we've gone from saying Lafreniere is the next captain to trading him

we change our minds like a bunch of broads around here
- jimbro83

I think in my mind, no one is ever untradable. If you think Wright is a franchise level center, then its worth thinking about getting him. I think we both know it's not realistic whoever gets the top pick would ever move it.

Here is a fun question- Knowing what we know now, If they redrafted 2020- Where do you think he gets taken?

I agree- I dont want to trade him but having said that he is less than what I expected considering all the hype he got here and everywhere. Same for kakko.

on the other side of the ledger- I never expect Fox to be what he is...
- Greschnergy#4

Name another time that a number 2 and number 1 overall got drafted to a team where they weren't the best player on the roster immediately. It's frustrating but they are being stunted by not getting 20 mins a night.

Name another time that a number 2 and number 1 overall got drafted to a team where they weren't the best player on the roster immediately. It's frustrating but they are being stunted by not getting 20 mins a night.
- JRR1285

yup

Here is a fun question- Knowing what we know now, If they redrafted 2020- Where do you think he gets taken?
- Greschnergy#4

Little premature to redraft 2020 based on current performances. Maybe wait until the end of next season.

Name another time that a number 2 and number 1 overall got drafted to a team where they weren't the best player on the roster immediately. It's frustrating but they are being stunted by not getting 20 mins a night.
- JRR1285

well part of it is we were probably the best team to ever get first overall when you think about it

except maybe the 1971 Canadiens when they got Guy Lafleur, but when you look back on him he wasn't gangbusters out of the gate either

well part of it is we were probably the best team to ever get first overall when you think about it

except maybe the 1971 Canadiens when they got Guy Lafleur, but when you look back on him he wasn't gangbusters out of the gate either
- jimbro83

That might be a decent comparison. I'm not saying he's a legend but similar situation as Lafleur. Gets drafted by a team that does not need or deserve him. Gets pushed down the depth chart by established veterans etc.

Edit: Looks like they won the Stanley Cup that year and went on to draft 1OA. How did they decided back then? Pick out of a hat?

That might be a decent comparison. I'm not saying he's a legend but similar situation as Lafleur. Gets drafted by a team that does not need or deserve him. Gets pushed down the depth chart by established veterans etc.
- JRR1285

we can only pray and hope

we can only pray and hope

- Greschnergy#4

I meant in terms of draft position and team taking him. Nothing more, at least yet.

Little premature to redraft 2020 based on current performances. Maybe wait until the end of next season.
- JRR1285

maybe you are right but i just don't think he would be a consensus #1 anymore.

Name another time that a number 2 and number 1 overall got drafted to a team where they weren't the best player on the roster immediately. It's frustrating but they are being stunted by not getting 20 mins a night.
- JRR1285

Isnt that a reason then, because of our depth at LW and the unlikelihood that he gets top line minutes for like 2-3 years atleast, a reason to consider it? Especially for a position of extreme need for us?

We do one of 2 things on this board, complain about or lack of depth at center and complain about how underwhelming LAF had been so far…. why not kill 2 birds?

I meant in terms of draft position and team taking him. Nothing more, at least yet.
- JRR1285

he'll get there

Lafleur was disappointing at first, it was talked about back then, especially when Rangers knocked Montreal out of playoffs in '72

I just dont think anyone is jumping at trading for Laf for a premium. I am pretty sure everyone is watching what is going on. They want him at a discount. not the 1OA. ASre you ready to trade Laf and Kakko for Wright? or Laf and Miller/Schneider/Otthman?
- Greschnergy#4

Id have the package something along the lines of LAF, Nils, Chytil and a 1st.

Isnt that a reason then, because of our depth at LW and the unlikelihood that he gets top line minutes for like 2-3 years atleast, a reason to consider it? Especially for a position of extreme need for us?

We do one of 2 things on this board, complain about or lack of depth at center and complain about how underwhelming LAF had been so far…. why not kill 2 birds?
- aecliptic

I dont think there's a chance in hell the Rangers are gonna do it, it's an absolute waste of time to discuss

Isnt that a reason then, because of our depth at LW and the unlikelihood that he gets top line minutes for like 2-3 years atleast, a reason to consider it? Especially for a position of extreme need for us?

We do one of 2 things on this board, complain about or lack of depth at center and complain about how underwhelming LAF had been so far…. why not kill 2 birds?
- aecliptic

because you wont get fair value right now

he'll get there

Lafleur was disappointing at first, it was talked about back then, especially when Rangers knocked Montreal out of playoffs in '72
- jimbro83

But he could skate like the wind ....

maybe you are right but i just don't think he would be a consensus #1 anymore.
- Greschnergy#4

A lot can change by the end of this season, let along the end of next year.

There's a reason Laf was the consensus 1OA.

Id have the package something along the lines of LAF, Nils, Chytil and a 1st.
- aecliptic

Not enough. Past that point the trade becomes unpalatable.

What if Wright is a bust?

But he could skate like the wind ....
- Greschnergy#4

I think this may be the only knock on Laf and it could definitely hold him back. It's also fixable to an extent. He looks like he skates inefficiently somehow. I wonder if a skating coach could help him further refine his stride.

A lot can change by the end of this season, let along the end of next year.

There's a reason Laf was the consensus 1OA.
- JRR1285

do tell ?


he just has not been eye popping for me. I was more impressed shown from the skills from Rookie Kevin Hayes (chose him because of the skating equality)

Isnt that a reason then, because of our depth at LW and the unlikelihood that he gets top line minutes for like 2-3 years atleast, a reason to consider it? Especially for a position of extreme need for us?

We do one of 2 things on this board, complain about or lack of depth at center and complain about how underwhelming LAF had been so far…. why not kill 2 birds?
- aecliptic

I'm not going to say there isn't logic to this argument, it certainly has merit. I just think there is zero chance of it happening.

Not enough. Past that point the trade becomes unpalatable.

What if Wright is a bust?
- JRR1285

Who knows? Theres always the possibility he turns into the next Alexander Daigle. However, very improbable.

That might be a decent comparison. I'm not saying he's a legend but similar situation as Lafleur. Gets drafted by a team that does not need or deserve him. Gets pushed down the depth chart by established veterans etc.

Edit: Looks like they won the Stanley Cup that year and went on to draft 1OA. How did they decided back then? Pick out of a hat?
- JRR1285

Traded Ralph Backstrom to the Kings during the year so they finished ahead of the Golden Seals, whose pick GM Sam pollack had acquired in an exchange of selections the prior year. California ended up with the first overall pick which Montreal used to take Lafleur.

I'm not going to say there isn't logic to this argument, it certainly has merit. I just think there is zero chance of it happening.
- JRR1285

Of course its not gonna happen, but its something in 5yrs we will look back on as whether we should or shouldnt have.

I think this may be the only knock on Laf and it could definitely hold him back. It's also fixable to an extent. He looks like he skates inefficiently somehow. I wonder if a skating coach could help him further refine his stride.
- JRR1285

Maybe Ron Duguay can work with him ?