stay healthy, I'd like to see him moved up in the line up, assuming he plays well.

- rayc16

Allison no lower than 3rd line, IMO. He and Hayes will work well together.
iamscore2day
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 03.23.2021

Dec 14 @ 11:53 AM ET
[quote=MBFlyerfan]21 Scott Laughton- 14 Sean Couturier- 11 Travis Konecny
48 Morgan Frost - 28 Claude Giroux-89 Cam Atkinson
71 Max Willman - 13 Kevin Hayes- 25 James van Riemsdyk
23 Oskar Lindblom - 38 Patrick Brown - 17 Zack MacEwen

What do we think this will look like when Farabee, Brassard and Allison return?

Bee/Coots/TK
Frost/G/Allison/JVR
Laughton/Hayes/CAM
Oscar/Brassard/JVR

- wcorvette

I would like to see Cam and TK on the same line. Speed and puck-handling would be a new twist for the flyers.
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Dec 14 @ 12:03 PM ET
I would like to see Cam and TK on the same line. Speed and puck-handling would be a new twist for the flyers.
- iamscore2day


Just like with the second line now though. That is a small line and may not win a lot of board battles. For tonight woukd even switch Scott and frost to see if it sparks anything.

As far as the lines when all healthy. I guess I’ll more believe it when I see it.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 14 @ 12:07 PM ET
I would like to see Cam and TK on the same line. Speed and puck-handling would be a new twist for the flyers.
- iamscore2day


Neither Atkinson or Konecny are that particularly fast.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Dec 14 @ 12:09 PM ET
I just assumed he was replaced with a marginally better player who is used to playing with Yandle.

Giroux Coots Konecny
Farabee Hayes JVR
Frost Laughton Atkinson (or Laughton Frost Atkinson)
Lindblom Brassard Allison

Just spitballin'
-MBFLyerfan

I would to see a speed line like Frost centering Farabee and Cam to see how that worked. Or maybe Frost - Bee - MacEwen, where MacEwen creates space for the other two to work.
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Dec 14 @ 12:11 PM ET
Neither Atkinson or Konecny are that particularly fast.
- MJL


Lol. Which is concerning as Tk is one of our better skaters. See Edmonton game.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 14 @ 12:12 PM ET
I would to see a speed line like Frost centering Farabee and Cam to see how that worked. Or maybe Frost - Bee - MacEwen, where MacEwen creates space for the other two to work.
- jd250


I like some of the qualities that MacEwen has as a player but the Flyers are kidding themselves if he is anything more than a low minute 4th line player.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Dec 14 @ 12:13 PM ET
Lol. Which is concerning as Tk is one of our better skaters. See Edmonton game.
- Peter Richards


So TK isnt fast, and one of our fastest skaters. But someone keeps saying we arent a slow team, but just play slow

Something isnt adding up here
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 14 @ 12:14 PM ET
Slow----------(Something is in the middle)-------------Fast
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Dec 14 @ 12:18 PM ET
Slow----------(Something is in the middle)-------------Fast
- MJL


exactly, you said TK isnt fast.....but he is one of the fastest flyers (prob top 5). But you also say we arent a slow team. Its not adding up. If he is top 5 say, that means 15 people slower.... = slow team
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Dec 14 @ 12:19 PM ET
Neither Atkinson or Konecny are that particularly fast.
- MJL



Hmm. TK is fast, and has always known to be so, right from when he was drafted. He finished 7th out of 8th in the all-star event (when Barzal broke McDavid's reign), but the mere fact he was selected for it speaks to that. Looking at times, his time would have been close to the best as recently as 08 and 09. Almost certainly in the top 20% of the league.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Dec 14 @ 12:20 PM ET
exactly, you said TK isnt fast.....but he is one of the fastest flyers (prob top 5). But you also say we arent a slow team. Its not adding up. If he is top 5 say, that means 15 people slower.... = slow team
- bradster

Anyone that says this isn’t a slow team is kidding themselves. You can argue they play slow with their approach but they also aren’t fast skaters.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 14 @ 12:22 PM ET
Hmm. TK is fast, and has always known to be so, right from when he was drafted. He finished 7th out of 8th in the all-star event (when Barzal broke McDavid's reign), but the mere fact he was selected for it speaks to that. Looking at times, his time would have been close to the best as recently as 08 and 09. Almost certainly in the top 20% of the league.
- PT21


Konecny is not fast. He's an above average skater but he is not in the category of fast in the NHL. He has some quickness with the puck but he is not fast.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 14 @ 12:22 PM ET
Anyone that says this isn’t a slow team is kidding themselves. You can argue they play slow with their approach but they also aren’t fast skaters.
- ClaudeFather



The Flyers are an average skating team.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Dec 14 @ 12:24 PM ET
The Flyers are an average skating team.
- MJL

We all watch the games, they are almost never the better skating teams on the ice. What teams are slower ?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 14 @ 12:26 PM ET
We all watch the games, they are almost never the better skating teams on the ice. What teams are slower ?
- ClaudeFather


How fast do you skate when you play most of the game defending in your own zone? The Flyers have no real speedsters in their lineup but they aren't slow. They're an average skating team that often plays a slow game.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Dec 14 @ 12:28 PM ET
How fast do you skate when you play most of the game defending in your own zone? The Flyers have no real speedsters in their lineup but they aren't slow. They're an average skating team that often plays a slow game.
- MJL

If you have no speedsters, a bunch of average guys, and some real slow ones, that would make you one of the slower teams in the league.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Dec 14 @ 12:30 PM ET
Konecny is not fast. He's an above average skater but he is not in the category of fast in the NHL. He has some quickness with the puck but he is not fast.
- MJL


If you say so. Other opinions and simple comparison of skating speeds provide a different picture. He has always looked fast to me.

https://thehockeywriters....l-draft-prospect-profile/

And you can compare his times in the skills comp (speed test) in 2020 for yourself to historical records.

EDIT: Btw, Atinson was also selected for the skating speed contest in 2019. Placed 6th I see.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Dec 14 @ 12:33 PM ET
If you have no speedsters, a bunch of average guys, and some real slow ones, that would make you one of the slower teams in the league.
- ClaudeFather



100%, however i would say TK is fast
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