That play in OT last night was just unacceptable. Giroux wins an o-zone draw cleanly back to Sanheim and he just puts the puck up the boards back to San Jose. I just don't understand how an offensive defenseman can possibly make a play like that.
- jd250

Very easy to understand. He made a mistake. Simple as that.

Yes it does matter. Who said you have to play those 2 over him?

Yes please continue.
- hello it's me 2050

What other defenseman do you want to play if not those two? You want to play York who has been out with Covid and even before that was struggling to keep up against AHL competition? Or Zamula who has been equally struggling? I hate watching Yandle out there, he is an unmitigated disaster, but right now I don't see anyone coming in to make it better, not until Ellis gets back, if he even gets back.

Sandstrom was great. Looked very comfortable quickly. Jones was very good against the Kraken. The goaltending for the Flyers is tremendous. The team only got it together for maybe 30% in total here and there in each of these two games. Not going to cut it. I thought the Lindblom-Frost-TK line was the best forward group last night. So a good showing from the youth anyway.
- NC Flyers Fan

And yet when the Flyers had a 2 man advantage for 1:56 they were not on the ice until that last 30 seconds. Bad coaching IMO there.

What other defenseman do you want to play if not those two? You want to play York who has been out with Covid and even before that was struggling to keep up against AHL competition? Or Zamula who has been equally struggling? I hate watching Yandle out there, he is an unmitigated disaster, but right now I don't see anyone coming in to make it better, not until Ellis gets back, if he even gets back.
- jd250

I very easily give York or Zamula a 10 game stint then revaluate. They have upside. Willing to live with their mistakes. It is a very simple no brainer move imo.

you can also add Hogberg as well.

Went to bed after 2 periods last night, could not stand to try to stay awake and watch turnover, after turnover, after turnover. Finished watching the game this morning. Right now the Flyers are a bad team collecting points against other bad teams. I give the Flyers credit for trying hard and not giving up, but clearly they are not good, or even close to good. Case in point the Flyers had 2 PPs last night, the first PP yielded a short handed goal against and the 2nd 2 man-advantage generated 2 shots on goal and a lot of standing around. Giroux, for all the Flyers' records he is breaking, is a serious part of the problem right now; his skills have diminished considerably and he just does not want to shoot the puck. All in all, just another game that should demonstrate to Fletcher that he must be a major seller at the deadline.
- jd250

There is a lot of problems with this team but Giroux is not one of them. He is still close to a point per game player on a bad team.

Does it even matter at his point? So you sit Yandle and you play Seeler and Connauton instead?? Come on, there are bigger issues on this team right now. They have no foot speed, no skill, no structure ... shall I continue?
- jd250

Yes, continue. Yandle is part of that foot speed issue and he also not competitive on the puck. When Ellis comes back, I would absolutely play Connauton over Yandle.

I very easily give York or Zamula a 10 game stint then revaluate. They have upside. Willing to live with their mistakes. It is a very simple no brainer move imo.

you can also add Hogberg as well.
- hello it's me 2050

They will get that chance after the deadline or even sooner, because Yandle will definitely be traded by the deadline for a 6th or 7th round pick.

And yet when the Flyers had a 2 man advantage for 1:56 they were not on the ice until that last 30 seconds. Bad coaching IMO there.
- jd250

There was so many things wrong there that I just had to look away. I would have to watch it back to discuss. First though, was the Flyers passing around a wide perimeter. The Sharks only had 3 guys, why not shrink the box (triangle) and bring the play closer to the net. That doesn’t even address the speed and lack of shooting but to me it just looked so silly.

Yes, continue. Yandle is part of that foot speed issue and he also not competitive on the puck. When Ellis comes back, I would absolutely play Connauton over Yandle.
- MJL

Yes, as I said, when Ellis comes back then you have options and by then the iron man streak will be over so no excuse to keep Yandle in the lineup.

They will get that chance after the deadline or even sooner, because Yandle will definitely be traded by the deadline for a 6th or 7th round pick.
- jd250

I could be wrong but I don't see any contending team being interested in Yandle. He's cooked.

Yes, as I said, when Ellis comes back then you have options and by then the iron man streak will be over so no excuse to keep Yandle in the lineup.
- jd250

They have options right now.

They will get that chance after the deadline or even sooner, because Yandle will definitely be traded by the deadline for a 6th or 7th round pick.
- jd250

No he wont. No team will want him for the playoffs. Better options will be available.

Either way he does not belong in the lineup right now. Let alone waiting possibly 2+ months. That is clear as day.

