Rangers dont need Flyers to retain they have like 9M in Cap room....also if they trade Kravtsov doubt they add a 1st..maybe a 2nd they have two of them
- hfc355

True , that being said it allows them to make another move if they see fit. All about providing the team trading for him as much flexibility as possible.

Then the flyers add a mid rd pick. I want a 1st coming back.

My top nominee to be the first out the door is TK!! He just needs to move on and he would actually probably fetch a half decent package to help change the makeup of this team. He is very frustrating to watch. There are games where you notice him on every shift and then there are many more games where you don't even know that he is on the ice. Second nominee is Sanheim. I'm tired of his act. He shows flashes, but he looks like a little girl out there. He would also attract attention of others teams cause he shows the skills at times. Thanks!!

throw the damn towel

My top nominee to be the first out the door is TK!! He just needs to move on and he would actually probably fetch a half decent package to help change the makeup of this team. He is very frustrating to watch. There are games where you notice him on every shift and then there are many more games where you don't even know that he is on the ice. Second nominee is Sanheim. I'm tired of his act. He shows flashes, but he looks like a little girl out there. He would also attract attention of others teams cause he shows the skills at times. Thanks!!
- Phillywhiteout

Define a half decent package?

Would love to know the value players on the flyers like him have around the league. do not think it is as high as many may think

It’s just comical at this point.

The entire 4th line and 3rd D pair don’t belong in the NHL.

With Couts out, they don’t have a #1C, in fact, with Hayes still in recovery mode, they don’t even have a 2C.

7 years into this rebuild/retool/rewhatever and they’re sorely lacking top end talent, especially at center. Even sadder is that after all this, their best player is a 34 year old soon to be FA

The entire organization reeks of failure and incompetence. Fletcher, the coaches and the developmental staff all need to go. It’s just pathetic at this point.

No one, absolutely no one, with a shred of objectivity can defend this organization.

Define a half decent package?

Would love to know the value players on the flyers like him have around the league. do not think it is as high as many may think
- hello it's me 2050

I think Konecny is pretty well thought of around the league. Legit top-6 forward. Fair value contract if he ends up topping out as a 50 point guy.

I like him. Not who I'd be looking to dump at this point.

I think Konecny is pretty well thought of around the league. Legit top-6 forward. Fair value contract if he ends up topping out as a 50 point guy.

I like him. Not who I'd be looking to dump at this point.
- BINGO!

has had more than 50 points once. Maybe that is an anomaly.

has had more than 50 points once. Maybe that is an anomaly.
- hello it's me 2050

That was in 66 games though, and last season was a 55 point pace. I think that might be what he is, but he's not horribly overpaid if that's the case.

It’s just comical at this point.

The entire 4th line and 3rd D pair don’t belong in the NHL.

With Couts out, they don’t have a #1C, in fact, with Hayes still in recovery mode, they don’t even have a 2C.

7 years into this rebuild/retool/rewhatever and they’re sorely lacking top end talent, especially at center. Even sadder is that after all this, their best player is a 34 year old soon to be FA

The entire organization reeks of failure and incompetence. Fletcher, the coaches and the developmental staff all need to go. It’s just pathetic at this point.

No one, absolutely no one, with a shred of objectivity can defend this organization.
- BiggE

what do you do to change the organizations way of thinking?

Who within the organization even has a sense of this isn't working? Scott relies on his archaic staff to run the hockey. Whoever named or recommended Fletcher as President of Hockey Ops and GM is a fn buffoon.

has had more than 50 points once. Maybe that is an anomaly.
- hello it's me 2050

Last 2 seasons, 83 games, 16G, 37A, 53Pts

He’s a legit 50 point player, not sure if that’s anything to brag about, but this team has much bigger problems than Konecny

That was in 66 games though, and last season was a 55 point pace. I think that might be what he is, but he's not horribly overpaid if that's the case.
- BINGO!

As I said he has had more than 50 points once. That is a flat out fact. Pace does not mean schitt to me. Actually results matter.

Last 2 seasons, 83 games, 16G, 37A, 53Pts

He’s a legit 50 point player, not sure if that’s anything to brag about, but this team has much bigger problems than Konecny
- BiggE

How many times has he had more than 50 points in each individual season?

No he is part of the problem as he doesn't produce enough. Disappears for long stretches.

It’s just comical at this point.

The entire 4th line and 3rd D pair don’t belong in the NHL.

With Couts out, they don’t have a #1C, in fact, with Hayes still in recovery mode, they don’t even have a 2C.

7 years into this rebuild/retool/rewhatever and they’re sorely lacking top end talent, especially at center. Even sadder is that after all this, their best player is a 34 year old soon to be FA

The entire organization reeks of failure and incompetence. Fletcher, the coaches and the developmental staff all need to go. It’s just pathetic at this point.

No one, absolutely no one, with a shred of objectivity can defend this organization.
- BiggE

There needs to be a microscope focused on this aspect. I've seen more than a few pundits mention lately that the Flyers as an organization seem to be lacking in the way they develop the players they have.

Something is not right about the way they progress as a whole. Between that and the injuries that seem to plague a great many of our prospects yearly, its become a huge problem when added all together.

