Maybe it's time our officials actually started admitting that vaccination isn't curbing transmission as much as they expected. Too many of the vaccinated believe they couldn't possibly be responsible for helping the spread.
- Nelson19777

You are right, a little transparency would be nice from our corrupt politicians…regardless, the vaccine stops severe illness and that’s what matters

They should have nothing to worry about, because Bill Daley said

"...for the most part, players had been contracting the virus through community spread, rather than outbreaks with teams. They can tell by looking at the strains of the virus that have infected the players."

If you believe that line of horsepoop.
- Nelson19777

Yeah. That's some high comedy by right there. Kinda feel for Rutherford. Technically this is his first day on the job.

Yeah. That's some high comedy by right there. Kinda feel for Rutherford. Technically this is his first day on the job.
- Load Management

At least he's being a leader, not relying on J.T. Miller to be the lead guy for the front office

Yeah, I see this constant coverage of covid a little redundant. This is the new norm and it’s here to stay like influenza A or influenza B. Get your vaccine, keep up with boosters, wash your hands regularly, wear a mask and let’s get back to living.
- bloatedmosquito

This statement is the single best post in the history of this board.

Vaccine helps the hospitals not get overloaded and helps the Healthcare workers. We understand the virus now we know how to deal with it to an extent we can live with.

Yeah. That's some high comedy by right there. Kinda feel for Rutherford. Technically this is his first day on the job.
- Load Management

What am i missing here?
you guys don't think genome sequencing is a thing? or??

What am i missing here?
you guys don't think genome sequencing is a thing? or??
- dbot

Huh. No, I was laughing at Daley's notion that players aren't transmitting the virus to each other.

Huh. No, I was laughing at Daley's notion that players aren't transmitting the virus to each other.
- Load Management

Ah.
But they are tracing the different strains and can essentially tell who is passing it to whom.
So you think the health authorities are lying about this?

I find it hard to believe that someone wouldn't blow the whistle on the NHL if they reported one thing and Daley reported another.

Ah.
But they are tracing the different strains and can essentially tell who is passing it to whom.
So you think the health authorities are lying about this?

I find it hard to believe that someone wouldn't blow the whistle on the NHL if they reported one thing and Daley reported another.
- dbot

Whether this one particular detail is true or not, I can almost sense all the tinfoil hat wearers on this thread

Ah.
But they are tracing the different strains and can essentially tell who is passing it to whom.
So you think the health authorities are lying about this?

I find it hard to believe that someone wouldn't blow the whistle on the NHL if they reported one thing and Daley reported another.
- dbot

No. I think what the NHL reporting is protecting their interests. They are under no obligation to tell the truth to the public. Or they can seek out a medical opinion that caters to their interests and report it as the truth. For example, look at how they've handled brain injuries in the past.

Maybe it's time our officials actually started admitting that vaccination isn't curbing transmission as much as they expected. Too many of the vaccinated believe they couldn't possibly be responsible for helping the spread.
- Nelson19777

There is ignorance everywhere. Ppl respect this pandemic & give others space is simple. There are many idiots wherever I go whether at work or shopping who disregard this.

Vaccinations were never about eliminating transmission. It was purely about limiting the severity of the condition so the infected didn’t take up too many hospital beds. Vaccines help reduce severity, that’s an indisputable fact.

Our healthcare system is in trouble. It can’t deal with the case load before covid. A severe enough pandemic would absolutely cripple it. When experts talked about flattening the curve, it wasn’t about infection rates, it was about hospitalizations.

So we as a society will have to come up with a way to deal with viral outbreaks going forward. Like the old days we are just going to have sanatoriums to separate the infected from our acute hospitals.
- bloatedmosquito

It has been noticeable that "the authorities" have not spoken openly about the findings that COVID can and will still be transmitted by vax'ed people. At first it seemed everyone hoped vaccinations would stop spread but then that was put to bed, but not really talked about. (I can see why as the non-vaxed will jump on every and any reason to stand their (ignorant) ground, but I can see how people get mixed up.). The vaccines help you fight off COVID - if you don't get them you are risking severe health problems! Just go watch super sexy Misty from Homestead Rescue if you don't think the tough aren't going to get sick!

No. I think what the NHL reporting is protecting their interests. They are under no obligation to tell the truth to the public. Or they can seek out a medical opinion that caters to their interests and report it as the truth. For example, look at how they've handled brain injuries in the past.
- Load Management

By definition "Game management" is corruption!

You are right, a little transparency would be nice from our corrupt politicians…regardless, the vaccine stops severe illness and that’s what matters
- CanuckDon

Ideally yes but there are too many citizens who panic over the slightest things & the paranoia ensues. Empty store shelves hoarding on the outbreak are proof. My nephews gf wouldn’t let him work or visit us for over a year yet she could see family. Totally self serving nut bar.

It has been noticeable that "the authorities" have not spoken openly about the findings that COVID can and will still be transmitted by vax'ed people. At first it seemed everyone hoped vaccinations would stop spread but then that was put to bed, but not really talked about. (I can see why as the non-vaxed will jump on every and any reason to stand their (ignorant) ground, but I can see how people get mixed up.). The vaccines help you fight off COVID - if you don't get them you are risking severe health problems! Just go watch super sexy Misty from Homestead Rescue if you don't think the tough aren't going to get sick!
- TJTD

How would you feel about anti vaxers being admitted only after vaxers contracting covid?

