Answering the question is the exact definition of a dodge? It seems as though you can't stick to the content. The context of the conversation was if that goal was a smoking gun per se that points out that the Flyers don't have enough skill and speed. You made the play out to be some miraculous goal rather than a badly played one on one by a defenseman. If you would actually spend some time, you can find plenty of highlights of Flyers scoring goals on dekes at full speed. For you to suggest that I don't site specifics or offer nothing in terms of content is delusional. You and I have had numerous conversations in depth on topics.

- MJL

That goal by Terry was just an example of the type of goal the Flyers don't score. Sure we have ONE great goal by Farabee in 33 games this season to hang our hat on, but overall the point I was trying to make was simply the Flyers don't have the speed and skill in their lineup (even when completely healthy) to truly contend for a cup. Someone else posted today the goal by Makar last night, that is yet another example. We don't have those types of players, that is FACT, not opinion!

Someone else posted today maybe its not the drafting but the development that's the problem. My answer to that is though its true at the time of the draft the Flyers did receive good draft grades, it is more about the type of player they were drafting versus the quality of player. Sure they drafted some nice players with some skill, but until recently it was not a priority to draft potential elite speed and skill. I think the drafting of Tuomaala and Foerster indicate a change in philosophy, whether either work out or not. That is why I sincerely hope the Flyers can sell aggressively, get into the top 5 and get a player like Lucas Raymond who is close to a point per game player for Detroit at just 19 years old. He would be tied for the team lead in scoring if he played for the Flyers!

Enjoy your lockdowns. Idk where you all live but almost everyone I know lives their life pretty close to normal and it’s fine. People have had covid and gotten over it. Have some compromised people that we take precautions with but this has gone on way too long and the fear mongering is much more frightening than the virus by a landslide. Keep looking at those numbers man.
- ClaudeFather

No one is scared of COVID, the point of the precautions is to stop the spread and protect the population who cant fight it off. If the virus doesnt spread, it also cant mutate which could potentially mutate to be more dangerous. It is also to keep Hospitals from being overrun. Covid is extremely contagious and spreads fast. The people who require hospitalization from covid will be tying up hospital resources that that others need.

I went to the local bikini bar out here in Michigan yesterday and I got my news from the kind bikini bartender yesterday on how we should approach Covid and the vaccine. Basically when she came inside from her Cigarette break, I was told her body was the healthiest it’s ever been and we don’t need something so dangerous in our bodies, especially if we don’t know what’s in it….her argument was flawless.
- SuperSchennBros

the tool box or the blue oyster?

Chuck made moves to improve this team. I guess he should have had a crystal ball to show TK, Provy, Oskar and a bunch of others, aren't as good as we originally thought. Couple that with some key injuries and this is what you get

When are you going to hold the players accountable for their pi$$ poor play, and not blame it all on management because you miss Ronnie?
- bradster

Not only that, when can we just come to grips with the fact that TK is just another player, and Provey is good, but not great, and Oscar is really nothing more than yet another 4th liner? There is a severe lack of talent on this team, plain and simple.

If you compare NHL teams in terms of Goals For (all strengths) versus XGF, you will see the Flyers have scored 86 goals and they were expected to score about 87 goals, so basically they score goals they are expected to score. BTW the Flyers are 24th in the league in goals for. Now look at any top 10 team in goals for, which include Anaheim, Washington, Colorado, Minnesota and the Oilers, they all score many more goals than they are expected to. Example Colorado has 122 GF, but only an XGF of 86. Why is this? Because they have the skill in their lineup to do it!! The Flyers don't! Our eyes tell us this, and the analytics back it up!

No one is scared of COVID, the point of the precautions is to stop the spread and protect the population who cant fight it off. If the virus doesnt spread, it also cant mutate which could potentially mutate to be more dangerous. It is also to keep Hospitals from being overrun. Covid is extremely contagious and spreads fast. The people who require hospitalization from covid will be tying up hospital resources that that others need.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

What should we do to stop the spread? A two week shutdown maybe haha. Hospitals have had staffing issues long before Covid, it’s just emphasizing it

That goal by Terry was just an example of the type of goal the Flyers don't score. Sure we have ONE great goal by Farabee in 33 games this season to hang our hat on, but overall the point I was trying to make was simply the Flyers don't have the speed and skill in their lineup (even when completely healthy) to truly contend for a cup. Someone else posted today the goal by Makar last night, that is yet another example. We don't have those types of players, that is FACT, not opinion!

Someone else posted today maybe its not the drafting but the development that's the problem. My answer to that is though its true at the time of the draft the Flyers did receive good draft grades, it is more about the type of player they were drafting versus the quality of player. Sure they drafted some nice players with some skill, but until recently it was not a priority to draft potential elite speed and skill. I think the drafting of Tuomaala and Foerster indicate a change in philosophy, whether either work out or not. That is why I sincerely hope the Flyers can sell aggressively, get into the top 5 and get a player like Lucas Raymond who is close to a point per game player for Detroit at just 19 years old. He would be tied for the team lead in scoring if he played for the Flyers!
- jd250

There's more than one.


