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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 5 @ 11:51 AM ET
Lighten up Francis

No one wants anyone to get covid - can we move on from the covid discussion please before this goes off the rails.. trying to solve a bigger riddle which is how to cure the ills of the flyers

- Joe Nardone



I'm very light and I'm on the right side of it.
arichardson22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jan 5 @ 11:53 AM ET
How is that source credible? We should take any comment like that with a grain of salt. Again, in terms of the Patrick pick. There was no consensus among the scouts. Scouts did not agree on anything. Some wanted Makar, some Heiskanen, some Patrick.
- MJL


Credible or not, still interesting to discuss. But again, Sanheim one doesn’t bother me. It is funny though, Hextall actually was related to Sanheim through a family marriage. Add the fact Patrick was with Wheat Kings, it makes you wonder if Hextall picked guys he was more familiar with over fit. Who knows (and who cares) in the end. It’s all hindsight.
Joe Nardone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Medicine Hat
Joined: 07.05.2018

Jan 5 @ 11:54 AM ET
I'm very light and I'm on the right side of it.
- MJL


Ok
Joe Nardone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Medicine Hat
Joined: 07.05.2018

Jan 5 @ 11:55 AM ET
This one doesn’t bother me as much as Patrick / Makar. How many other teams passed on Pasta before he was picked? The fact scouts agreed Makar or Heis were better options is far more upsetting given it was early in the draft.

Having said this, people seem to forget at the time of this draft Giroux was declining (obviously wasn’t the case looking now); he was coming off core injury and it showed we really didn’t have a strong RH center nor a strong natural center prospect, we also didn’t have a shoot first center. We were gifted the #2 pick and Patrick literally checked all the boxes for our franchise’s biggest position need (arguably). While it’s frustrating our scouts wanted to steer clear, i somewhat understand the pick

- arichardson22


Possible we also leaned towards Patrick cause we overrated (or they got hurt) our own d crop?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 5 @ 11:55 AM ET
Credible or not, still interesting to discuss. But again, Sanheim one doesn’t bother me. It is funny though, Hextall actually was related to Sanheim through a family marriage. Add the fact Patrick was with Wheat Kings, it makes you wonder if Hextall picked guys he was more familiar with over fit. Who knows (and who cares) in the end. It’s all hindsight.
- arichardson22


Flyers traditionally draft BPA. Patrick was definitely a fit with the Flyers having a need for a top center long term.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 5 @ 11:56 AM ET



I guess the 24 other teams who passed on Pastrnak are absolved. And the teams who didn't pick him after the Flyers and before the Bruins are also absolved.

Im so sick of this hindsight bullpoop.

Same goes for those who are insinuating that the Ducks are some sort of drafting geniuses for picking Troy (frank)ing Terry in the 5th round as if that was their genius plan all along. Where they somehow knew every other team would pass on him 5 times and they are brilliant for making the pick when they did, instead of it being pure (frank)ing luck.

Just stop.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jan 5 @ 11:57 AM ET

The never-say-die part of me wants to wait until next Thursday against the Bruins to say this, but in the interest of honesty, the very slim shot at the playoffs evaporates if the Flyers lose in any fashion to Pittsburgh tomorrow.

I hope if the games is played, whoever is wearing a Flyers jersey plays like it’s for all the marbles. Just a few mistakes, some missed scoring opportunities that were left unfinished…but the reality of it is that the losing skid left very little margin for error and they have almost used it all up.

KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Jan 5 @ 11:58 AM ET
I got a weird one for a silver lining. Giroux tests positive and now he’s a better trade candidate moving forward. Assuming that testing is not as extensive for players that were positive and the likelihood of him getting it again anytime soon is none.
- ClaudeFather


You can still get COVID after you test positive/have it.
hfc355
Joined: 06.17.2013

Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM ET
I do not recall them ever being the top rated farm system. You sure?
- hello it's me 2050

Yes
arichardson22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jan 5 @ 12:01 PM ET
You can still get COVID after you test positive/have it.
- KGBflyers10


I saw something from NFL other day, since many Eagles players tested positive after WFT game. Apparently (in the NFL) if you test positive you don’t have to be tested for 60 days. Perhaps that’s what he meant, but I have no clue if this rule is also applied in the NHL
hfc355
Joined: 06.17.2013

Jan 5 @ 12:05 PM ET
The Rangers have to solve the Kratsov dilemma but in my opinion, if they're smart. The Rangers shouldn't be giving up any 1st rounders this season for rentals. They're on the cusp of having a really strong team that can have an open window for a while. Let the young players continue to develop and grow. Don't hastily give up someone like Kakko or 1st round picks. Let it grow.
- MJL

They arent giving up on kakko in anyway. They wouldnt trade him unless could get a prime center prospect I am sure...Kratsov doesnt have a spot and they have more then enough talent coming up. He will be in some sort of trade package and their late 1st when they have two seconds this year will be in play
arichardson22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jan 5 @ 12:07 PM ET
I guess the 24 other teams who passed on Pastrnak are absolved. And the teams who didn't pick him after the Flyers and before the Bruins are also absolved.

Im so sick of this hindsight bullpoop.

Same goes for those who are insinuating that the Ducks are some sort of drafting geniuses for picking Troy (frank)ing Terry in the 5th round as if that was their genius plan all along. Where they somehow knew every other team would pass on him 5 times and they are brilliant for making the pick when they did, instead of it being pure (frank)ing luck.

Just stop.

