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Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Jan 5 @ 9:51 AM ET
The best thing that can happen to this team is for handle to get COVID and end his streak and hopefully his career as a flyer too.
I don't wish harm upon him I just want him out of the line up
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jan 5 @ 9:52 AM ET
They do but Konecny only scoring 5 goals in 33 games is an issue.
- MJL


and only one in 22 playoff games.

It's not the biggest problem they have at this point, but he's not helping dig them out of this much either unfortunately.

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 5 @ 9:52 AM ET
Maybe it does to a degree. But from what I see, most of the time the people who know stuff seem to say the Flyers do a pretty good job at the time of the draft. Im not talking about hindsight, Im talking about the draft grades they get AT THE TIME.

So it gets me thinking, are all those people misreading it just like the Flyers or is the Flyers way of developing them AFTER the draft more of an issue?

- MBFlyerfan

I believe it’s more of a development/coaching issue than a scouting/drafting issue.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jan 5 @ 9:53 AM ET
How many times has he had more than 50 points in each individual season?

No he is part of the problem as he doesn't produce enough. Disappears for long stretches.

- hello it's me 2050

I like TK, but my problem with him is 1. he is very effective when he is moving his feet but he doesn't always move his feet, and 2. he can't finish consistently. He has a lot of chances that he just doesn't bury them frequently enough.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jan 5 @ 9:54 AM ET
Well I may watch the next game just to see York. If he can consistently play like that there’s no reason not to have him up.

Someone posted on Twitter that he may have been the flyers best player last night.

- Hextall271

Even if he is inconsistent you let him play. Unless he just flat out is terrible.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jan 5 @ 9:55 AM ET
BTW, how is it even possible that Yandle hasn't tested positive for Covid yet?? I have never seen such bad luck follow one team that G and Provey test positive, but Yandle somehow doesn't. Something is up here.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 5 @ 9:56 AM ET
Its not absurd if I have never witnessed it. If you have witnessed a Flyers' player scoring a goal like this recently please let me know. Last night I thought both teams played good defense for the most part, it was a tight game, but the difference was plays like the one Terry made in the 1st. That is what is needed to win in today's NHL, i.e. in a tight game you have the skill and speed to make a play like that. It was Terry's acceleration with the puck that caused Sanheim's mistake on that play, make no mistake about it! The Flyers lack speed, and have lacked it for quite a few years, and that is why they lose.
- jd250


No it wasn't. It was a routine one on one play. Sanheim lunging for the puck is what created the opening for Terry to shift and skate by Sanheim. When you reach and lunge like that, you're off balance. You're making this into some highlight reel play to get to the net. It wasn't. The deke was nice but plenty of Flyers have scored on dekes. The reason why the Flyers lose is not speed primarily.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 5 @ 9:57 AM ET
BTW, how is it even possible that Yandle hasn't tested positive for Covid yet?? I have never seen such bad luck follow one team that G and Provey test positive, but Yandle somehow doesn't. Something is up here.
- jd250



Are you seriously going to label it bad luck that a fellow human being hasn't tested positive for Covid?
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jan 5 @ 9:57 AM ET
My top nominee to be the first out the door is TK!! He just needs to move on and he would actually probably fetch a half decent package to help change the makeup of this team. He is very frustrating to watch. There are games where you notice him on every shift and then there are many more games where you don't even know that he is on the ice. Second nominee is Sanheim. I'm tired of his act. He shows flashes, but he looks like a little girl out there. He would also attract attention of others teams cause he shows the skills at times. Thanks!!
- Phillywhiteout

I agree but if they are traded I would think it would happen in the off season, not at the deadline.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jan 5 @ 9:58 AM ET
Maybe it does to a degree. But from what I see, most of the time the people who know stuff seem to say the Flyers do a pretty good job at the time of the draft. Im not talking about hindsight, Im talking about the draft grades they get AT THE TIME.

So it gets me thinking, are all those people misreading it just like the Flyers or is the Flyers way of developing them AFTER the draft more of an issue?

- MBFlyerfan

Development is def an issue at the NHL and AHL level. How much is the question.

One thing the Flyers have done at the AHL level is not let guys play to their strengths to an extent. Guess at the NHL level as well. They try to pigeon hole players if that make sense. Over the years they take a lot of the creativity out of offensive minded players. Let a guy do what he does bets instead of trying to turn him into something else.
hfc355
Joined: 06.17.2013

Jan 5 @ 10:01 AM ET
True , that being said it allows them to make another move if they see fit. All about providing the team trading for him as much flexibility as possible.

Then the flyers add a mid rd pick. I want a 1st coming back.

- hello it's me 2050

Yep think G and a 3rd for Krvtsov and 1st is killer deal for Flyers. Do it in a heartbeat
hfc355
Joined: 06.17.2013

Jan 5 @ 10:05 AM ET
There needs to be a microscope focused on this aspect. I've seen more than a few pundits mention lately that the Flyers as an organization seem to be lacking in the way they develop the players they have.

Something is not right about the way they progress as a whole. Between that and the injuries that seem to plague a great many of our prospects yearly, its become a huge problem when added all together.

