On the 3rd goal, Sanheim got completely pummeled by Bergeron, that more than anything else is why that goal was scored. Hart never saw it. Sanheim is another player I have seen enough of. He is weak, routinely gets pushed around and loses too many puck battles. The first Bruins' goal was at least partially on Sanheim also.
- jd250

The first goal wasn't on Sanheim at all. It was a routine cross ice pass botched by Laughton. Remember a while back on a goal scored when Provorov lunged for the puck and you stated he should've played it off the wall because the puck always bounces too you? You told me I never played the game. That is an example of how the puck doesn't always come off the wall how you expect it to or want it to.

Young players must earn the right to move up in the lineup and play with the better forwards on the team. They do this by busting their butts shift after shift and making a noticeable impact to the game no matter who they are playing with. Frost has not earned the right IMO, he is invisible most nights.
- jd250

while they should earn it the Flyers are bad at putting them in a position to succeed. How many NHL games has Frost played? His skill set needs linemates that have skill, which this team is limited on. Who has earned top minutes? Put Frost with skill players and let them play and build chemistry, its a joke how they do it.

WTH was MacEwen doing on the ice at the end of the game? Not a scorer, not good hands. Yeo is a bit of a dunce.
- iamscore2day

Not saying the guy deserves top minutes but has anything worked so far this year ? The guy hustles on every shift he gets. There were guys that played last night that you wouldn’t even know they did if you didn’t check the box score

And you know this how exactly? Again I ask, how many coaches and GMs have to come through before we start holding the players accountable?
- jd250

What has the GM ever accomplished in his NHL management career?

Any coach that has Zac Macewen out in the last 60 seconds of a game loses my faith.

The players are the problem also, never said otherwise.

Players, GM, and coaches all need to go.

I really don't think the assessment is going to happen this way. You are not giving Fletcher or Yeo any credit that they see what is going on, but again, what else is new? Injuries and Covid are certainly facts that cannot be ignored. However there are so many deeper issues with this team that Yeo talks about presser after presser, its clear a much more significant reset is coming.
- jd250

Tell me why I should give either guy any credit? Based on their job performance? What gives you any confidence whatsoever in the entire hockey hierarchy of this franchise that they see what is going on and will act accordingly? There is not a single piece of information that I can think of that would give me confidence in that. From the reversal from patiently drafting and developing, to what they've done under Fletcher, to the recent developments with Clarke, etc. This franchise has become a disaster.

But this is the thing, he is on the list and is not an isolated situation. Perhaps he is not the poster child for this (Carter and Willams would be my candidates) but he can’t be dismissed is my point.
- iamscore2day

Carter and Williams are bad examples. Sorry. Carter was a hell of a player here. They didn't give up on him per say because he didn't produce.

Williams was traded in a hockey deal that brought a much needed top 4 dman in return. No issues at all with that trade. Flyers went for it, as you should when you think your close.

Tell me why I should give either guy any credit? Based on their job performance? What gives you any confidence whatsoever in the entire hockey hierarchy of this franchise that they see what is going on and will act accordingly? There is not a single piece of information that I can think of that would give me confidence in that. From the reversal from patiently drafting and developing, to what they've done under Fletcher, to the recent developments with Clarke, etc. This franchise has become a disaster.
- MJL

Give it a rest Cliff.

wilman in the line up instead of NAK
nuff said

Young players must earn the right to move up in the lineup and play with the better forwards on the team. They do this by busting their butts shift after shift and making a noticeable impact to the game no matter who they are playing with. Frost has not earned the right IMO, he is invisible most nights.
- jd250

You share in the mindsight of the Flyers and that mindset is why they're a poor team. The job of player development is to help the players succeed and grow. That mindset does not do that.

And you know this how exactly? Again I ask, how many coaches and GMs have to come through before we start holding the players accountable?
- jd250

The same way you know that Frost will never be a good NHL player.

Bottom line: the Flyers are not a very good team/organization. They lost again.

The first goal wasn't on Sanheim at all. It was a routine cross ice pass botched by Laughton. Remember a while back on a goal scored when Provorov lunged for the puck and you stated he should've played it off the wall because the puck always bounces too you? You told me I never played the game. That is an example of how the puck doesn't always come off the wall how you expect it to or want it to.
- MJL

Before that stupid pass by Laughton, Sanheim got easily bumped off the puck in the left corner allowing the Bruin forward to gain possession. And there is a big difference when the puck bounces off a curved board in the corner versus a straight board along the blue line.

The same way you know that Frost will never be a good NHL player.

- MJL

I can at least give you several reasons why I don't think Frost will ever be a good NHL player. I just want to know the reasons why we are positive Yeo and Fletcher cannot be part of the solution here.

The same way you know that Frost will never be a good NHL player.

- MJL

ha, not bad Cliff

I can at least give you several reasons why I don't think Frost will ever be a good NHL player. I just want to know the reasons why we are positive Yeo and Fletcher cannot be part of the solution here.
- jd250

reasons have been provided. You choose to ignore them

Before that stupid pass by Laughton, Sanheim got easily bumped off the puck in the left corner allowing the Bruin forward to gain possession. And there is a big difference when the puck bounces off a curved board in the corner versus a straight board along the blue line.
- jd250

You are not correct. There was a turnover at the left side at the blue line. Sanheim was not involved in that. Laughton recovered the puck and made a poor pass. You can never count on the puck coming off the boards cleanly anywhere. Sanheim had no fault whatsoever on that goal.

