That's just an absolute cluster (frank) of a situation. Someone will be sitting out till the first day of the playoffs to be cap compliant.
- manvanfan

Their window is NOW!

Their window is NOW!
- K-man25

They saw Tampa Bay be 16M over the cap, thought they would try it.

Next CBA it should say that 10% over the cap includes the season for LTIR except if a player is going to not play again that season including playoffs, then a team can use that full cap hit for LTIR.

Farhan Lalji
@FarhanLaljiTSN
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“Rutherford has talked to some candidates (almost every day) over the past three weeks… He will talk to several candidates overall before cutting down to a short list and moving to the next phase of interviews… The Canucks hope to have a GM in place by February.”

Petey for chycrun or dahlin
- Jkuzzi

In a heartbeat for Dahlin. Buffalo wont do that though. If we got him on our D with Huggy, OEL and Demko in net...Now thats how you build a team from the goal out.

- LordHumungous

You seriously would not do Dahlin for Petey? A smooth skating, big, skilled 1st OA dman for a player that is highly skilled and put up 66 points twice 3 seasons ago, can't stay healthy, and has questionable other attributes, including staying on his skates. I would roll those dice 10 times out of 10.
Think Pronger for Shanahan. Sure Dahlin is not Pronger, but Petey is definitely not even close Shanny.

https://twitter.com/HockeyDaily365/status/1478161867541471235

This is just a comedy of errors.
What is Koskinen doing.

McDavid slow, weak on forecheck.

Nurse just out for a casual skate, Bouchard was doing who knows what, Hyman puck watching.

After that maybe Tippett should be fired.
- manvanfan

Could be a Travis Green situation where the players are playing to get Tippett fired.

You seriously would not do Dahlin for Petey? A smooth skating, big, skilled 1st OA dman for a player that is highly skilled and put up 66 points twice 3 seasons ago, can't stay healthy, and has questionable other attributes, including staying on his skates. I would roll those dice 10 times out of 10.
Think Pronger for Shanahan. Sure Dahlin is not Pronger, but Petey is definitely not even close Shanny.
- carsonagenic

Nope. If I thought Dahlin was on track to be a Hedman type Dman absolutely move Petey for him. But 40 point dmen are a dime/dozen in the league moving Petey for that makes zero sense. May as well have kept Edler lol I'd be more inclined on Chycychrun to be honest but even that is a hard no. If it was Chychrun ++ I'd look at it. Chychrun's trending way better than Dahlin was before ARZ hit the skids this year. Kid just needs a fresh start.

Petey is having a Hughes type off year IMO. Give him the benefit of the doubt to bounce back.

Nope. If I thought Dahlin was on track to be a Hedman type Dman absolutely move Petey for him. But 40 point dmen are a dime/dozen in the league moving Petey for that makes zero sense. May as well have kept Edler lol I'd be more inclined on Chycychrun to be honest but even that is a hard no. If it was Chychrun ++ I'd look at it. Chychrun's trending way better than Dahlin was before ARZ hit the skids this year. Kid just needs a fresh start.

Petey is having a Hughes type off year IMO. Give him the benefit of the doubt to bounce back.
- LordHumungous

I have to say, I think you are very out to lunch on this one. Dahlin has as many points as Chychrun in 86 less games. Buffalo and Arizona have been equally poop for the past couple years.

Dahlin is 2 years younger.

I don't think trading Petey for a Dman really makes sense right now for the club. Canucks have enough trouble scoring, I doubt bringing in a defensemen is going to help.

I have to say, I think you are very out to lunch on this one. Dahlin has as many points as Chychrun in 86 less games. Buffalo and Arizona have been equally poop for the past couple years.

Dahlin is 2 years younger.

I don't think trading Petey for a Dman really makes sense right now for the club. Canucks have enough trouble scoring, I doubt bringing in a defensemen is going to help.
- manvanfan

Chychruns PPG pace was insane in 2020-21 in 56 games. Haven't seen that from Dahlin as of yet. However Dahlin is trending up a bit better this year.

Nope. If I thought Dahlin was on track to be a Hedman type Dman absolutely move Petey for him. But 40 point dmen are a dime/dozen in the league moving Petey for that makes zero sense. May as well have kept Edler lol I'd be more inclined on Chycychrun to be honest but even that is a hard no. If it was Chychrun ++ I'd look at it. Chychrun's trending way better than Dahlin was before ARZ hit the skids this year. Kid just needs a fresh start.

Petey is having a Hughes type off year IMO. Give him the benefit of the doubt to bounce back.
- LordHumungous

🛀 🧂

Chychruns PPG pace was insane in 2020-21 in 56 games. Haven't seen that from Dahlin as of yet. However Dahlin is trending up a bit better this year.
- LordHumungous

Chychrun had 26 points in 63 games in his 21 year old season.
Dahlin has 21 points in 33 games in his 21 year old season.

Dahlin is trending ahead of Chychrun.

Can’t win every game. Florida gave the Flames a lesson last night.
I will always be hopeful
- K-man25

I like how there is an excuse for everything Oilers, and I mean major (frank)ing knob gobbling excuses, but Calgary who is 5 times better is a tire fire.

