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JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Dec 17 @ 11:05 AM ET
anything can happen in the playoffs, especially when you have a Hart finalist, a Norris winner and a Vezina candidate
- jimbro83



100%

They just need to get there. The experience will be invaluable regardless of outcome.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Dec 17 @ 11:06 AM ET
i dont think weve shown we can win even a round without shesty stealing a few, even considering our record
- picklerick



But he's still part of the team. He can cover up some of the deficiencies until they are resolved either by improved play or outside additions.
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Dec 17 @ 11:06 AM ET
I think they will use the money at the deadline for an expiring contract
- Greschnergy#4


Thats why Im bringing up Pavelski and Giroux. Theyre both on expiriing contracts. Both are excellent at faceoffs, Giroux being one of the best in the league. Both also play RW. We dont need either team to retain money, so we wont have to pay anything extra. Were one of the few teams in the league looking towards the playoffs who can say that.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Dec 17 @ 11:07 AM ET
if he could stop parking his fat ass infront of our goalie and work on breakout passes he can stay
- picklerick



Nemeth is someone who is definitely a replacement level player in my eyes. I doubt the coach(s) feel the same though. They probably love the guy.
Greschnergy#4
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 12.10.2018

Dec 17 @ 11:07 AM ET
if he could stop parking his fat ass infront of our goalie and work on breakout passes he can stay
- picklerick


It wouldnt be the worst thing to cut his 5 x5 minutes and give some of it to Lindy. Especially off defensive draws
Greschnergy#4
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 12.10.2018

Dec 17 @ 11:08 AM ET
Thats why Im bringing up Pavelski and Giroux. Theyre both on expiriing contracts. Both are excellent at faceoffs, Giroux being one of the best in the league. Both also play RW. We dont need either team to retain money, so we wont have to pay anything extra. Were one of the few teams in the league looking towards the playoffs who can say that.
- aecliptic


I think you are right here - if they become available at the deadline- The rangers will be players for them
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Dec 17 @ 11:09 AM ET
Nemeth is someone who is definitely a replacement level player in my eyes. I doubt the coach(s) feel the same though. They probably love the guy.
- JRR1285


I worry about Miller and his stick play. He relies too damn much on it and doesnt use his body to cut people off into the boards.
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Dec 17 @ 11:11 AM ET
It wouldnt be the worst thing to cut his 5 x5 minutes and give some of it to Lindy. Especially off defensive draws
- Greschnergy#4


he's screened his own goalie for at least 2 powerplay goals against that i can remember. pretty sure he tried to catch the puck one of the times

look i dont think he's the worst bottom pairing guy you can have but if we can upgrade with a rental using the space we have i'd say that's a good place for an upgrade. It's that and a top 6 forward
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Dec 17 @ 11:11 AM ET
I worry about Miller and his stick play. He relies too damn much on it and doesnt use his body to cut people off into the boards.
- aecliptic



It's definitely frustrating, especially someone with his size. Trouba couldn't be modeling what he should be partially basing his play on any better.
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Dec 17 @ 11:12 AM ET
I worry about Miller and his stick play. He relies too damn much on it and doesnt use his body to cut people off into the boards.
- aecliptic


if he started using his body the sky would be the limit for him. i think the stick play is just so damn ingrained in his DnA for some reason
Greschnergy#4
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 12.10.2018

Dec 17 @ 11:12 AM ET
I worry about Miller and his stick play. He relies too damn much on it and doesnt use his body to cut people off into the boards.
- aecliptic


Honestly- have you noticed the last few games that he's taking the body more? I think they are working with him on this. Its his 2nd year and like Jan likes to say defensemen's growth is not linear (except Fox )
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Dec 17 @ 11:14 AM ET
Honestly- have you noticed the last few games that he's taking the body more? I think they are working with him on this. Its his 2nd year and like Jan likes to say defensemen's growth is not linear (except Fox )
- Greschnergy#4


Jan also likes to say Faustian
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Dec 17 @ 11:14 AM ET
Thats why Im bringing up Pavelski and Giroux. Theyre both on expiriing contracts. Both are excellent at faceoffs, Giroux being one of the best in the league. Both also play RW. We dont need either team to retain money, so we wont have to pay anything extra. Were one of the few teams in the league looking towards the playoffs who can say that.
- aecliptic


OK i know this will be an unpopular opinion, but what about asking about Burns and seeing if he'd go to RW again? You'd think SJ would give him up for a song, and probably retain salary. He's signed for 3 more years, but he's 36 and if he retires that's really not a big deal.

I've watched him this year, he hasn't lost anything offensively, his defense is a bit suspect. I think he could still be a forward though
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Dec 17 @ 11:15 AM ET
if he started using his body the sky would be the limit for him. i think the stick play is just so damn ingrained in his DnA for some reason
- picklerick


When you spend your whole life basically being the biggest kid on the ice with NHL talent, you get used to using your stick and not the body cause you never had to.