There was so many things wrong there that I just had to look away. I would have to watch it back to discuss. First though, was the Flyers passing around a wide perimeter. The Sharks only had 3 guys, why not shrink the box (triangle) and bring the play closer to the net. That doesn’t even address the speed and lack of shooting but to me it just looked so silly.
- NC Flyers Fan

The Flyers in that sequence had trouble with their zone entries believe it or not, but even when they did have possession in the 0-zone, they just all stood around like big ugly orange pilons! No shots, no movement, no creativity, no nothing! I watched better PPs in the WJCs earlier this week. As I posted previously, good PPs mostly depend on the creativity and skill of the players on the ice, and the Flyers have pretty much have ZERO of that. We don't have Therrien to blame any longer!

I could be wrong but I don't see any contending team being interested in Yandle. He's cooked.
- MJL

I agree he's cooked, but I am sure some contending team will take him for depth, he will only cost them a few hundred thousand dollars at that point.

The Flyers in that sequence had trouble with their zone entries believe it or not, but even when they did have possession in the 0-zone, they just all stood around like big ugly orange pilons! No shots, no movement, no creativity, no nothing! I watched better PPs in the WJCs earlier this week. As I posted previously, good PPs mostly depend on the creativity and skill of the players on the ice, and the Flyers have pretty much have ZERO of that. We don't have Therrien to blame any longer!
- jd250

The Flyers have the #1 PP point producer in franchise history on the current team as well as one of the best PP point producers in the last decade in the NHL. So it is not accurate to say they have zero in that department. They have a stagnant PP which really has been poorly coached going back to last season.

There is a lot of problems with this team but Giroux is not one of them. He is still close to a point per game player on a bad team.
- MJL

I think if you take all emotion out of it, which is what a good GM does, there is no way the Flyers resign G. Honestly, I would already have talked to him about waiving his NTC.

I agree he's cooked, but I am sure some contending team will take him for depth, he will only cost them a few hundred thousand dollars at that point.
- jd250

His cap hit will be attractive but he can't play at ES anymore. His PP ability has fallen off a cliff. Is he going to play on the PP for a top contending team?

I think if you take all emotion out of it, which is what a good GM does, there is no way the Flyers resign G. Honestly, I would already have talked to him about waiving his NTC.
- jd250

That's a different conversation than saying Giroux is a problem on the team.

The Flyers have the #1 PP point producer in franchise history on the current team as well as one of the best PP point producers in the last decade in the NHL. So it is not accurate to say they have zero in that department. They have a stagnant PP which really has been poorly coached going back to last season.
- MJL

I understand G is breaking records and I see the same PP stats over the last decade as you do. But right now, today, G is not the same player. I don't care how many points he putting up, if you watch game after game, period after period, he is no longer a player opposing teams fear. However G is unfortunately the best this team has to offer which is one major reason they are where they are.

That's a different conversation than saying Giroux is a problem on the team.
- MJL

When I say problem I don't mean causing this team to lose or anything. I explained what I meant in a subsequent post.

The Flyers have the #1 PP point producer in franchise history on the current team as well as one of the best PP point producers in the last decade in the NHL. So it is not accurate to say they have zero in that department. They have a stagnant PP which really has been poorly coached going back to last season.
- MJL

I found myself thinking G needs to be more of a puck hog on the PP. A PP where no one shoots has virtually no chance of success.

The Flyers in that sequence had trouble with their zone entries believe it or not, but even when they did have possession in the 0-zone, they just all stood around like big ugly orange pilons! No shots, no movement, no creativity, no nothing! I watched better PPs in the WJCs earlier this week. As I posted previously, good PPs mostly depend on the creativity and skill of the players on the ice, and the Flyers have pretty much have ZERO of that. We don't have Therrien to blame any longer!
- jd250

Yes, I was talking about the orange pylon part. The passing around way outside the top. Worst shooting angles. No surprise nothing looked open.

His cap hit will be attractive but he can't play at ES anymore. His PP ability has fallen off a cliff. Is he going to play on the PP for a top contending team?
- MJL

Florida benched him last playoffs. He is a liability.

I think if you take all emotion out of it, which is what a good GM does, there is no way the Flyers resign G. Honestly, I would already have talked to him about waiving his NTC.
- jd250

Sadly CC is still the best offensive player on this team. Has nothing to do with emotion.

I let him walk as they need to turn the page.

I understand G is breaking records and I see the same PP stats over the last decade as you do. But right now, today, G is not the same player. I don't care how many points he putting up, if you watch game after game, period after period, he is no longer a player opposing teams fear. However G is unfortunately the best this team has to offer which is one major reason they are where they are.
- jd250

Giroux is not the Hart trophy player he has been in the past but he is still a highly skilled quality player in this league. Focusing on Giroux as the issue is mind boggling. Now if you want to say the Flyers need more high end talent around him, then we have something to agree on.