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neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 4 @ 10:43 PM ET
Hmm. Maybe, just maybe, it has to do with the amount of D zone starts he gets. Maybe the fact he kills penalties as well.
- Load Management

He doesnt have more dzone time than OEL or Hughes, not sure if that holds up. Hes having his best year here, theres an argument to be made its cause he gets to play with oel. Who never gets much love on here.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 4 @ 10:58 PM ET
Thanks Carol
Ball Bag
Seattle Kraken
Location: WA
Joined: 01.30.2021

Jan 4 @ 11:11 PM ET
The Champs!
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Jan 4 @ 11:11 PM ET
He doesnt have more dzone time than OEL or Hughes, not sure if that holds up. Hes having his best year here, theres an argument to be made its cause he gets to play with oel. Who never gets much love on here.
- neem55


Well, you' re not quite there Hughes has 37.4% and Myers has 51.7%. OEL has 52% which makes sense since he's partnered with Myers in a shutdown pairing.

Myers also has more points and a better plus minus than OEL and makes far less.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 4 @ 11:12 PM ET
21. Vancouver’s Oliver Ekman-Larsson is the only player to be on-ice for more than 500 minutes at 5v5 and fewer than 10 goals against (9).

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Ball Bag
Seattle Kraken
Location: WA
Joined: 01.30.2021

Jan 4 @ 11:13 PM ET
21. Vancouver’s Oliver Ekman-Larsson is the only player to be on-ice for more than 500 minutes at 5v5 and fewer than 10 goals against (9).

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- VANTEL

Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jan 4 @ 11:42 PM ET
21. Vancouver’s Oliver Ekman-Larsson is the only player to be on-ice for more than 500 minutes at 5v5 and fewer than 10 goals against (9).

32 Thoughts

- VANTEL


Myers doing an excellent job of propping him up.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 4 @ 11:46 PM ET
21. Vancouver’s Oliver Ekman-Larsson is the only player to be on-ice for more than 500 minutes at 5v5 and fewer than 10 goals against (9).

32 Thoughts

- VANTEL

Hes being carried by Myers, apparently. Or no wait...
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 4 @ 11:47 PM ET
Myers doing an excellent job of propping him up.
- Reubenkincade

Beat me to it rooby
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 4 @ 11:49 PM ET
21. Vancouver’s Oliver Ekman-Larsson is the only player to be on-ice for more than 500 minutes at 5v5 and fewer than 10 goals against (9).

32 Thoughts

- VANTEL

Wow amazing
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 4 @ 11:51 PM ET
Riddle me this: Myers was here last few years and gargled balls. OEL comes in and now Myers is propping him up?! The logic is stunning.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 4 @ 11:52 PM ET
Wow amazing
- CanuckDon

Especially on a team as bad as we were for our first 25
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 4 @ 11:54 PM ET
Canucks have given up 15 goals in the last 9 games. I am fine with the back end and over all play.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 4 @ 11:57 PM ET
quote=VANTEL]Canucks have given up 15 goals in the last 9 games. I am fine with the back end and over all play.
Its clearly been an ephasis for BB, much needed
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 4 @ 11:59 PM ET
My friend introduced me to the fact that theres a country song called "my trucks bigger tham your truck". I hate country, pretty sure that song was recorded in Alberta though.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 5 @ 12:04 AM ET
Riddle me this: Myers was here last few years and gargled balls. OEL comes in and now Myers is propping him up?! The logic is stunning.
- neem55

I think you're just having a hard time believing that a dman of Myers' age can change up his game, but that's exactly what's happened. I don't think he's carried OEL though, but he's been the better of the two in my opinion, but like I said, I like judging dmen based on how they defend off of the rush and how well they create rush chances with zone exits and breakout passes, there's where Myers has been good. His in-zone defensive play is still inconsistent, I can agree with you there.

Last year Myers rated very low in allowing opposing forwards to just walk across the blueline with the puck which was a much bigger issue since it's been shown that allowing controlled zone entries leads to goals. Forcing dump-ins or even turnovers is how you win games, especially with the game being so speed-based these days. Your goalie has a better chance at saving a shot generated from the cycle compared to off the rush.

I think I read somewhere that something like 55-60% of goals are scored within the first 7 seconds of zone time. Basically goalies are much better against the cycle than they are against the rush
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 5 @ 12:07 AM ET
I think you're just having a hard time believing that a dman of Myers' age can change up his game, but that's exactly what's happened. I don't think he's carried OEL though, but he's been the better of the two in my opinion, but like I said, I like judging dmen based on how they defend off of the rush and how well they create rush chances with zone exits and breakout passes, there's where Myers has been good. His in-zone defensive play is still inconsistent, I can agree with you there.

Last year Myers rated very low in allowing opposing forwards to just walk across the blueline with the puck which was a much bigger issue since it's been shown that allowing controlled zone entries leads to goals. Forcing dump-ins or even turnovers is how you win games, especially with the game being so speed-based these days. Your goalie has a better chance at saving a shot generated from the cycle compared to off the rush.

I think I read somewhere that something like 55-60% of goals are scored within the first 7 seconds of zone time. Basically goalies are much better against the cycle than they are against the rush

- Nucker101

I think hes benefitting from playing with a more solid partner that covers up his weak points. Nothing wrong with that, that what you wants pairs to do. Just pointing out he hasnt played this well until OEL and its worth noting.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 5 @ 12:07 AM ET
Riddle me this: Myers was here last few years and gargled balls. OEL comes in and now Myers is propping him up?! The logic is stunning.
- neem55

I suspect OEL is propping up Myers but Myers has also been on a really good stretch. And it’s been going on for 10 games
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 5 @ 12:13 AM ET
I suspect OEL is propping up Myers but Myers has also been on a really good stretch. And it’s been going on for 10 games
- CanuckDon

I agree he has been really good under BB. Except that last game, he was brutal against the Kraken
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jan 5 @ 12:25 AM ET
I suspect OEL is propping up Myers but Myers has also been on a really good stretch. And it’s been going on for 10 games
- CanuckDon


Both been good. It doesn't have to be one or the other propping. They have chemistry.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jan 5 @ 12:26 AM ET
I agree he has been really good under BB. Except that last game, he was brutal against the Kraken
- neem55


tRaDe mYeRs


Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 5 @ 12:50 AM ET
Both been good. It doesn't have to be one or the other propping. They have chemistry.
- boonerbuck

carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jan 5 @ 1:05 AM ET
Riddle me this: Myers was here last few years and gargled balls. OEL comes in and now Myers is propping him up?! The logic is stunning.
- neem55

But did he gargle Ball Bag?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 5 @ 1:07 AM ET
That Makar goal...wow
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Jan 5 @ 1:32 AM ET
Both been good. It doesn't have to be one or the other propping. They have chemistry.
- boonerbuck

I remember this one coach I had, me and my d partner I had for twenty games gave up 5 goals five on five and scored a ton in 20 games and he came into the room and said time to split up the twin towers lol, we both looked at each other in shock, the other pairings were getting eaten alive so he wanted to even it out, but frank man that was fun we had some serious chemistry.
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