I can at least give you several reasons why I don't think Frost will ever be a good NHL player. I just want to know the reasons why we are positive Yeo and Fletcher cannot be part of the solution here.
- jd250

Anybody can come up with a reason out of the air.

Tell me why I should give either guy any credit? Based on their job performance? What gives you any confidence whatsoever in the entire hockey hierarchy of this franchise that they see what is going on and will act accordingly? There is not a single piece of information that I can think of that would give me confidence in that. From the reversal from patiently drafting and developing, to what they've done under Fletcher, to the recent developments with Clarke, etc. This franchise has become a disaster.
- MJL

I actually listen to them when they speak. They are not sugar coating this, or making excuses, at least not that I have ever heard. I mean Fletcher came right out and said the Flyers do not have the personnel needed to have successful PP. Yeo has come out repeatedly and talked about the bad habits on this team and the lack of preparation and readiness. The more I hear Yeo, the more I think he gets it.

With Clarke, look, he bleeds orange and black and he is frustrated with the state of the team, and it appears he has a lot of lingering animosity towards Hextall. I agree airing his views publicly was not appropriate, but to be honest, I loved it! It at least tells me he gives a bleep, and I am sure he is not the only one.

York played well. Frost played with pace at least, and got moved from 4C to LW on Laughton's line
However, he was fighting the puck all night.
- bmeltzer

Thanks. This team looks like a bottom feeder so the only interesting part is watching and hoping the young player progress. It seems like that’s not happening either for the most part. Glad to hear York played well. I was hoping Frost took the lesson from the 4 line assessment to get motivated. I think it’s understandable when young players make mistakes, bad positioning/ coverage but the effort , playing with pace, should not be the issue at this point.

It’s aggravating to watch this team most games
Thank you for your articles, I look forward to reading them daily!

I actually listen to them when they speak. They are not sugar coating this, or making excuses, at least not that I have ever heard. I mean Fletcher came right out and said the Flyers do not have the personnel needed to have successful PP. Yeo has come out repeatedly and talked about the bad habits on this team and the lack of preparation and readiness. The more I hear Yeo, the more I think he gets it.

With Clarke, look, he bleeds orange and black and he is frustrated with the state of the team, and it appears he has a lot of lingering animosity towards Hextall. I agree airing his views publicly was not appropriate, but to be honest, I loved it! It at least tells me he gives a bleep, and I am sure he is not the only one.
- jd250

Has Yeo been part of this coaching staff the last 3 years?

I actually listen to them when they speak. They are not sugar coating this, or making excuses, at least not that I have ever heard. I mean Fletcher came right out and said the Flyers do not have the personnel needed to have successful PP. Yeo has come out repeatedly and talked about the bad habits on this team and the lack of preparation and readiness. The more I hear Yeo, the more I think he gets it.

With Clarke, look, he bleeds orange and black and he is frustrated with the state of the team, and it appears he has a lot of lingering animosity towards Hextall. I agree airing his views publicly was not appropriate, but to be honest, I loved it! It at least tells me he gives a bleep, and I am sure he is not the only one.
- jd250

So you go by what they say rather than looking at what they actually do or have done? Makes sense.
You and I and everyone else knows the Flyers don't have the players they need. Hey, we can all be GM's


Wow, Yeo gets it. The question is what can he do about it. Why don't you get that?

Oh cool, Clarke gives a bleep. I love Clarke and love all that he has done for this team but now, Clarke should be shown the bleeping door.

Carter and Williams are bad examples. Sorry. Carter was a hell of a player here. They didn't give up on him per say because he didn't produce.

Williams was traded in a hockey deal that brought a much needed top 4 dman in return. No issues at all with that trade. Flyers went for it, as you should when you think your close.
- hello it's me 2050

So, with all of the general agreement on this board about the lack of elite superstars to play with Giroux, you think trading away what may be the best player we have drafted in the 2000s is not a "bad" example of talent management? Really? As for Williams, you really think Danny Markov was a good return? Sheesh. I thought that these two were low-hanging fruit.

So, with all of the general agreement on this board about the lack of elite superstars to play with Giroux, you think trading away what may be the best player we have drafted in the 2000s is not a "bad" example of talent management? Really? As for Williams, you really think Danny Markov was a good return? Sheesh. I thought that these two were low-hanging fruit.
- iamscore2day

Are you talking about Giroux?

yes I think Markov was a good return. No doubt about it. He play showed that.

Anyone keeping tabs on how many times Bill wrote "Carter Hart/Martin Jones deserved a better fate?"

What has the GM ever accomplished in his NHL management career?

Any coach that has Zac Macewen out in the last 60 seconds of a game loses my faith.

The players are the problem also, never said otherwise.

Players, GM, and coaches all need to go.
- hello it's me 2050

I agree with all of this. Putting MacEwen on the ice at that time sends such mixed messages to the team. All of the players know what his strengths and weaknesses are. If you need a goal in the last minute, that is not really what he is on the roster for. If you want to reward his energy, there has to be a better way for the team as a whoie. I am not sure many AHL teams would have put MacEwen out there in that situation. Little wonder that the players seem tuned out as the coach and organization's decisions send bigger messages than their words.