You still have the pipe dream that the Flyers are going to trade their way into the top 5.
Did it really take the Terry goal for you to figure out that the Flyers aren't a contender? Even after making all the great moves that the GM did this past off season? Does Anaheim have the players to be a contender?

Here is the bottom line. You mischaracterized the goal as some great skill rush that was the smoking gun that pointed out the Flyers issues. Rather than what it actually was. A poorly played one on one by a defenseman and a nice deke.

I went to the local bikini bar out here in Michigan yesterday and I got my news from the kind bikini bartender yesterday on how we should approach Covid and the vaccine. Basically when she came inside from her Cigarette break, I was told her body was the healthiest it’s ever been and we don’t need something so dangerous in our bodies, especially if we don’t know what’s in it….her argument was flawless.
- SuperSchennBros

Hard to argue with that, um, logic

No one is scared of COVID, the point of the precautions is to stop the spread and protect the population who cant fight it off. If the virus doesnt spread, it also cant mutate which could potentially mutate to be more dangerous. It is also to keep Hospitals from being overrun. Covid is extremely contagious and spreads fast. The people who require hospitalization from covid will be tying up hospital resources that that others need.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Wow. So many blue states shut schools and their economies down but were not scared? Didn't LGB just get up and predict death for the unvaxxed from covid? I hate to see what these folks would do if they were scared.

There's more than one.


You still have the pipe dream that the Flyers are going to trade their way into the top 5.
Did it really take the Terry goal for you to figure out that the Flyers aren't a contender? Even after making all the great moves that the GM did this past off season? Does Anaheim have the players to be a contender?

Here is the bottom line. You mischaracterized the goal as some great skill rush that was the smoking gun that pointed out the Flyers issues. Rather than what it actually was. A poorly played one on one by a defenseman and a nice deke.
- MJL

That is your opinion. In my opinion is was the type of goal that good young, fast and skilled players make in this league and that slow footed teams like the Flyers can't defend. Is Anaheim a contender? Not today, but they are on the right track. Are the Flyers on the right track? Are they drafting and developing players like Terry and Drysdale? When they had the chance to draft Makar, they drafted size at center instead, because their heads were still in the 90s!

There's more than one.


You still have the pipe dream that the Flyers are going to trade their way into the top 5.
Did it really take the Terry goal for you to figure out that the Flyers aren't a contender? Even after making all the great moves that the GM did this past off season? Does Anaheim have the players to be a contender?

Here is the bottom line. You mischaracterized the goal as some great skill rush that was the smoking gun that pointed out the Flyers issues. Rather than what it actually was. A poorly played one on one by a defenseman and a nice deke.
- MJL

It was a pretty basic deke as well. Almost didn’t finish.

Wow. So many blue states shut schools and their economies down but were not scared? Didn't LGB just get up and predict death for the unvaxxed from covid? I hate to see what these folks would do if they were scared.
- iamscore2day

They weren’t scared tho!

Not only that, when can we just come to grips with the fact that TK is just another player, and Provey is good, but not great, and Oscar is really nothing more than yet another 4th liner? There is a severe lack of talent on this team, plain and simple.

If you compare NHL teams in terms of Goals For (all strengths) versus XGF, you will see the Flyers have scored 86 goals and they were expected to score about 87 goals, so basically they score goals they are expected to score. BTW the Flyers are 24th in the league in goals for. Now look at any top 10 team in goals for, which include Anaheim, Washington, Colorado, Minnesota and the Oilers, they all score many more goals than they are expected to. Example Colorado has 122 GF, but only an XGF of 86. Why is this? Because they have the skill in their lineup to do it!! The Flyers don't! Our eyes tell us this, and the analytics back it up!
- jd250

Do you think the NY Rangers have the speed and skill to be a contender?

They weren’t scared tho!
- ClaudeFather

Nobody is scared of Covid. Unbelievable.

Not only that, when can we just come to grips with the fact that TK is just another player, and Provey is good, but not great, and Oscar is really nothing more than yet another 4th liner? There is a severe lack of talent on this team, plain and simple.

If you compare NHL teams in terms of Goals For (all strengths) versus XGF, you will see the Flyers have scored 86 goals and they were expected to score about 87 goals, so basically they score goals they are expected to score. BTW the Flyers are 24th in the league in goals for. Now look at any top 10 team in goals for, which include Anaheim, Washington, Colorado, Minnesota and the Oilers, they all score many more goals than they are expected to. Example Colorado has 122 GF, but only an XGF of 86. Why is this? Because they have the skill in their lineup to do it!! The Flyers don't! Our eyes tell us this, and the analytics back it up!
- jd250

How is expected GF established? I assume by team. Are you saying the AVS and Flyers have the same expected GF? I find that hard to believe. Or is XGF a leaguewide average?

What should we do to stop the spread? A two week shutdown maybe haha. Hospitals have had staffing issues long before Covid, it’s just emphasizing it
- ClaudeFather

1) Shutdown only works if people abide which they havent. The virus needs people to stay alive. If people listened and stayed home, this would have been over in a month tops because it cant spread if people are isolated.