Imo vaxing is optional but they also don’t get to jump the line they are 1st after all the vaxers are treated.

How would you feel about anti vaxers being admitted only after vaxers contracting covid?

Imo vaxing is optional but they also don’t get to jump the line they are 1st after all the vaxers are treated.
- Nighthawk

How about we stop treating non taxpayers instead. It's a much easier argument to make.

It has been noticeable that "the authorities" have not spoken openly about the findings that COVID can and will still be transmitted by vax'ed people. At first it seemed everyone hoped vaccinations would stop spread but then that was put to bed, but not really talked about. (I can see why as the non-vaxed will jump on every and any reason to stand their (ignorant) ground, but I can see how people get mixed up.). The vaccines help you fight off COVID - if you don't get them you are risking severe health problems! Just go watch super sexy Misty from Homestead Rescue if you don't think the tough aren't going to get sick!
- TJTD

I guess that's how you interpreted it, I certainly didn't. I don't remember "the authorities" saying it was a cure.

Ideally yes but there are too many citizens who panic over the slightest things & the paranoia ensues. Empty store shelves hoarding on the outbreak are proof. My nephews gf wouldn’t let him work or visit us for over a year yet she could see family. Totally self serving nut bar.
- Nighthawk

At the beginning of the pandemic my parents invited me over for dinner and I declined. My dad said, your grandfather survived the Spanish flu and sewing bodies together during D Day (he was a surgeon) and you won’t visit your parents because of a flu with a high survival rate? He offered to sign a waiver that he accepted the risks of his son killing him with Covid. I attended family dinner: sometimes perspective is needed. What a soft world we live in

No. I think what the NHL reporting is protecting their interests. They are under no obligation to tell the truth to the public. Or they can seek out a medical opinion that caters to their interests and report it as the truth. For example, look at how they've handled brain injuries in the past.
- Load Management

I hear what you're saying.
I think genome sequencing is pretty definitive though, not a lot of wiggle room to adjust the results.
Maybe Codes would know more?

But yes, with the head trauma, I totally agree.

How would you feel about anti vaxers being admitted only after vaxers contracting covid?

Imo vaxing is optional but they also don’t get to jump the line they are 1st after all the vaxers are treated.
- Nighthawk

Yes. I think that is reasonable in one form or another. The concept of triage is in place now, but I don't think it takes into account previous choices of the patient - only immediate needs of said patient. It is quite a dilemma.

I heard of a proposal of higher taxes or a surcharge for health services if you are not vaccinated. I like this idea, but down every avenue it is the government that should govern and decide policy, but are too irresponsible and weak. Democratic Governments reflect the people they represent, and I think people are way too irresponsible these days so there doesn't seem to be any real consequences for inaction (or bad action) in Canada. As Metallica would say "Sad but true"

At the beginning of the pandemic my parents invited me over for dinner and I declined. My dad said, your grandfather survived the Spanish flu and sewing bodies together during D Day (he was a surgeon) and you won’t visit your parents because of a flu with a high survival rate? He offered to sign a waiver that he accepted the risks of his son killing him with Covid. I attended family dinner: sometimes perspective is needed. What a soft world we live in
- CanuckDon

Great story. Would have been funnier if you'd killed your dad with covid, though.

Great story. Would have been funnier if you'd killed your dad with covid, though.
- micah555

That’s pretty dark. Why would that be funny?

I guess that's how you interpreted it, I certainly didn't. I don't remember "the authorities" saying it was a cure.
- Marwood

not a cure, but that it would not survive to the next. A few years ago there was an outbreak of measles in Pemberton and I had some good friends scrambling for vaccinations after they saw what happened to some of their own....stupidity and the kids suffer for life.

It has been noticeable that "the authorities" have not spoken openly about the findings that COVID can and will still be transmitted by vax'ed people. At first it seemed everyone hoped vaccinations would stop spread but then that was put to bed, but not really talked about. (I can see why as the non-vaxed will jump on every and any reason to stand their (ignorant) ground, but I can see how people get mixed up.). The vaccines help you fight off COVID - if you don't get them you are risking severe health problems! Just go watch super sexy Misty from Homestead Rescue if you don't think the tough aren't going to get sick!
- TJTD

Problem is they have NOT put this to bed, they are still touting it as fact. Seems pretty obvious it isn't stopping (or even slowing) transmission. Lying also gives people reasons to not trust them and question their motives. I am fully vaxxed, but am very unimpressed with the shady tactics being employed by our government to coerce while claiming it's not mandated. Everyone has the right to make stupid decisions.

I guess that's how you interpreted it, I certainly didn't. I don't remember "the authorities" saying it was a cure.
- Marwood

Yeah that information was at the forefront everywhere from what I saw. "The vaccine won't prevent you from getting Covid, but it can reduce the duration, severity, and liklihood of spreading to others" is what I recall hearing.

Not only do people seem to see in black and white more nowadays but they hear in it as well

That’s pretty dark. Why would that be funny?
- CanuckDon

I guess because you had a choice but are so stupid you didn't/don't realise it - just like your avatar is a choice.