- MBFlyerfan

3 yrs ago they were rated the #1 farm system in the NHL and what do we have to show for it ? Hart..and a couple of maybes with many more misses
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jan 5 @ 10:07 AM ET
Yep think G and a 3rd for Krvtsov and 1st is killer deal for Flyers. Do it in a heartbeat
- hfc355

Makes a lot of sense. so wont happen.

If CC was open to being traded and didn't limit the teams I wonder what he would get in a bidding war.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jan 5 @ 10:08 AM ET
3 yrs ago they were rated the #1 farm system in the NHL and what do we have to show for it ? Hart..and a couple of maybes with many more misses
- hfc355

I do not recall them ever being the top rated farm system. You sure?
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Jan 5 @ 10:08 AM ET
Its not absurd if I have never witnessed it. If you have witnessed a Flyers' player scoring a goal like this recently please let me know. Last night I thought both teams played good defense for the most part, it was a tight game, but the difference was plays like the one Terry made in the 1st. That is what is needed to win in today's NHL, i.e. in a tight game you have the skill and speed to make a play like that. It was Terry's acceleration with the puck that caused Sanheim's mistake on that play, make no mistake about it! The Flyers lack speed, and have lacked it for quite a few years, and that is why they lose.
- jd250




heres a more skillfull goal for you, dope
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 5 @ 10:11 AM ET
Maybe it does to a degree. But from what I see, most of the time the people who know stuff seem to say the Flyers do a pretty good job at the time of the draft. Im not talking about hindsight, Im talking about the draft grades they get AT THE TIME.

So it gets me thinking, are all those people misreading it just like the Flyers or is the Flyers way of developing them AFTER the draft more of an issue?

- MBFlyerfan


There is no doubt that the Flyers struggle with developing players.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jan 5 @ 10:11 AM ET
and only one in 22 playoff games.

It's not the biggest problem they have at this point, but he's not helping dig them out of this much either unfortunately.

- BINGO!


He also gets a good amount of prime chances. He definitely needs to finish more. Hopefully he flips the switch in the near future.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jan 5 @ 10:13 AM ET
He also gets a good amount of prime chances. He definitely needs to finish more. Hopefully he flips the switch in the near future.
- mickel25

He has been here a while now. The country club atmosphere as taken over in many players. Another guy who seems to be content.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jan 5 @ 10:14 AM ET
He has been here a while now. The country club atmosphere as taken over in many players. Another guy who seems to be content.
- hello it's me 2050


He is only 24. I don't think the book is written just yet.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 5 @ 10:14 AM ET
Yep think G and a 3rd for Krvtsov and 1st is killer deal for Flyers. Do it in a heartbeat
- hfc355


The Rangers have to solve the Kratsov dilemma but in my opinion, if they're smart. The Rangers shouldn't be giving up any 1st rounders this season for rentals. They're on the cusp of having a really strong team that can have an open window for a while. Let the young players continue to develop and grow. Don't hastily give up someone like Kakko or 1st round picks. Let it grow.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 5 @ 10:16 AM ET
Even if he is inconsistent you let him play. Unless he just flat out is terrible.
- hello it's me 2050


Yes. It’s at the point where he’s no worse than what you have out there and he has an upside. I’m all for it. I’m grasping for positives this year and that might be one.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jan 5 @ 10:16 AM ET
Are you seriously going to label it bad luck that a fellow human being hasn't tested positive for Covid?
- MJL

Of course I don't mean that I wish for Yandle to get very sick or worse, and luckily with this latest mutation a lot of players are asymptomatic or have mild symptoms. My only point is its amazing to me that the Flyers have so many key players out of the lineup because of Covid testing and yet Yandle somehow has not tested positive.
Angus4444
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2018

Jan 5 @ 10:17 AM ET
Development is def an issue at the NHL and AHL level. How much is the question.

One thing the Flyers have done at the AHL level is not let guys play to their strengths to an extent. Guess at the NHL level as well. They try to pigeon hole players if that make sense. Over the years they take a lot of the creativity out of offensive minded players. Let a guy do what he does bets instead of trying to turn him into something else.

- hello it's me 2050

Any thoughts on Scott Gordon when he coached the Phantoms? Was he let go, or moved on because of differences in the way management wanted him to coach up the draft picks. I agree with your post. You draft guys like Frost etc, turn them loose. We don’t need 12 200ft players on the same team.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 5 @ 10:18 AM ET
Of course I don't mean that I wish for Yandle to get very sick or worse, and luckily with this latest mutation a lot of players are asymptomatic or have mild symptoms. My only point is its amazing to me that the Flyers have so many key players out of the lineup because of Covid testing and yet Yandle somehow has not tested positive.
- jd250


No, your point was disgusting and poorly thought out. Can't spin out of this one. How many other players have yet to test positive? Why did you single Yandle out? Please.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jan 5 @ 10:20 AM ET
He is only 24. I don't think the book is written just yet.
- mickel25

It may not be. He has 400 or so game sunder his belt. Just may not happen here.
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