Last 2 seasons, 83 games, 16G, 37A, 53Pts

He’s a legit 50 point player, not sure if that’s anything to brag about, but this team has much bigger problems than Konecny
- BiggE

yep

It's the cap situation going into NEXT year that I find more concerning for the Flyers.

Even if the cap goes up by a couple million, that still only gives them ~15 million in space with only 13 players signed. They're going to need a big chunk of that just to fill out the defense.

what do you do to change the organizations way of thinking?

Who within the organization even has a sense of this isn't working? Scott relies on his archaic staff to run the hockey. Whoever named or recommended Fletcher as President of Hockey Ops and GM is a fn buffoon.
- hello it's me 2050

What would I do? Well, first off Scott, along with Clarke & Homer, would be sent packing and I’d hire a new team President to thoroughly clean house.

But the real question is what will Comcast do. Sadly, unless their is a major drop off in attendance and merch sales, the likely answer is that they will do nothing. Sure, maybe Fletcher gets canned, but if Scott and his dinosaur cronies are the guys that choose his replacement, nothing will change.

There needs to be a microscope focused on this aspect. I've seen more than a few pundits mention lately that the Flyers as an organization seem to be lacking in the way they develop the players they have.

Something is not right about the way they progress as a whole. Between that and the injuries that seem to plague a great many of our prospects yearly, its become a huge problem when added all together.
- MBFlyerfan

Though doe s it start with the drafting? That is the first part of the development process.

There are 2 parts of development imo. At the AHL level and NHL level. Flyers are not good at either. Look at the NHL level and guys who went pretty much went right to the NHL. Have any really got much better? Any progressed into "stars"?

What I am trying to do is point out a very simple example to a very real problem with the Flyers. Anaheim is having a good season because they have young players that have the speed and skill that is needed to play in today's NHL, players like Drysdale, Zegras, Milano and Terry. The Flyers have Farabee, and maybe next year York. Who knows about Frost, O'Brien, Foerster and Tuomaala, maybe they come in next year, or maybe they don't.
- jd250

You've used a bad example.

What would I do? Well, first off Scott, along with Clarke & Homer, would be sent packing and I’d hire a new team President to thoroughly clean house.

But the real question is what will Comcast do. Sadly, unless their is a major drop off in attendance and merch sales, the likely answer is that they will do nothing. Sure, maybe Fletcher gets canned, but if Scott and his dinosaur cronies are the guys that choose his replacement, nothing will change.
- BiggE

Correct when/if revenue falls then you see changes.

There is nothing to indicate the old guard will change, nor will they change their approach.

A new President is imperative to me. Then allow him to make the moves he needs to make without any interference.

Last 2 seasons, 83 games, 16G, 37A, 53Pts

He’s a legit 50 point player, not sure if that’s anything to brag about, but this team has much bigger problems than Konecny
- BiggE

JVR
Next Year's Cap
The very existence of Rasmus Ristolainen

Rangers dont need Flyers to retain they have like 9M in Cap room....also if they trade Kravtsov doubt they add a 1st..maybe a 2nd they have two of them
- hfc355

The Rangers may want to make multiple moves, who knows.

Saw the first period and he was up and down the ice, making himself available. Getting shots through, looked like he belonged. Lord knows we could use him. Staple Yandle to the press box
- ClaudeFather

Well I may watch the next game just to see York. If he can consistently play like that there’s no reason not to have him up.

Someone posted on Twitter that he may have been the flyers best player last night.

Last 2 seasons, 83 games, 16G, 37A, 53Pts

He’s a legit 50 point player, not sure if that’s anything to brag about, but this team has much bigger problems than Konecny
- BiggE

They do but Konecny only scoring 5 goals in 33 games is an issue.

It’s fair and reasonable to say that the Flyers are lacking high end younger talent but to frame it as a guy on the Flyers can’t score a goal like Terry did was absurd. That goal was 100% preventable if Sanheim doesn’t play it like a pewee. Also, zebras and Terry are the only ones that fit that mold. Silano has one good season in 6 years.
- ClaudeFather

Its not absurd if I have never witnessed it. If you have witnessed a Flyers' player scoring a goal like this recently please let me know. Last night I thought both teams played good defense for the most part, it was a tight game, but the difference was plays like the one Terry made in the 1st. That is what is needed to win in today's NHL, i.e. in a tight game you have the skill and speed to make a play like that. It was Terry's acceleration with the puck that caused Sanheim's mistake on that play, make no mistake about it! The Flyers lack speed, and have lacked it for quite a few years, and that is why they lose.

Though doe s it start with the drafting? That is the first part of the development process.

There are 2 parts of development imo. At the AHL level and NHL level. Flyers are not good at either. Look at the NHL level and guys who went pretty much went right to the NHL. Have any really got much better? Any progressed into "stars"?
- hello it's me 2050

Maybe it does to a degree. But from what I see, most of the time the people who know stuff seem to say the Flyers do a pretty good job at the time of the draft. Im not talking about hindsight, Im talking about the draft grades they get AT THE TIME.

So it gets me thinking, are all those people misreading it just like the Flyers or is the Flyers way of developing them AFTER the draft more of an issue?