What evidence is there that the Flyers no longer operate under the old school ways to suggest that it is an out of date criticism? We'll start there.
- MJL

To me the biggest factor is what are the Flyers doing with their picks and prospects. For the most part Fletcher has carried on Hextall's philosophy of drafting and developing players. Fletcher has not traded every pick and moved every prospect to win now. Last off season was not the norm. The decision was made, and I believe rightly so, that this team and core group need a major shakeup and that is what Fletcher did. Injuries have played a significant role in both the moves last off season and the draft selections that have been made over the past several seasons by both Hextall and Fletcher. Now if Fletcher goes about having another off season like last off season, throwing money at players like Gaudreau then I will agree with you. But I think so far Fletcher has been careful and calculating, and not overreacting or going back to the Homer days.

Look at you two bonding! lol
- Scoob

the enemy of my enemy ...

Seriously, I may argue with him a lot and he gets under my skin, but I love MJL and wouldn't have it any other way!

So why don't they refer to the Covid vaccine as the Covid shot?

My god, man. My god.
- MJL

I took your advice about this poster last night because it was right. You should do the same. He's a know-nothing who spouts off opinions like they were facts.

My big question is why Chuck won't bring up Zamula, Honigberg, Sushko, Sandin and Ratcliffe. I would even bring up the Germ. Our roster has way too few playmakers. Let's see what some of these kids can do.

I trust Cuck Fletcher’s ability to build a quality NHL team less than:

A cocktail made by Bill Cosby
Gas station sushi
A daycare run by Casey Anthony
A politician’s promises
Investment advice from Bernie Madoff
- BiggE

lol Cuck Fletcher

To me the biggest factor is what are the Flyers doing with their picks and prospects. For the most part Fletcher has carried on Hextall's philosophy of drafting and developing players. Fletcher has not traded every pick and moved every prospect to win now. Last off season was not the norm. The decision was made, and I believe rightly so, that this team and core group need a major shakeup and that is what Fletcher did. Injuries have played a significant role in both the moves last off season and the draft selections that have been made over the past several seasons by both Hextall and Fletcher. Now if Fletcher goes about having another off season like last off season, throwing money at players like Gaudreau then I will agree with you. But I think so far Fletcher has been careful and calculating, and not overreacting or going back to the Homer days.
- jd250

Has he improved the flyers position since taking over?

See .. he's sucking us in .. he's sucking us in ..
- jd250

Just stop posting things that are not just off the chart dumb but also dangerous, and that will be the most effective way to keep me on hockey related topics.




It's not a vaccine. Its' a shot.

So why don't they refer to the Covid vaccine as the Covid shot?

My god, man. My god.
- MJL

I thought it was the "jab"

come on man!

No, that's not correct.

- MJL

No, your dad.

To me the biggest factor is what are the Flyers doing with their picks and prospects. For the most part Fletcher has carried on Hextall's philosophy of drafting and developing players. Fletcher has not traded every pick and moved every prospect to win now. Last off season was not the norm. The decision was made, and I believe rightly so, that this team and core group need a major shakeup and that is what Fletcher did. Injuries have played a significant role in both the moves last off season and the draft selections that have been made over the past several seasons by both Hextall and Fletcher. Now if Fletcher goes about having another off season like last off season, throwing money at players like Gaudreau then I will agree with you. But I think so far Fletcher has been careful and calculating, and not overreacting or going back to the Homer days.
- jd250

This myth or narrative that goes around that Fletcher hasn't traded every pick or prospect to win now is pretty funny. As if that is ever done by any GM. Neither did Holmgren. There is not doubt that the team reversed course from a patient draft and develop approach to a more aggressive win now posture. What Fletcher and the team did last off season was disastrous and the completely wrong thing that they should've done. Until I see otherwise, I have no reason to think that it won't continue in the future. Fletcher hasn't been calculating. He's been stupid.

I took your advice about this poster last night because it was right. You should do the same. He's a know-nothing who spouts off opinions like they were facts.

My big question is why Chuck won't bring up Zamula, Honigberg, Sushko, Sandin and Ratcliffe. I would even bring up the Germ. Our roster has way too few playmakers. Let's see what some of these kids can do.
- iamscore2day

well one reason might be if he brought up all these players he wouldn't be able to ice a team for the Phantoms, who are also severely depleted. I think there should be a clear policy of what a team's condition must be in order to postpone or cancel the game, and there is not one from what I can tell. That is the problem with the league right now IMO. One step that should be immediately taken is to stop testing players unless they show symptoms. I believe the NFL has adopted this policy now and makes a lot of sense to me since the current variant is mild and most players are asymptomatic. Carter Hart was spot on and I hope other players feel the same and start pressuring the league. The product on the ice is awful right now because too many players across the league are sitting out when they don't have to.

Just stop posting things that are not just off the chart dumb but also dangerous, and that will be the most effective way to keep me on hockey related topics.




It's not a vaccine. Its' a shot.

- PT21

People aren't listening to what is posted on a hockey web site to form their beliefs on Covid. Nor are they going to listen to you. That's what you don't get.

Supposedly Homer is out of hockey opps and has been for a while. The Fletcher hire did reek of Clarke giving input, but for the most part the old blame the old school Flyers and their way of thinking is probably an out of date line of thinking or criticism.

As far as Scott is concerned I def think he oked Fletchers activity last off-season. Wish one of those two would have been more anxious two years ago in replacing Nisk. Maybe they were in on Pietrangelo and did not have any other cards to play.
- Joe Nardone

I wonder though if there is some subliminal influence of the old guard. Not overt, but sort of like expectations.

Remember, apparently one of the strikes against Hexy was that he was not significantly respectful of the "franchise royalty". The quote is Bill's words, not mine.