Greschnergy#4
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 12.10.2018

Dec 17 @ 11:15 AM ET
he's screened his own goalie for at least 2 powerplay goals against that i can remember. pretty sure he tried to catch the puck one of the times

look i dont think he's the worst bottom pairing guy you can have but if we can upgrade with a rental using the space we have i'd say that's a good place for an upgrade. It's that and a top 6 forward

- picklerick


And how many times has he blocked shots? He has to be near the top of the team in that stat; but you remember only the negative. I will agree with this- if they can move his contract in the offseason that would be huge.
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Dec 17 @ 11:16 AM ET
OK i know this will be an unpopular opinion, but what about asking about Burns and seeing if he'd go to RW again? You'd think SJ would give him up for a song, and probably retain salary. He's signed for 3 more years, but he's 36 and if he retires that's really not a big deal.

I've watched him this year, he hasn't lost anything offensively, his defense is a bit suspect. I think he could still be a forward though

- 2sticks1puck


i dont think SJ or DAL are ready to give up on their seasons yet so the likelihood we get anyone out of either team right now is probably slim
Greschnergy#4
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 12.10.2018

Dec 17 @ 11:16 AM ET
Jan also likes to say Faustian
- jimbro83



jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Dec 17 @ 11:17 AM ET
OK i know this will be an unpopular opinion, but what about asking about Burns and seeing if he'd go to RW again? You'd think SJ would give him up for a song, and probably retain salary. He's signed for 3 more years, but he's 36 and if he retires that's really not a big deal.

I've watched him this year, he hasn't lost anything offensively, his defense is a bit suspect. I think he could still be a forward though

- 2sticks1puck


because that just gets into hypotheticals that the Sharks need to keep 50% of the contract and all that, and there are cap re-capture penalties if he does retire


picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Dec 17 @ 11:19 AM ET
And how many times has he blocked shots? He has to be near the top of the team in that stat; but you remember only the negative. I will agree with this- if they can move his contract in the offseason that would be huge.
- Greschnergy#4


like i said, it's not all bad with him. and yes, it's easier to remember the negatives. but, i wonder how inflated those blocked shots are with unnecessarily blocked shots vs ones that prevented scoring chances and how much of a net negative or positive he has been in doing so. +/- is by no means a super important stat but he is a -7, which is worst on the team
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Dec 17 @ 11:19 AM ET
OK i know this will be an unpopular opinion, but what about asking about Burns and seeing if he'd go to RW again? You'd think SJ would give him up for a song, and probably retain salary. He's signed for 3 more years, but he's 36 and if he retires that's really not a big deal.

I've watched him this year, he hasn't lost anything offensively, his defense is a bit suspect. I think he could still be a forward though

- 2sticks1puck


The specific reason I want Pavelski or Giroux is their ability to play center and wing. Both of them are winning over 55% of their draws. This now gives us someone on the PK that we can rely on to win defensive zone draws. This now gives us someone to center and lead the PP2. We can go even further and spread it out and have them play between LAF and Gaut with a rolling 3 line attack.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Dec 17 @ 11:19 AM ET
OK i know this will be an unpopular opinion, but what about asking about Burns and seeing if he'd go to RW again? You'd think SJ would give him up for a song, and probably retain salary. He's signed for 3 more years, but he's 36 and if he retires that's really not a big deal.

I've watched him this year, he hasn't lost anything offensively, his defense is a bit suspect. I think he could still be a forward though

- 2sticks1puck




I don't think he's ever played Wing at the NHL level. Not saying he can't because look at Brendan Smith. He's also making too much to consider taking on for 3 years.
Greschnergy#4
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 12.10.2018

Dec 17 @ 11:20 AM ET
like i said, it's not all bad with him. and yes, it's easier to remember the negatives. but, i wonder how inflated those blocked shots are with unnecessarily blocked shots vs ones that prevented scoring chances and how much of a net negative or positive he has been in doing so. +/- is by no means a super important stat but he is a -7, which is worst on the team
- picklerick


he is the worst on the team but someone has to be
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Dec 17 @ 11:21 AM ET
he is the worst on the team but someone has to be
- Greschnergy#4


BUT HE IS WHO WE ARE TALKING ABOUT!

The way i see it we can, and should probably, get some rentals up in here and top 6 forward and bottom pairing defenseman are the 2 places we should upgrade if we can. Mark Giordano round 2 comes to mind
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Dec 17 @ 11:22 AM ET
sounds like Paul Maurice just did a total Peter Gibbons on the Jets and quit





aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Dec 17 @ 11:24 AM ET
I don't think he's ever played Wing at the NHL level. Not saying he can't because look at Brendan Smith. He's also making too much to consider taking on for 3 years.
- JRR1285


Those years that he was Burns was putting up crazy points he was playing wing on the PP a lot and his success there had the team use him as a forward every so often as well.
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