Hinostroza and Pysyk instead of Eakin and Justin Falk
- Hank Balling

his modest offense does not make up for atrocious defense

Pysyk has been an excellent add though.

And even Hayden is an XG% monster.

Edit. At the same time
- Anderdog

I think I know who your CO was

his modest offense does not make up for atrocious defense

Pysyk has been an excellent add though.

And even Hayden is an XG% monster.
- sbroads24

Atrocious defense is way strong. Cozens looks far worse both in chart form and in plus/minus. Vinnie is providing excellent depth scoring on a steal of a contract.

I think I know who your CO was
- Hank Balling

😆 😆 😆

Atrocious defense is way strong. Cozens looks far worse both in chart form and in plus/minus. Vinnie is providing excellent depth scoring on a steal of a contract.
- Hank Balling

With the analytics staff we are putting together, the Vinny’s of the world should be easy to find.

If they can get anything at the value at the deadline I’m all for it

Hinostroza and Pysyk instead of Eakin and Justin Falk
- Hank Balling

Also good to remember the opposite side, they haven't made any expensive mistakes.

Atrocious defense is way strong. Cozens looks far worse both in chart form and in plus/minus. Vinnie is providing excellent depth scoring on a steal of a contract.
- Hank Balling

Cozens has completely different responsibilities and is a 20 year old. I don’t understand the comparison

Vinnie has scored above expected, 4% over his career shooting %. So that will regress, and he’s been directly responsible for a bunch of goals against from simply not back checking.

There’s a reason he bounces around the league and the idea (I’m not sure it was you, if it wasn’t I’m sorry) that he’s getting a 2nd at the deadline is absurd

Also good to remember the opposite side, they haven't made any expensive mistakes.
- Lunaion

That’s incredibly easy to do when you have expectations of losing instead of winning

With the analytics staff we are putting together, the Vinny’s of the world should be easy to find.

If they can get anything at the value at the deadline I’m all for it
- Pegullaville

He is definitely worth a 3rd imo

I haven't perused the list of potential TDL targets so it's definitely possible he's devalued due to lack of name recognition but he would be a strong add for a contender

He is definitely worth a 3rd imo

I haven't perused the list of potential TDL targets so it's definitely possible he's devalued due to lack of name recognition but he would be a strong add for a contender
- Hank Balling

Friendly bet - he gets a 5th through nothing

No playoff team has Vinnie Hinostroza in their top 6 and absolutely no playoff team wants a 5’9 perimeter player in their bottom 6.

He’s a guy who will always be on a bad team

Cozens has completely different responsibilities and is a 20 year old. I don’t understand the comparison

Vinnie has scored above expected, 4% over his career shooting %. So that will regress, and he’s been directly responsible for a bunch of goals against from simply not back checking.

There’s a reason he bounces around the league and the idea (I’m not sure it was you, if it wasn’t I’m sorry) that he’s getting a 2nd at the deadline is absurd
- sbroads24

They played together for large portions of the season and Hinostroza was seen as a person who was holding Cozens back. I don't think that was true

They played together for large portions of the season and Hinostroza was seen as a person who was holding Cozens back. I don't think that was true
- Hank Balling

You don’t think Cozens needed better linemates this year?

That’s…interesting

Friendly bet - he gets a 5th through nothing

No playoff team has Vinnie Hinostroza in their top 6 and absolutely no playoff team wants a 5’9 perimeter player in their bottom 6.

He’s a guy who will always be on a bad team
- sbroads24

I'll take the bet. 4,500 internet points. I only have 1800 so you'll have to spot me the balance. I'm good for it, I swear.

Idk, to me, Hinostroza is what I hoped Pouliot would be 1400 years ago. I like his tenacity

They played together for large portions of the season and Hinostroza was seen as a person who was holding Cozens back. I don't think that was true
- Hank Balling

Both Cozens and Thompson have a long way to come defensively.

What they are both bringing offensively is good to see though.

I'll take the bet. 4,500 internet points. I only have 1800 so you'll have to spot me the balance. I'm good for it, I swear.

Idk, to me, Hinostroza is what I hoped Pouliot would be 1400 years ago. I like his tenacity
- Hank Balling

I just don’t think he fits what any playoff team would want.

just haven’t liked his game outside of some flash plays here or there.

I think he’s a a fine 12-13 forward

That’s incredibly easy to do when you have expectations of losing instead of winning
- sbroads24

They were a cap team at this point a year ago. KA did immense damage his first year.

Both Cozens and Thompson have a long way to come defensively.

What they are both bringing offensively is good to see though.
- Pegullaville

I was worried about Cozens early in the year when he hadn't scored in however many games going back to last year but he turned it on in a big way. He'll be fine.

And like broads said, he's 20 so he's not going to be a Selke player out of the gate. Frankly he shouldn't be. Let him get some offensive confidence first. Experience will teach him the D game

I just don’t think he fits what any playoff team would want.

just haven’t liked his game outside of some flash plays here or there.

I think he’s a a fine 12-13 forward
- sbroads24

You're forgetting about covid, though. He's cheap-ish and you can stash him on the taxi squad and have a warm body for when someone invariably tests positive during the playoffs.

Does that mean he's worth a third? I have no idea, probably not, but there is some value in having a cheap guy who's not going to kill you stashed away.

You're forgetting about covid, though. He's cheap-ish and you can stash him on the taxi squad and have a warm body for when someone invariably tests positive during the playoffs.

Does that mean he's worth a third? I have no idea, probably not, but there is some value in having a cheap guy who's not going to kill you stashed away.
- Wetbandit1

Fair point about depth, but he'd have to clear waivers to go on a taxi squad.

Fair point about depth, but he'd have to clear waivers to go on a taxi squad.
- Lunaion

I thought it was just treated as the minors for celery purposes, which in his case makes no difference, I didn't realize they need to pass through waivers. That's dumb.

Thank you, your humor is so appreciated.
- TC4145

🤝
Glad you didnt take it seriously....

his modest offense does not make up for atrocious defense

Pysyk has been an excellent add though.

And even Hayden is an XG% monster.
- sbroads24

I could see prysk re sign.

Takes a certain kid of veteran, willing to play 1/2 the games.

Not sure if there's room for him full time?

Miller and butcher gone most likely.

I thought it was just treated as the minors for celery purposes, which in his case makes no difference, I didn't realize they need to pass through waivers. That's dumb.
- Wetbandit1

Imagine the abuse, if it wasn't treated that way.

Also good to remember the opposite side, they haven't made any expensive mistakes.
- Lunaion

How are olofsson's analytics?

Does this hire bode well for an extension?

Nice to see your guy tokarski is healthy and almost ready. ☝️

I could see prysk re sign.

Takes a certain kid of veteran, willing to play 1/2 the games.

Not sure if there's room for him full time?

Miller and butcher gone most likely.
- Boss34

Didn't someone say he wanted to stay beyond this year?