Nope. If I thought Dahlin was on track to be a Hedman type Dman absolutely move Petey for him. But 40 point dmen are a dime/dozen in the league moving Petey for that makes zero sense. May as well have kept Edler lol I'd be more inclined on Chycychrun to be honest but even that is a hard no. If it was Chychrun ++ I'd look at it. Chychrun's trending way better than Dahlin was before ARZ hit the skids this year. Kid just needs a fresh start.

Petey is having a Hughes type off year IMO. Give him the benefit of the doubt to bounce back.
- LordHumungous

Dahlin is on pace for about 55 points on...Buffalo
And as far as Petey, don't you need to have a great season to bounce back to? His BEST is 66 points! If he "bounces" back to that, keep on bouncing to the airport.

🛀 🧂
- CanuckDon

He thinks the Oliers are a good team just going through a little slump.

I have to say, I think you are very out to lunch on this one. Dahlin has as many points as Chychrun in 86 less games. Buffalo and Arizona have been equally poop for the past couple years.

Dahlin is 2 years younger.

I don't think trading Petey for a Dman really makes sense right now for the club. Canucks have enough trouble scoring, I doubt bringing in a defensemen is going to help.
- manvanfan

I disagree on trading for Dman. You can never have too many top dmen. I want the team to be built from the goalie out, as does Rutherford it seems as well. You create a team this way and add the forwards after this base is established, as forwards usually take less time to mature and develop. Like building a football team, don't draft a WR when you don't have a O line. With a top defensive squad you can coach and lock it down and play boring Lemaire style if you must to win. But a forward based team without D and goaltending?...well Oilers.

Hang in there Lordy!

Dahlin is on pace for about 55 points on...Buffalo
And as far as Petey, don't you need to have a great season to bounce back to? His BEST is 66 points! If he "bounces" back to that, keep on bouncing to the airport.
- carsonagenic

You know that Miller never broke 66 points until he was 26 years old?

Canucks Army making a decent argument on why you don't trade Petey now. Keeping a realistic return in mind of course...

https://canucksarmy.com/2...-moving-elias-pettersson/

They use the same examples I did a few days ago. The Sedins and Miller.

I have to say, I think you are very out to lunch on this one. Dahlin has as many points as Chychrun in 86 less games. Buffalo and Arizona have been equally poop for the past couple years.

Dahlin is 2 years younger.

I don't think trading Petey for a Dman really makes sense right now for the club. Canucks have enough trouble scoring, I doubt bringing in a defensemen is going to help.
- manvanfan

Id have to agree. Lots of ceiling left with Dahlin, showed flashes of what he could be. I dont think petey for anything while his value has gone down makes any sense. I think JR wont do as much or as big of a move as people are hoping at the TDL.

You know that Miller never broke 66 points until he was 26 years old?
- manvanfan

Took 5 seasons for former Hart winner Henrik Sedin to break 66 points. A player that struggled to stay on his feet and took the same brainless flak from the fan base as Petey.

Tommi Seppälä
@TommiSeppala
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Mikko Koskinen on critics from Tippett, media: ”It’s not nice being thrown under the bus. I have to be better but at the same time we scored 7 goals in my last 6 losses. I can’t score goals.”

You know that Miller never broke 66 points until he was 26 years old?
- manvanfan

Yes, but he hit, played solid D, and said (frank) a lot.

I disagree on trading for Dman. You can never have too many top dmen. I want the team to be built from the goalie out, as does Rutherford it seems as well. You create a team this way and add the forwards after this base is established, as forwards usually take less time to mature and develop. Like building a football team, don't draft a WR when you don't have a O line. With a top defensive squad you can coach and lock it down and play boring Lemaire style if you must to win. But a forward based team without D and goaltending?...well Oilers.
- carsonagenic

You and I have clearly different ideas of top D then because yes you can have too many top Dmen. There are only so many minutes in a game.

Not to mention by the time you acquire all these top D, you will be paying for most of them and the team starts to look like San Jose.

Carolina traded away Faulk and hasn't lost a step. Nashville looks better than ever after trading Ellis. STL still one of the best teams after losing Pietro.

The Oilers are paying the same amount as Carolina for defence.

Football and hockey are very different sports.

Took 5 seasons for former Hart winner Henrik Sedin to break 66 points. A player that struggled to stay on his feet and took the same brainless flak from the fan base as Petey.
- boonerbuck

It's not brainless flak. Its watching games and making assessments on what I see and value as a player, especially making big dollar cap hits.
Say Brainless, don't you know where coconut come from?
And speculating about getting a top tier dman for him isn't just giving him away for magic beans.

It's not brainless flak. Its watching games and making assessments on what I see and value as a player, especially making big dollar cap hits.
Say Brainless, don't you know where coconut come from?
And speculating about getting a top tier dman for him is just giving him away for magic beans.
- carsonagenic

I could find lots of brainless comments on why the Canucks need to trade him. The world doesn't center around your point of view.