2) It isnt just staffing. Hospitals only have so many rooms and beds. Every Covid admission can mean a canceled surgery, an overworked nurse or doctor, or a new space that has to be found. Hospitals in the U.S were pretty much at capacity before covid. And majority of the hospitalizations are from unvaccinated people.

That is your opinion. In my opinion is was the type of goal that good young, fast and skilled players make in this league and that slow footed teams like the Flyers can't defend. Is Anaheim a contender? Not today, but they are on the right track. Are the Flyers on the right track? Are they drafting and developing players like Terry and Drysdale? When they had the chance to draft Makar, they drafted size at center instead, because their heads were still in the 90s!
- jd250

Sanheim was the defender on the play. He is not a slow footed player and he was not beaten because of his lack of speed. With each post you dig a deeper hole.
Drafting Patrick had nothing to do with having their heads in the 90's. Another ridiculous statement. You're getting emotional and it's showing.

1) Shutdown only works if people abide which they havent. The virus needs people to stay alive. If people listened and stayed home, this would have been over in a month tops because it cant spread if people are isolated.

2) It isnt just staffing. Hospitals only have so many rooms and beds. Every Covid admission can mean a canceled surgery, an overworked nurse or doctor, or a new space that has to be found. Hospitals in the U.S were pretty much at capacity before covid. And majority of the hospitalizations are from unvaccinated people.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Please stop posting about Covid. Two reasons. It's not appropriate for HB. Most importantly, you don't know what you're talking about. Routinely. Starting with nobody is afraid of Covid.

No one is scared of COVID, the point of the precautions is to stop the spread and protect the population who cant fight it off. If the virus doesnt spread, it also cant mutate which could potentially mutate to be more dangerous. It is also to keep Hospitals from being overrun. Covid is extremely contagious and spreads fast. The people who require hospitalization from covid will be tying up hospital resources that that others need.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

So to you some people are just more important than other people? Or some people deserve treatment while others should just die? Also I suggest you read up on what a virus is and how it mutates, because what you state here is grossly incorrect. In movies virus's can mutate and become more dangerous, but in reality its the exact opposite.

What should we do to stop the spread? A two week shutdown maybe haha. Hospitals have had staffing issues long before Covid, it’s just emphasizing it
- ClaudeFather

1. Get vaccinated, and get your boosters in time. This will lower the odds of transmission substantially, the odds of severe disease even more so.

2. Understand that our life has changed forever. It is possible that we will have to implement a rolling sequence of lockdowns when situations warrant, but these will likely decrease in frequency as time goes on.

3. Accept that the face masks are here to stay, and will likely be ubiquitous as it is in East Asia.

4. Stop whining.

So to you some people are just more important than other people? Or some people deserve treatment while others should just die? Also I suggest you read up on what a virus is and how it mutates, because what you state here is grossly incorrect. In movies virus's can mutate and become more dangerous, but in reality its the exact opposite.
- jd250

How about NHL players we don't want to play anymore. Are they more or less important than other people?

So to you some people are just more important than other people? Or some people deserve treatment while others should just die? Also I suggest you read up on what a virus is and how it mutates, because what you state here is grossly incorrect. In movies virus's can mutate and become more dangerous, but in reality its the exact opposite.
- jd250

Where did he say that some people are more important than others? Hospitals are again reaching chaotic proportions, and a huge majority of the people there are un-vaccinated.

Viruses can mutate to more deadly strains. The Delta variant was a far more deadly variant of the original Alpha and Beta. What rock do you live under?

So to you some people are just more important than other people? Or some people deserve treatment while others should just die? Also I suggest you read up on what a virus is and how it mutates, because what you state here is grossly incorrect. In movies virus's can mutate and become more dangerous, but in reality its the exact opposite.
- jd250

Not what I am saying at all. Im saying that some COVID related hospitalizations are preventable. For instanced a vaccinated person should have a better chance at fighting the virus than someone not vaccinated. How many people in the hospital that are unvaccinated would still be there if vaccinated? In Canada from Nov 2020 to Dec 2021 39,967 people out of 49,727 people hospitalized were unvaccinated. Thats 80%.

1) Shutdown only works if people abide which they havent. The virus needs people to stay alive. If people listened and stayed home, this would have been over in a month tops because it cant spread if people are isolated.

2) It isnt just staffing. Hospitals only have so many rooms and beds. Every Covid admission can mean a canceled surgery, an overworked nurse or doctor, or a new space that has to be found. Hospitals in the U.S were pretty much at capacity before covid. And majority of the hospitalizations are from unvaccinated people.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Stop it, you are giving Canadians a bad name. Ontario had 2x as many in the hospital last January than today, and people are freaking out. Do yourself a solid and turn off the news.

throw the damn towel
- BINGO!

Nice to see you here again, sir.

But we can't. The last chance was trading Couturier for a bounty.

The die is cast. All rolls lead to snake eyes.

4. Stop whining.
- PT21

Yes. please! The same people claiming life is back to normal where they live are the same people constantly whining about covid.