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jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Dec 17 @ 10:42 AM ET
Colorado doesn’t count because Shesty didn’t play either game. I’ll make excuses too
- Slimtj100


Georgiev has been solid

but when Shesty isn't playing, they really miss his puck playing ability getting the transition game going
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Dec 17 @ 10:43 AM ET
At what cost?
- aecliptic



Everything.
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Dec 17 @ 10:46 AM ET
Do I think we are a threat for the cup itself, no I don't. However, I haven't seen anything to suggest we can't win a round or two. Just remember, both the 07-08 Hawks and the 12-13 Lightning missed the playoffs before improving rapidly. I'm not saying we are as good as those teams, but it's not out of the question that we could go from nothing to contenders overnight
- 2sticks1puck


The thing is we have cap space right now that we will not have next year. Its like the Lightning, who were an already good team, getting Kutcherov back from LITR. We essentially have house money to play with. Weve got more prospects to develop than we know what to do with. Why not say fk it and trade a pick that will undoubtedly be a late one. Why not trade a prospect that we probably would never be able to ice anyway?
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Dec 17 @ 10:46 AM ET
Everything.
- JRR1285

JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Dec 17 @ 10:47 AM ET

- aecliptic



What if JT doesn't want to come back?
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Dec 17 @ 10:49 AM ET

- JRR1285

Thats what drives me crazy. Only make arguments to fit your narrative as they say. Meanwhile we had a guy who never played a game in the NHL vs them (got blown out obviously) and in Colorado it was a one goal game basically where they played pretty well overall. They probably get a point that game at least with Lord Shesty


jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Dec 17 @ 10:50 AM ET
The thing is we have cap space right now that we will not have next year. Its like the Lightning, who were an already good team, getting Kutcherov back from LITR. We essentially have house money to play with. Weve got more prospects to develop than we know what to do with. Why not say fk it and trade a pick that will undoubtedly be a late one. Why not trade a prospect that we probably would never be able to ice anyway?
- aecliptic


I can get into this idea, using the cap money this year to make the team better

the Shane Wright talk is best reserved for after season
Greschnergy#4
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 12.10.2018

Dec 17 @ 10:51 AM ET
The thing is we have cap space right now that we will not have next year. Its like the Lightning, who were an already good team, getting Kutcherov back from LITR. We essentially have house money to play with. Weve got more prospects to develop than we know what to do with. Why not say fk it and trade a pick that will undoubtedly be a late one. Why not trade a prospect that we probably would never be able to ice anyway?
- aecliptic


I think they will use the money at the deadline for an expiring contract
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Dec 17 @ 10:52 AM ET
What if JT doesn't want to come back?
- JRR1285


he has no NTC
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Dec 17 @ 10:53 AM ET
he has no NTC
- jimbro83



Looked like he has a modified?

Edit:
Contract Notes:
2019-22: Player can submit an 8 team no trade list
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Dec 17 @ 10:54 AM ET
I can get into this idea, using the cap money this year to make the team better

the Shane Wright talk is best reserved for after season

- jimbro83


we can't win anything meaningful with this team as it currently stands unless Shesty steals it. filling that "Hunt" spot in the top 6 and maybe getting someone to bump Nemeth out as rentals would go a decent way toward the ultimate goal
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Dec 17 @ 10:55 AM ET
Looked like he has a modified?

Edit:
Contract Notes:
2019-22: Player can submit an 8 team no trade list

- JRR1285


don't see why we would ever be on that list. we still can't afford him past this year without not being able to resign strome most likely
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Dec 17 @ 10:56 AM ET
don't see why we would ever be on that list. we still can't afford him past this year without not being able to resign strome most likely
- picklerick



I would tend to agree but you never know.

They could flip him at the deadline but probably going to lose some value there. Or they have a tough decision to make.
Greschnergy#4
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 12.10.2018

Dec 17 @ 10:56 AM ET
we can't win anything meaningful with this team as it currently stands unless Shesty steals it. filling that "Hunt" spot in the top 6 and maybe getting someone to bump Nemeth out as rentals would go a decent way toward the ultimate goal
- picklerick


I really dont see Nemeth as being an impediment. He is a decent 7th D. He is better than what Colorado has out there (JJ) and they are a cup fav. Hunt in the top 6 is a problem however
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Dec 17 @ 10:57 AM ET
Looked like he has a modified?

Edit:
Contract Notes:
2019-22: Player can submit an 8 team no trade list

- JRR1285


when he accepted trade from Vancouver it killed his modified NTC for good according to cap friendly
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Dec 17 @ 10:57 AM ET
I really dont see Nemeth as being an impediment. He is a decent 7th D. He is better than what Colorado has out there (JJ) and they are a cup fav. Hunt in the top 6 is a problem however
- Greschnergy#4


nemeth isnt our 7th defenseman right now. he's guaranteed a spot every game
Greschnergy#4
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 12.10.2018

Dec 17 @ 10:58 AM ET
nemeth isnt our 7th defenseman right now. he's guaranteed a spot every game
- picklerick


sorry- I meant 6th
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Dec 17 @ 10:58 AM ET
we can't win anything meaningful with this team as it currently stands unless Shesty steals it. filling that "Hunt" spot in the top 6 and maybe getting someone to bump Nemeth out as rentals would go a decent way toward the ultimate goal
- picklerick



While I don't 100% disagree with you I wouldn't consider winning a round in the playoffs meaningless. It's a long journey and they need to taste the post season and ultimately lose to get that drive. They're not going to construct a juggernaut overnight and go through the playoffs with a team that has almost zero playoff experience.
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Dec 17 @ 10:59 AM ET
sorry- I meant 6th

- Greschnergy#4


hes not the worst but i reckon we could do better with the cap space we have
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Dec 17 @ 10:59 AM ET
While I don't 100% disagree with you I wouldn't consider winning a round in the playoffs meaningless. It's a long journey and they need to taste the post season and ultimately lose to get that drive. They're not going to construct a juggernaut overnight and go through the playoffs with a team that has almost zero playoff experience.
- JRR1285


anything can happen in the playoffs, especially when you have a Hart finalist, a Norris winner and a Vezina candidate
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Dec 17 @ 11:00 AM ET
While I don't 100% disagree with you I wouldn't consider winning a round in the playoffs meaningless. It's a long journey and they need to taste the post season and ultimately lose to get that drive. They're not going to construct a juggernaut overnight and go through the playoffs with a team that has almost zero playoff experience.
- JRR1285


i dont think weve shown we can win even a round without shesty stealing a few, even considering our record
Greschnergy#4
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 12.10.2018

Dec 17 @ 11:00 AM ET
hes not the worst but i reckon we could do better with the cap space we have
- picklerick


he in a stalwart on the PK and that is one of our teams strongest positives.
Greschnergy#4
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 12.10.2018

Dec 17 @ 11:00 AM ET
anything can happen in the playoffs, especially when you have a Hart finalist, a Norris winner and a Vezina candidate
- jimbro83



aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Dec 17 @ 11:01 AM ET
I can get into this idea, using the cap money this year to make the team better

the Shane Wright talk is best reserved for after season

- jimbro83


The Shane Wright talk is just that, talk. An extreme hypothetical.
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Dec 17 @ 11:03 AM ET
he in a stalwart on the PK and that is one of our teams strongest positives.
- Greschnergy#4


if he could stop parking his fat ass infront of our goalie and work on breakout passes he can stay
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