https://wpde.com/news/nation-world/man-who-died-in-motorcycle-crash-counted-as-covid-19-death-in-florida-report-07-18-2020
- c1067

it's very easy for very few incidents to be blown out of proportion to make a point...like the huge voter fraud being promoted when very few instances were actually unearthed

*snicker, snicker*

https://www.foxnews.com/p...ges-arrrested-voter-fraud

No they haven’t
- Fattony1187

Yes, they have..

There's going to be some of these for sure.

I don't think it discredits that the shot protects your from this happening though.
- DirtyDan

I was just making the point with un shot athletes being hospitalized. You are always going to have rare cases. I was just saying that athletes aren’t in danger of hospitalizations and death to COVID.

They've been saying we will need boosters from the start. Its really nothing new.
- DirtyDan

this is very false.

There was no mention of boosters until a few months ago.

I was just making the point with un shot athletes being hospitalized. You are always going to have rare cases. I was just saying that athletes aren’t in danger of hospitalizations and death to COVID.
- c1067

For sure they aren't. Just seems to me that hospitalizations are down and the numbers show if you are vaxxed

In true fashion You have provided 0 counter arguments to any suggested points other than to call people cool nicknames you made up.

Recent studies have shown the booster to not be effective against new strains.

Im asking for clarity, either it works and im a healthy young vax man who poses very little risk to myself and others, or it doesnt and i need to be worried about getting very sick.


but hey i assume we will just come up with new nicknames, Reinfart am i right?
- ImThatGuy

Imma see you outside of a Jims Steakout at this rate.

this is very false.

There was no mention of boosters until a few months ago.
- ImThatGuy

Up here in Canada Its been mentioned from the start.

Yes, they have..
- DirtyDan

The shots were supposed to stop the virus. There was no mention of boosters other than people who mentioned them called “trumptards, anti vaxxers or conspiracy theorists”. And here we are going on shot #4 and we are in the same or worse position then last year with no vaccines

Imma see you outside of a Jims Steakout at this rate.
- RhinoFan

***I didnt create that nickname.

***I didnt create that nickname.
- ImThatGuy

Touche salesman.

Interesting read.
https://www.khon2.com/cor...hs-are-counted-in-hawaii/
- c1067

the reporter on the video actually said that the covid deaths might be undercounted...also mentioned in the video is that the u.s. government gives 20% to cover medicare patients in the hospital with covid...that's taxpayer money going to unvaccinated people in the hospital who passed on a free shot in the name of freedom...

gotta love' these 'murican freedom fighters

The shots were supposed to stop the virus. There was no mention of boosters other than people who mentioned them called “trumptards, anti vaxxers or conspiracy theorists”. And here we are going on shot #4 and we are in the same or worse position then last year with no vaccines
- Fattony1187

No they weren't. You've been reading the wrong shtuff my guy.

Boosters have been mentioned about for the last year at least.

And I totally disagree that we are in a worse position than before. More people are getting tested meaning the numbers are greater. The numbers clearly show the unvaxxed are way more likely to be hosptialized than someone who is vaxxed. Which to my understanding was the reason for these shots.

You can't prevent a virus that adapts and mutates.

I was just making the point with un shot athletes being hospitalized. You are always going to have rare cases. I was just saying that athletes aren’t in danger of hospitalizations and death to COVID.
- c1067

I am vaxed.

If the vax does work and a majority are vaxed, and it does prevent me/you from getting sick then we should be able to move about as we please without mandates, no?

Currently I cant because apparently I am still in danger of getting sick, getting other sick.

Something doesnt add up.

the reporter on the video actually said that the covid deaths might be undercounted...
- Michael Pachla

I agree when you factor in the deaths in non modern countries in asia, africa and south america

No they weren't. You've been reading the wrong shtuff my guy.

Boosters have been mentioned about for the last year at least.

And I totally disagree that we are in a worse position than before. More people are getting tested meaning the numbers are greater. The numbers clearly show the unvaxxed are way more likely to be hosptialized than someone who is vaxxed. Which to my understanding was the reason for these shots.