I took your advice about this poster last night because it was right. You should do the same. He's a know-nothing who spouts off opinions like they were facts.

My big question is why Chuck won't bring up Zamula, Honigberg, Sushko, Sandin and Ratcliffe. I would even bring up the Germ. Our roster has way too few playmakers. Let's see what some of these kids can do.
- iamscore2day

I often don't practice what I preach.


I think that they want to protect prospects as best they can. Try to avoid putting players in positions they aren't ready for. Right or wrong.

This myth or narrative that goes around that Fletcher hasn't traded every pick or prospect to win now is pretty funny. As if that is ever done by any GM. Neither did Holmgren. There is not doubt that the team reversed course from a patient draft and develop approach to a more aggressive win now posture. What Fletcher and the team did last off season was disastrous and the completely wrong thing that they should've done. Until I see otherwise, I have no reason to think that it won't continue in the future. Fletcher hasn't been calculating. He's been stupid.
- MJL

Just to remind you of the Homer years in terms of drafting.

2008: Flyers had 5 picks, 1st, 3rd, 3rd, 6th, 7th.
2009: Flyers had 6 picks, 3rd, 3rd, 5th, 6th, 6th, 7th
2010: Flyers had 6 picks, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 7th
2011: Flyers had 6 picks, 1st, 3rd, 4th, 4th, 6th, 7th

This is what I would consider being in win now mode in terms of drafting and developing. We are just not even close to this right now.

Why not York and Risto as your top pair, I think they would compliment each other well.
- jd250

Mainly just because York already played with Braun.

Presumably Zamula will play with Risto as the 2nd pair who may get as many minutes as the first.

What evidence is there that the Flyers no longer operate under the old school ways to suggest that it is an out of date criticism? We'll start there.
- MJL

Homer is in semi retirement and has been for years. He reiterated as much when he went into the flyers hall a few months back.

Have you watched their drafts? The old regime are not calling the shots and have not for years. Even during hextall he called the shots just like Fletcher does now.

Their ills have nothing to do w an old line of thinking or archaic hockey strategy. They draft regardless of size, put an emphasis on speed and do actually use and value analytics just like everyone else. It has to do with the previous and current gm simply not being good enough. If you want to blame Scott for that, that’s more than fair, but they are not drafting big bulky forchecking wingers, big plodding d and two way centerman types anymore. They have drafted best available and if anything their picks are on the small side these days. This has nothing to do with the old regime. The newer or new regimes just simply were and are not good enough. Clarke and Homer are gone.

This mess was created by Hextall, Fletcher and the guy who hired them.

Possible because being vaccinated does not prevent contracting the virus but prevents severe illness or hospitalization. You can still catch it! You can also be positive for the virus but asymptomatic as some players are. The Omicron strain is also very contagious but apparently less severe.

I am only going to say one thing and then not reply any more. There is no such thing as a Flu vaccine! They call it a Flu shot for a reason, because its not a vaccine. Again, go to the dictionary and look up the definition of vaccine, and then look up the definition of immunity which is what a vaccine is supposed to provide and then ask yourself if this conversation makes any sense. I'm done now.
- jd250

You should have quit a while ago cause you're talking nonsense.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/keyfacts.htm

I often don't practice what I preach.


I think that they want to protect prospects as best they can. Try to avoid putting players in positions they aren't ready for. Right or wrong.
- MJL

Sandin is 25. Sushko is 24. Sushko and Sharangovich were both studs on the same Belorussian team. Sushko is likely better than a number of players Fletch was putting on the ice before the recent insanity. The Pens play these young guys and some of them do pretty well. We need to find out about these guys.

Just to remind you of the Homer years in terms of drafting.

2008: Flyers had 5 picks, 1st, 3rd, 3rd, 6th, 7th.
2009: Flyers had 6 picks, 3rd, 3rd, 5th, 6th, 6th, 7th
2010: Flyers had 6 picks, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 7th
2011: Flyers had 6 picks, 1st, 3rd, 4th, 4th, 6th, 7th

This is what I would consider being in win now mode in terms of drafting and developing. We are just not even close to this right now.
- jd250

Didn’t some of those picks go for pronger. Can’t argue w that move.

This game tonight is part of the ticket package I bought, it’s absurd we have to Watch a gutted team bc of covid.

I often don't practice what I preach.


I think that they want to protect prospects as best they can. Try to avoid putting players in positions they aren't ready for. Right or wrong.
- MJL

most of their prospects in Leigh just are not NHL caliber players. Excluding goalies you have York and Zamula. Maybe Hogberg who they should be be looking at; then again maybe they don't think he is nhl caliber.

Up front they have zilch. They aint protecting schitt. Nothing to protect.

So why don't they refer to the Covid vaccine as the Covid shot?

My god, man. My god.
- MJL

They do, Q. They do.

https://www.cdc.gov/coron...accines/booster-shot.html

COVID-19 Vaccine Booster Shots

Has he improved the flyers position since taking over?
- hello it's me 2050

I think coming into this season the team on paper was the best team in the past several seasons. Losing Ellis, Hayes and Couturier, and now all the players to Covid have had a substantial impact to this team, this is just a fact, not an opinion. I have no doubt that if this team was healthy from the start of the season, and especially the way their goalies have played and G has rebounded, they would be solidly in the playoff picture. So the answer is yes, I think Fletcher has improved not only the team, but also the prospect pool, which has unfortunately also taken a big hit due to injuries.

But the Flyers, as is every other NHL team, are all 100% vaccinated with all 3 shots according to Chuck Fletcher. How is it possible then that the players are contracting Covid and then spreading it throughout the locker room? And again I ask, how many players does a team have to be down before the game is postponed? What is the policy? Why were games postponed last week but not this week?
- jd250

See above