- MBFlyerfan


Exactly regarding Sanheim/Pasta. Some of the other guys chosen before Pasta:

Jared McCann (VAN)
Conner Bleackley (COL)
Kapanen (PITT)
Robby Fabri (STL)
Nick Schmaltz (CHI)
Tony Deangelo (Tampa)
Alex Tuch (MIN)
Sonny Milano (CLB)
Brendan Perlini (ARZ)
Nick Ritchie (ANA)
Jake Virtanen (VAN)

I much rather have Sanheim over some of these guys, but you don't hear these teams complaining about missing Pasta. When it comes to Terry, pure luck as you said. Same could be applied to snagging Oskar in his draft year. Terry though is an extreme case, he's never cracked 10 goals at the pro level until this year.
hfc355
Joined: 06.17.2013

Jan 5 @ 12:08 PM ET
We'll see if a trade happens, look, my only point is I don't see the Flyers and Rangers ever making a deal like this given their history and rivalry.
- jd250

They traded Lindros to the Rangers...If you can trade G and the rangers offer the best package you do it no questions ask. You have to improve your team not worry about past rivalries
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Jan 5 @ 12:11 PM ET
He also played pretty damn well when he came back from his finger/hand injury.
- arichardson22


but but but nashville knew this would happen...nothing to do with cap


Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 5 @ 12:18 PM ET
Just tank baby
hfc355
Joined: 06.17.2013

Jan 5 @ 12:23 PM ET
Just tank baby
- Just5

You know we will end up with the 12th -15th pick....will end up 85 points or so
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jan 5 @ 12:23 PM ET
How is that source credible? We should take any comment like that with a grain of salt. Again, in terms of the Patrick pick. There was no consensus among the scouts. Scouts did not agree on anything. Some wanted Makar, some Heiskanen, some Patrick.
- MJL

Can you prove it is not credible?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jan 5 @ 12:24 PM ET
Credible or not, still interesting to discuss. But again, Sanheim one doesn’t bother me. It is funny though, Hextall actually was related to Sanheim through a family marriage. Add the fact Patrick was with Wheat Kings, it makes you wonder if Hextall picked guys he was more familiar with over fit. Who knows (and who cares) in the end. It’s all hindsight.
- arichardson22

Ivan also a wheat king. Interesting junior hockey blood lines...
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jan 5 @ 12:24 PM ET
I guess the 24 other teams who passed on Pastrnak are absolved. And the teams who didn't pick him after the Flyers and before the Bruins are also absolved.

Im so sick of this hindsight bullpoop.

Same goes for those who are insinuating that the Ducks are some sort of drafting geniuses for picking Troy (frank)ing Terry in the 5th round as if that was their genius plan all along. Where they somehow knew every other team would pass on him 5 times and they are brilliant for making the pick when they did, instead of it being pure (frank)ing luck.

Just stop.

- MBFlyerfan

It isn't about what the other teams did or didn't do. IF true it is a big blunder is all.
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Jan 5 @ 12:32 PM ET
What’s up with the Flyers and groin injuries
- ClaudeFather

I blame Taryn
BluehorseShoe64
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2018

Jan 5 @ 12:33 PM ET
Looks like I picked a good night to do the laundry and take down the Christmas tree instead of watching these sad sacks. Glad to hear that York played well!! Take Yandle out of the lineup FOREVER!! I don't give a phuck about his streak!! Thanks!

Agreed. And agree with the other post about covid excuses. Every team is going through it, why is it a thing for this team? No matter what happens, they lose.

My new nightly routine is to check in on them for the score. And if they at least look competitive, I will watch (I have a very high tolerance, as I really want to watch them)
But they were losing early last night, making 4 episodes of Cobra Kai much better entertainment. Not sure what more management needs to see from Yandle and to a lesser extent Braun (not blaming him, just saying, it's time to start letting youth get some ice time) But York played over 20 minutes, and was even at zero +/-. What is going to change for this team from a personnel standpoint ? If Fletcher is waiting until everyone is back to make a conclusion, he'll be waiting through the summer.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 5 @ 12:36 PM ET
The never-say-die part of me wants to wait until next Thursday against the Bruins to say this, but in the interest of honesty, the very slim shot at the playoffs evaporates if the Flyers lose in any fashion to Pittsburgh tomorrow.

I hope if the games is played, whoever is wearing a Flyers jersey plays like it’s for all the marbles. Just a few mistakes, some missed scoring opportunities that were left unfinished…but the reality of it is that the losing skid left very little margin for error and they have almost used it all up.

- NC Flyers Fan


The Flyers chances of making the playoffs ended weeks ago. They just haven't mathematically been eliminated yet.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 5 @ 12:37 PM ET
They arent giving up on kakko in anyway. They wouldnt trade him unless could get a prime center prospect I am sure...Kratsov doesnt have a spot and they have more then enough talent coming up. He will be in some sort of trade package and their late 1st when they have two seconds this year will be in play
- hfc355


That may be the case but they shouldn't be trading their first in my opinion.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 5 @ 12:37 PM ET
Word on the street is he had Chris Stewart over and they played Twister.
- PLindbergh31


I'm honestly (frank)ing shocked that Nate Prosser hasn't been called yet.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 5 @ 12:39 PM ET
They traded Lindros to the Rangers...If you can trade G and the rangers offer the best package you do it no questions ask. You have to improve your team not worry about past rivalries
- hfc355


Not trading inside the division/conference as a matter of policy is antiquated dumbassery. Basically just limiting your own options and tying your own hands.
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