You can't prevent a virus that adapts and mutates.
- DirtyDan

Which would mean the current vaccines do nothing.

Which would mean the current vaccines do nothing.
- ImThatGuy

Do nothing? no. They do make the sickness less severe.

This is why boosters are needed though. To keep up with the virus.

Heather Engel
@engelheather
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10m
On Tage Thompson, Adams says they got good news on his MRI. He would have been a game-time decision last night had the game happened. Says this break will be good because he's had some nagging issues .

I am vaxed.

If the vax does work and a majority are vaxed, and it does prevent me/you from getting sick then we should be able to move about as we please without mandates, no?

Currently I cant because apparently I am still in danger of getting sick, getting other sick.

Something doesnt add up.
- ImThatGuy

Goalposts change whenever Someone brings this fact up

First shots were supposed to work. J&J shot was supposed to be “safe” and now is being pulled for heart issues. Moderna now 4 times more likely to cause heart issues than Pfizer and it’s only a year in. Now we need a booster. Now they are saying a 4th shot will be necessary. Back to lockdowns and masks It will never end if people keep blindly obeying. It’s a virus. It’s gonna do what it does like every other virus in world history
- Fattony1187

I'm not saying I'm 100% sure on any of the vaccine statistics. I'm not a scientist.

It's kinda like a civil vs. Criminal lawsuit.

I'm in civil court:

and I'm <51% sure vaccines work

I'd probably convict in a criminal case as well, but I'd need to take a closer look at the facts.

A preponderance of the evidence suggests vaccines help people stay safe from major sickness or death. IMO.

They are definitely not 100% effective, that's for sure.

Why is/would the government or CDC give out false information? It's not an election year?

No they weren't. You've been reading the wrong shtuff my guy.

Boosters have been mentioned about for the last year at least.

And I totally disagree that we are in a worse position than before. More people are getting tested meaning the numbers are greater. The numbers clearly show the unvaxxed are way more likely to be hosptialized than someone who is vaxxed. Which to my understanding was the reason for these shots.

You can't prevent a virus that adapts and mutates.
- DirtyDan

K

I am vaxed.

If the vax does work and a majority are vaxed, and it does prevent me/you from getting sick then we should be able to move about as we please without mandates, no?

Currently I cant because apparently I am still in danger of getting sick, getting other sick.

Something doesnt add up.
- ImThatGuy

It’s no different then the flu shot. The flu shot only works for certain strains and it’s to prevent hospitalizations and deaths. You can still get the flu. Just try to keep yourself healthy and take vitamins and avoid large crowds.

South African study said current vaccines are only 30% effective at omicron. It’s time to decide if you want to protect yourself or not and go on with the world. 99% plus survival rate. If you have pre existing conditions be extra cautious. Healthy people should not be restricted at this point.
- Fattony1187

what does getting a free vaccine have to do with "going on with the world"?...and if you don't want to get the shot, get tested...and if you're hell bent against "the jab" but end up contracting the virus, be just as hell bent to beat it on your own, the rugged individualist way

Samantha Pell
@SamanthaJPell
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It's official: Capitals-Flyers tonight is PPD due to covid issues with WSH.
- Stripes77

one nhl game left

K
- Fattony1187

I'm not saying I'm 100% sure on any of the vaccine statistics. I'm not a scientist.

It's kinda like a civil vs. Criminal lawsuit.

I'm in civil court:

and I'm <51% sure vaccines work

I'd probably convict in a criminal case as well, but I'd need to take a closer look at the facts.

A preponderance of the evidence suggests vaccines help people stay safe from major sickness or death. IMO.

They are definitely not 100% effective, that's for sure.

Why is/would the government or CDC give out false information? It's not an election year?
- Boss34

Idk boss. Goalposts change every day. Whole point of all of this was to stop hospitals from being overwhelmed. Instead we are firing nurses. Like any other incident in history, when govt can seize power they are reluctant to give that up.

There is no reason we shouldn’t be able to go on with our lives at this point. Use precautions, stay home if you want and let people be